> From: Mattis Lind
> Thanks Noel for sorting this out.
Eh, de nada. But thank you.
>> I wonder if the ucode in the two versions is identical? The uROM chip
>> numbers should give it, (if they are the same on both versions, albeit
>> in different locations on the board), but I have yet to check. Does
>> anyone happen to know?
OK, so the situation here is pretty complicated. To start with / make things
worse, that CPU uses lots of PROMs. Lots and lots and lots and lots of PROMs.
For the data paths board (M7260), both major versions appear to contain the
same PROMs (going by the DEC part numbers), but the chip location (Exx)
numbers are all different.
For the control board (M7261), the C, E ('early' version) and F ('late'
version) etch revisions each contain mostly the same PROMs, but apparently
with slight differences between the sets of PROMs in each (as reflected in
different DEC part numbers). For details see:
to which I have just added all the gory details.
As to getting the contents of all of them dumped in machine-readable form -
>> on the earlier version (prints for that version are in the GT40 prints
It turns out that I have hard-copy prints for the "C" etch revision of the
M7261, which do not yet appear to be online; the GT40 prints have the "E"
I will scan the pages for that revision of the board, and put them up 'soon'.
(I'm not doing the whole print set, it's about 1" thick, and most of them are
for other things anyway, like MM11-L memory, etc.)
> From: Toby Thain
> To get closer I'd need better images of the panels.
Hi, I borrowed a DEC inlay from someone (a KA10 CPU bay) and scanned a chunk
of it (as much as I could fit into my A4 scanner :-) at 200 dpi:
I have a TC08 inlay, but it's currently being used in my QSIC display (until
we can get the RKV11-F/RPV11-D inlay done :-), and I didn't want to yank it
out. As far as I can tell, it's the same font on the two of them.
> the closest I know of off the top of my head is Akzidenz Grotesk.
The Akzidenz Grotesk Medium is indeed very, very close (other than the zero).
Do you happen to know if that font available for use in non-commercial
Since a few days, my EXORciser Development System is finally able to boot from floppy diskettes.
Previous attempts have shown that the Motorola EXORciser M68SFDC1 floppy disk board used has a special modified ROM version. This was probably written for an 8-inch drive, in which the Write protect and Direction signal were inverted.
For the sake of simplicity, I have used free inverter on the board to invert the signals accordingly.
After adjusting the PLL frequency, reads and writes from the card are now error-free. And all without FDC, only clever programming by Motorola software engineers in the early 76?
Originally, the EXORdisk system was a dual drive with two 8 "units. This I have replaced with a double drive of two 5.25 inch units. An Epson and a TEAC, which can be jumpered to 360 rpm. Luckily, 2HD floppy disks are easy to R&W.
I also got a GOTEK floppy emulator running, which I can boot from. Thanks to Roland Huisman, Bitsaver has some interesting floppy disks that convert to HFE format work perfectly. This format makes the Gotek drive most reliable.
Now to my question. The vintage computer forum at http://www.vcfed.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-44638.html mentioned some interesting manuals. Archive.org has some manuals, Bitsaver does not have manuals about the M6800 development system.
If someone already owns scanned manuals to the following list
M6800 Basic Interpreter Reference Manual
M6800 Macro Assembler reference Manual
M68SFDU Exordisk 11/111 Disk `Drive Unit Maintenance Manual
M6800 Exorciser 11 User's Guide
M6800 Exorciser User's Guide
MEX68PP1 PROM Programmer Module Supplement M6800 Exorciser User's Guide
I would welcome any feedback or questions
The famous Brigham Young University 3D graphics program, by Dr. Hank Christensen.
I am looking for the fortran source, it should be 7 files:
Any docs related too.
Thanks for letting me beg.
I'm trying to find a way to get my DEC Rainbow's monochrome output onto a
newer monitor than my aging VR201 (especially since I zapped something in
it and my diagnostic efforts to date haven't fixed it).
So, I found the bit in the Rainbow docs that said the output was DC Coupled
RS-170 signals and to convert to RS-170 (NTSC black and white) I needed to
put a 10uF cap inline to make it RS-170. So I did this, and fed it into a
generic NTSC composite video to VGA thing, and got only a little joy. The
first few lines seem to be missing, then the next few are OK and then
I tried to google this, but found nothing. My google foo has failed me.
Does anybody else have a working setup?
Hi all --
I picked this DPS-6 up over the summer and it's just taking up space
(quite a bit of space) in the corner of my basement. This is a custom
16-bit, bitsliced, microcoded CPU from the early 80s with (I believe)
8mb of memory, and ethernet. It would originally have run a version of
GCOS. It's about the size of a large-ish minifridge, but a bit deeper.
It's also quite heavy!
It's a neat machine, but it's very obscure and unfortunately incomplete
(it is missing both mass storage and storage controllers). Otherwise,
it is complete and in good condition (albeit a bit dirty). So you can
see why you'd really want to have it in your collection .
If anyone's up for a project, drop me a line. Local pick up in Seattle, WA.
This is listed under the informative title "vintage computer":
which leads me to post it here under a more informative title, hoping that
someone here has a soft spot for Primes!
I recently acquired a NIB 9-track for use in my (someday to be operational) PDP-11/23+ or PDP-11/73 (I've lost track of the details). I got it on ebay for $150 but the shipping from CA to NY was not insubstantial :). The ebay ad showed a well-used unit but when it arrived it was clearly new in box! Nice when that happens :) Some pix:
It is VERY heavy! Took me and my 17 year old (and a lot of sweat and swearing) to get it up to the attic where my burgeoning little vintage computing lab is shaping up.
I should mention, I'd like this tape drive to be able to work in either the various DEC OS's available (RT-11/RSX/others?) and also Unix/BSD which I plan (hope) to get up and running.
Now for some questions.
1. I've been told the QT13 is a very good card to interface here. I've been looking for a while on ebay without luck. I do see a QT14 on ebay right now at a good price, but I am not familiar with the "S" card business and what that means for use in a PDP-11 backplane.
2. Anyone have a QT13 for sale? Or based on my dec and unix interests, is there a better/recommended card?
3. Anyone have the 50 pin cables/connectors available? If not I feel confident I could make these up. But I thought I'd ask in case someone has a set getting in their way
4. Anyone ever make a pertec to USB project? Might be interesting to get access to old tapes on more modern computers?
73 Eugene W2HX
One of my few remaining Holy Grail items, I got a Hayes Transet 1000
this week. My three-part Hayes stack is now complete.
I've scanned the manual and quick-ref card. The scan is not up to the
quality of my usual work, as I tried a new technique using a DSLR
instead of a scanner so I wouldn't have to take the manual apart. The
results are good enough to read, but that's about it. I'll re-do it
again someday with the proper tools. Here's the link:
I have two manuals for the config software (alas only the Mac version
of the software itself), which I'll try to do soon. I'll image the
Mac disk as well. If anyone has the PC version of the software, I'd
love it have it.