I don?t recall if I had any 3880 documents. I will ask how they would like to handle this type of request. There are many duplicates and they will need time to catalog the documents.
> the AMP coring tool ... doesn't screw in though ... I don't know if this
> is consistent with the original 3 mbit Ethernet, as I've never worked
> with that.
I was speaking of the gear used on the 3 Mbit. I don't recall the 10 Mbit
stuff at all.... I have this vague memory that the 3 Mbit cutter also had a
shoulder stop that prevented one going too deep.
Noel
Hi folks,
I know there's not much 6800 activity here, but I figure this would be worth a try.
Has anyone here ever seen or ever had fig-FORTH for the 6800 working?
I have a SWTPC replica system from Bob Applegate / Corsham Technologies, and I love it. It came with a complete 64K RAM, as well as the SWIBUG monitor, and the monitor code has been extended by Bob/Corsham to interface with an SD Card sub-system for floppy disk emulation. This provides the original terminal access to the machine with the simple system monitor, and also the FLEX OS for running programs. It is a blast to use.
Recently, I took a look around and found the fig-FORTH listing as originally published back in 1979, and also a Source Forge site that holds an electronic copy:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/asm...th_6800-stuff/ <https://sourceforge.net/projects/asm68c/files/fig-forth_6800-stuff/>
I've managed to get the source code to assemble with a cross-assembler supplied by Bob/Corsham. It does not produce an exact copy of the original code, because the code uses the JMP instruction pretty much exclusively, and the assembler substitutes a relative BRA instruction sometimes. So my code ends up being several bytes shorter because of saving one byte each time a JMP is replaced by a BRA. That said, it appears to me that the code matches up with the original listing otherwise.
So my problem is this: When I run the code on my system, fig-FORTH seems to sign on, and will accept input from the keyboard (double echos of each key typed) but it then does not proceed to interpret the command entered. The interesting thing I see by winding my way around in the code is that it has already properly performed a bunch of setup and produces the initial "Forth-68" sign on, and that has required it to already be using many of the Forth commands that were defined by machine language. This indicates to me that some of the command interpretation is working. The I/O from/to the terminal is by calls to the system monitor I/O routines, and that seems to be also working, despite the double echos of the typed characters. It just does not proceed to interpret what is typed in at all.
Of course, I have no idea if this code ever worked properly, or if I am encountering early buggy code. So I'm looking to see if anyone else has ever seen the fig-FORTH working on a 6800 system? Any pointers to good working code?
Thanks for listening!
smp
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Stephen Pereira
Bedford, NH 03110
KB1SXE
hi
I have for sale, qty=1, SGI Silicon Graphics Phobos G160 for Indigo2 Impact
brand new, still closed in the box, unopened!
located in Italy (in my parent's house)
I will be happy to give it a new home
Folks,
Well I seem to be running around in circles. As it takes most of a weekend
to back up the P390 because of various things, I decided there must be a
quicker way. And there is!
1. Set up SD card in SCSI2SD as a single disk physical rather than
split to match the config on the RAID array. I still have the same number of
partitions but they are all on one LUN.
2. SD card can now all be seen by windows but as most partitions a HPFS
I can't mount them but I can use MS's DISK2VHD to image the card.
3. Install OS/2 in a VirtualBox and I can now mount the HPFS partitions
4. ZIP up drives and FTP to NAS box. Both are on same gigabit LAN so
its fast.
So I can now back up the server in a morning. Just need to script it and
test restore.
Dave.
From: Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com>
Sent: 26 May 2018 21:16
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390
Folks,
Well in case any one has the slightest bit of interest, I have now plugged
the RAID card back in and after replacing on of the drive carriers I can get
five of the six drives to spin up. Its now copying stuff to my Buffalo NAS
but as its 10Mbit LAN its not terribly fast. I think the NAS isn't very fast
either. It looks like zipping up the files and FTPing the ZIP files might be
the quickest way to go.
Dave
From: Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com <mailto:dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> >
Sent: 18 May 2018 22:31
To: 'Benjamin Huntsman' <BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu
<mailto:BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu> >; 'General Discussion: On-Topic
and Off-Topic Posts' <cctalk at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> >
Subject: RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390
I thought I had captioned that picture. It's the original RAID controller
which I am not using. If I plug it in it starts the disks in the RAID array
which takes ages, and steals the hard disk BIOS vector which I need for the
SCSI card that's running the system.
I didn't want to remove it fully as I need to label the cables feeding it.
One feeds the top drive bays, and the other the bottom so if I ever need to
put it back it I need to know which is which.
If I get some free time I will have a go at starting the disks in it and
repairing the RAID array, and perhaps copy the disks that are installed.
Dave
From: Benjamin Huntsman <BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu
<mailto:BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu> >
Sent: 18 May 2018 21:49
To: Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com <mailto:dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> >; General
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org
<mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> >
Subject: Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390
I gotta ask, what's the deal with the dangling card? That cracked me up!
Thanks for posting some pics!
_____
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<mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> > on behalf of Dave Wade via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> >
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 1:46 PM
To: 'Guy Sotomayor Jr'; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guy Sotomayor Jr <ggs at shiresoft.com <mailto:ggs at shiresoft.com> >
> Sent: 15 May 2018 21:39
> To: Dave Wade <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com <mailto:dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> >;
General Discussion: On-Topic
> and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>
> Subject: Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Dave Wade via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org
<mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> >
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > That's, in effect, what I did. Whilst there were Microchannel IDE
Controllers
> I have never seen one. There are no IDE interfaces on the "Planar" so
every
> thing must be on the MCA bus.
> > So I bought a BusLogic BT646 SCSI card on E-Bay. I also bought an
Adaptec
> card as a spare. I think I struck lucky with the BT646. It is a simple
SCSI/2 card,
> no raid but it does have a BIOS with support for two bootable drives and a
> >4GB drive option.
> > OS/2 has drivers for it so it works out of the box. The OS/2 boot disks
find
> the drive and install the proper drivers.
> > To compensate for the slower "narrow" drives I bought a SCSI2SD card
that
> puts an SD card on the bus. OS/2 just sees it as a up two four drives
> depending on how I configure it. At present I have two 4gb drives. The
card
> in it is 32gb so I can add 2 x 12gb drives or 1 x 24gb or some other mix.
The CD
> ROM sites on the same bus. I haven't tried the tape drive yet..
> >
>
Well I found an XGA2 card in the pile of bits so now I have 1024x768 display
resolution. I have swapped the CDROM for a SCSI DVD drive.
I managed to boot MTS and there are a few pics here:-
https://flic.kr/s/aHsmc1pkB1
<https://flic.kr/s/aHsmc1pkB1>
<https://flic.kr/s/aHsmc1pkB1> P390
flic.kr
Explore this photo album by Dave G4UGM on Flickr!
next job is to tidy up and re-assemble the case..
Dave
> Some time ago I acquired a PCI P/390 card (along with the various LIC
files). I
> went down the same path as you to build a P/390 system with OS/2 but I
> kept running into problems with OS/2 versions and supported hardware.
>
> I finally gave up and acquired a PCI based RS/6000 that I'll install AIX
on and
> have an R/390. ;-) I haven't had the time yet to make any progress on
it.
>
> But it's good to know that you've managed to do this if I decide to go
back
> and attempt the PC route again.
>
> TTFN - Guy
With the demise of Weirdstuff, I decided to visit Outback Equipment in
Gilroy this week. Jim Schuetz, formerly a partner at Weirdstuff is now
the Business Development Manager at Outback.
While there, I looked over the following DEC gear (includes several
non-DEC QBus cards that I'm not listing - as I have no idea what they
are). Here's the DEC gear available:
PDP 11/23 Plus (BC)
PDP 11/73A (BC)
PDP 11/23 Plus (BE) marked "Bad"
(3) QBus Zip Drive controllers
(1) M8043 DLVJ1-M (formerly DLV11-J)
(2) M8190 (AB) KDJ11
(1) M9081 (LF?)
(1) M7551 (AH?) MSV11-QA
(1) M8029 RXV21
There's more "stuff" that you can see from the pictures below. All the
PDP-11 "boxes" and boards look to be good cosmetically.
Photos here:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMAvVBdhz20-z7l6W9JXhBB0k3ggw0HWveHctE…
Jim would like to sell the above as a lot.
His contact info is:
jim at outbackequipment.com
Phone: 408-886-3733
Cheers,
Lyle
--
73 AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
Anyone live near this Hotel?? I am just getting home and am just now
seeing this.? Evidently, this is a rescue attempt, but I don't have a
bunch of detail as yet.
Jim
Hi Jim
I sent the below email to Peter yesterday. Have not heard from him.
It would be a pity if neither of you can arrange to get hold of this
stuff. Can you maybe provide backup if Peter can't make it?
W
Hi Peter
TRS-80 bits will be at the Watson Hotel. 440 57th Str. Hell's
Kitchen, NY 10019.
Fellow is called Marius Killian and he's there today and tomorrow
(24th and 25th). Sorry about short notice but I only came home last night.
Please make plan to pick up, or for hotel to hold for you. Let me know.
W
(x11 terminal) C3253A HP Envizex P-Series
Up for sale is a X-Terminal made by Hewlett Packard in 1995.
Tested, in perfect working conditions!!!
cpu: i960 @ 33Mhz (it's the fastest available on Envizex v1)
ram: 48MB (builtin + 16+16+8, the first two sims need to be equal)
rom: none (sorry, It doesn't have any font-rom, it loads fonts from tftp/NFS)
vram: 2MB
lan: 10Mbps BASET RJ45 (it also comes with an AUI port on the back)
kb/mouse: common PS/2 (F12 is a special key, but Envizex works on
common keyboards, HIL keyboards are also supported)
Media: floppy 3.5",1.44MB
Software included!
It comes with all the documentation, configuration-scripts, and
startup for Linux (sorry, I don't have HPUXv10.20/v11, I can't
test/adapt scrips).
The machine is perfectly working, it supports the X Display Manager
Control Protocol (XDMCP), you just need to power on your hardwired
terminal and be greeted with a login prompt. This purpose is easy to
be accomplished on HP terminals, especially if you use NFS instead of
tftpboot.
HP-net-stations can boot using either Network File System or Trivial
FTP, with NFS being the preferred method it's simpler.
During the final phase of startup, the bootup screen disappears and
the X station loads bin/modules.ld, which tells what can be optionally
loaded (but not executed), and then starts the X session by executing
the application that was specified by the user on config/autoexec.cfg
It supports all of the following:
XDM login
VUE
CDE Lite (its panel appears similar to the one you can see on HPUX)
mwm (simple windows manager)
twm (simple windows manager)
If you see one of first three login screens in the above list, you
just need to enter your login account and password.
80 euro + s/h
located in Switzerland
