> From: Bill Gunshannon
> Surely there were Mailing Lists prior to the existence of the Internet,
> yes?
Absolutely. They started on the ARPANet, fairly early on.
E.g. SF-Lovers (one of the first 'non-mission related' mailing lists) started
in September, 1979, and MsgGroup (an 'official-busines-related' one)
considerably earlier, in June 1975. Header-People started at about the same
time, but alas, we have lost the first two volumes of the archives, so I don't
know exactly when.
I maintain archives of these lists on my page:
http://mercury.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/archives.html
if anyone wants a look. The variety of header formats is kind of amusing.
> Do any Lists that started on UUCP still exist today?
Perhaps. Do you count newgroups? (Of course, UUCP considerably post-date
the ARPANet.)
Noel
"Shoppa, Tim"<tshoppa at wmata.com> wrote:
> The bitsavers archive is 267 Gbytes.
And growing. I just sent Al a CD with 450 MB of scans of
old obscure IBM manuals from the late 1960s and early 1970s.
One example:
225-3360-1 2030 Processing Unit Field Engineering Theory of Operation
(It describes all the internal operations of the S/360 Model 30.)
So far I have sent him 15 CDs of manual and print set scans,
many of which have not yet appeared online. This is probably
because he lacks time and resources to do the necessary post
processing of them.
If there is any interest, I can post (or send) a list of the
manuals.
The next batch will be from SEL, GE, Tymshare, and a few other
miscellaneous companies. After that, it will be all DEC.
If anyone else is scanning DEC manuals, please contact me so
we can coordinate our efforts and avoid duplication.
Alan Frisbie
jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) wrote:
> One DEC book I really crave, but _cannot_ find, is the "PDP-11 Systems
> Handbook" ("Featuring: MicroPDP-11/83 MicroPDP-11/73 MicroPDP-11/53
> PDP-11/84"). If anyone has an extra copy of this they're willing to part
> with, please let me know,
I have an extra copy I would be happy to send to you.
Just send me your mailing address.
Alan Frisbie
If this link works for you, this is to an auction someone has for a
bunch of IMS and other
S100 cards.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBS-Slavenet-P-N-710525-128B-Rev-D-1984-S-100-CPU-C…
I linked off something called IBS Slavenet, but it also has a number of
IMS boards
IMS-Z-80B-Master-Slave-Board-A1270-Rev-F-1984-S-100-CPU-Card-Board-66-/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/192142950358
I used to buy the IMS 16K static boards as they were golden back when I
ran S100, and had
one of their Z80 boards, but stuck with mostly Tarbell and 8080 for my
time with S100 and
never graduated to this sort of system.
Might interest those still doing S-100
thanks
Jim
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> On Apr 21, 2017, at 1:26 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
> It makes me wonder, what is the oldest still running mailinglist?
I don't have access to my _old_ email (i.e. from the 80's) to confirm this,
and I don't think they still have copies of the very oldest mail, but the
IETF list has got to be pretty old (first meeting was early '86, but they may
not have had a mailing list for a while, yet).
Risks started in the summer of '85, so that one's older.
Noel
Hi, all, continuing the process of getting rid of duplicate DEC documentation:
I have an extra copy of the the UNIBUS Interface Manual, Second Edition
(DEC-11-HIAB-D); I'm interested in trading it for any interesting PDP-11
documentation or stuff you'd like to part with which I don't have.
One DEC book I really crave, but _cannot_ find, is the "PDP-11 Systems
Handbook" ("Featuring: MicroPDP-11/83 MicroPDP-11/73 MicroPDP-11/53
PDP-11/84"). If anyone has an extra copy of this they're willing to part
with, please let me know, I have a lot of odds and ends I can trade (or
plain $$$ if that works).
Noel
Tape backup lto would do it easily, at this point probably incremental backups to an external drive would be a cheap alternative too.
On 4/20/2017 12:15 PM, Jay West wrote:
> Ben wrote...
> ----
> Just how big is the server?
> ----
> Bitsavers that is publicly visible is around 275gb?
How does one back up a system like that?
(That could be the shortage of of oiled paper tape).
Ben.
Hi,
for those who wonder why our mirror at
bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
is outdated:
The reason is that the main rsync server is down/unavailable since March,
11. I've already contacted Al several days ago but haven't got any
response yet.
Christian
Research info needed.In early days-(60's) there was an effort to develop
Blind/Deaf Blind Amateur Radio RTTY and computer output utilizing assistive
technology with braille output. There were also efforts for computer output
devices also.
Please respond OFFLIST so we do not clog the reflector.
We are seeking more information,materials, and stories (This is a history
project for SMECC Communications and Computation Museum)
Note I have checked google and other things ALREADY! - I
HAVE NOT checked some of the online but restricted access
database of publications that may bot be indexed in google so if
something looks really great drop it to us.
We are primarily looking for material and stories from
the 60's and 70s - But before ok! (If there was any?)
and after... yes if during the early development phases
We have the following questions:
- Aside from Ray Morrison, who else was working on this?
- Anyone here work with Ray on this or have photos of gear and paperwork?
- Although we have some of Ray Morrison's articles, we are looking for
other letters, documents hardware, memories of use etc.
- ` Are there any Blind / Deaf Blind RTTY or computer users here today
that participated in this effort?
- Are there any Blind/Deaf Blind CURRENT participants Amateur Radio
RTTY or other digital modes with assistive technology producing braille
output??
- Anyone use Lee Brody's Deaf Blind Communication terminal hand have a
recounting of it or still have an example of the hardware?
- Looking for Computer output devices and information, photos, stories
etc, by any developer or user from the 60's and 70s primarily but later
material will go into the archives on this subject as well. Nowadays there are
plenty of things, but way back then... not so much!
- Feel free to send me anything you think I should know related to the
above topics that I may not have hinted on, but you think I need.
Thanks in Advance -
Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org/)
E-mail direct at couryhouse at aol.com also please cc info at smecc.org
Snail mail to:
COURYHOUSE/SMECC
Attn. Ed Sharpe - Archivist
5802 W. Palmaire Ave
Glendale AZ 85301 USA