test-drb January 2017

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Re: What is the most amount of money you've spent on a computer or computer-related item?

by vintagecomputer＠bettercomputing.net

I rarely go above $1000.. I spent $1500 for my Mark-8 boards. ?And I considered that a bargain considering what they were.

7 years, 7 months

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

by vintagecomputer＠bettercomputing.net

-------- Original message -------- From: Rick Bensene <rickb at bensene.com> Date: 2017-01-12 11:49 AM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you   own? A selection of some of my more unusual computer-related stuff: - A Tektronix 4132 Unix workstation? using a National 32016 CPU and a 4.2bsd port called UTek - A Digital Equipment PDP 8/e system with 2 RK05 drives, high speed paper tape reader/punch, RX01 Dual 8" floppy drives, 16K of DEC core memory(commonly runs with a 32K NVRAM board), 2 serial ports, EAE, RTC, Memory Extension/Timeshare board, Diode boot board (RK05 boot) - Wang 300-series calculator field service parts kit (two wooden briefcases) - Friden 6010 Computyper Diagnostic Console - Friden Electronics Training Course manuals (1960s) - Wyle Laboratories WS-02 punched card programmable electronic calculator (1964) - Busicom 207 punched card programmable electronic calculator - Altair 8800 with Altair dual 8" disk drives - IMSAI 8080 kit built in high school as a school project in 1976/1977 - Televideo Personal Terminal - GE transistorised current loop acoustic coupler modem (110 baud) - Hewlett Packard 9100A and 9100B programmable electronic calculators - Tektronix mini-Board Bucket computer and many boards for it (EPROM Blaster, TI TMS9918-Based Video Board w/RTC, SASI Interface, 6809 CPU, 6809 ICE CPU. 32K Static and 64K Dynamic RAM Boards, 300-Baud Modem Board, 5 1/4" Floppy Controller - SWTPC TV Typewriter - A large format (4'x5') Summagraphics digitizing tablet with GPIB interface - A Tektronix 4052 desktop computer (bit-slice implementation of Motorola 6800 CPU) with very rare RAM Disk module installed under keyboard - Wang Laboratories dual-cassette drive for 700 series calculator - An old fluorescent-lighted, two sided sign advertising Denon electronic calculators - Some original Digital Equipment System Modules (Used by DEC for making some of their early computers) --- Rick Bensene >The Old Calculator Museum >http://oldcalculatormuseum.com Nice! ?Rick is your TV Typewriter the Don Lancaster design or the CT1024?

7 years, 7 months

What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

EAI also made drum memories too I believe... ANYTHING EAI is cool! Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 1/12/2017 2:26:08 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at snarc.net writes: > Given the topic, I have this rather *unique* punch card reader, if you want > to call it that. It is marked EAI but that's where the trail turns cold. EAI is Electronic Associates Inc. based here on the NJ shore. They made analog computers.

7 years, 7 months

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

by barythrin＠gmail.com

https://www.flickr.com/photos/85127208 at N05/7799377360/in/photostream Not sure if this URL will share properly but this is one item I'd love to hear if anyone knows about. Definitely one of my most unusual prices however I bought it from a fellow collector and he got it from a friend's pawn shop find so not much on the true origin other than speculation. I haven't had time to fix it, but even the molecular connectors for the power are a but unusual. I brought it to our VCF South/Southwest a few times for showing early Portable computers.

7 years, 7 months

LCM+L [was RE: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?]

by RichA＠livingcomputers.org

From: Lyle Bickley Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 8:30 PM > On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:34:51 -0800 > Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote: >> On 1/11/17 4:45 PM, Brad H wrote: >>> I wasn't even aware of the LCM until this thread I'm hurt. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) >> You mean "Living Computer: Museum + Labs" ? >> http://www.livingcomputers.org/ >> They just changed their name. > Thanks - didn't know that... > Good for them!!! Their website has really improved as well. Thanks, Lyle! I've passed that comment on to the head of the internal team that spearheaded the improvements as we worked on the rebranding, because she knows who everyone involved was and I don't. (The previous sites, both LCM and PDPplanet, were done by an expert team--they really are good--who were external and also not answerable to us.) This was part of expanding from a single floor of our three-story building onto the 1st (ground) floor, where we have educational labs, exhibits on modern developments from the vintage machines on the 2nd, a real gift shop and book store, and a small cantina. Rich Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer Living Computers: Museum + Labs 2245 1st Avenue S Seattle, WA 98134 mailto:RichA at LivingComputers.org http://www.LivingComputers.org/

7 years, 7 months

KA-10 desirability [was RE: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?]

by RichA＠livingcomputers.org

From: Lars Brinkhoff Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 10:53 PM > Rich Alderson wrote: >> Eric's got a KL. If he had a KA, I would have tracked him down and >> beaten him to a pulp to lay hands on it--and we're friends. > This is the third time in a few weeks that I've seen people eagerly > looking for a KA10. The founder of LCM+L is Paul Allen. A KA-10 based PDP-10 is the Holy Grail, since it's the kind of system on which he and his friends (not just Bill Gates, but four others from the same school) all learned serious programming. (They started, of course, with Dartmouth BASIC on a dialup >from GE Information Systems.) > Is someone pulling strings behind the scenes? CIA wants an upgrade for > their PDP-3? NSA, whose existence itself was classified Top Secret at the time of the PDP-3 build. Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:00 PM > Eric Smith wrote: >> The only part of a KA that I have is the main console switch and light >> panel. The leadperson for the film Swordfish wanted to rent it from me, >> but we weren't able to reach an agreement. I have yet to see the film. > I think there's only about ten seconds worth of PDP-10 goodness. Some of the funniest dialog written, though. "Cal Tech", forsooth! :-) > For a greater boost, check out the "Arpanet" episode of The Americans. Hmm. I'll have to look for that. Rich Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer Living Computers: Museum + Labs 2245 1st Avenue S Seattle, WA 98134 mailto:RichA at LivingComputers.org http://www.LivingComputers.org/

7 years, 7 months

Sol Terminal Color Photo, and PROMs

by vintagecomputer＠bettercomputing.net

-------- Original message -------- From: Corey Cohen <AppleCorey at optonline.net> Date: 2017-01-12 3:25 AM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" <cctech at classiccmp.org> Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Sol Terminal Color Photo, and PROMs The keyboard looks like a variant of the keyboard on display at the Victoria and Albert Museum in London right now attached to the Apple-1.?? It was a giant pain to get it working correctly.? I didn't have good schematics so had to create a ton of notes and pseudo schematics using a ohm meter, scope and logic analyzer.? It was very satisfying to get it working :-) The V&A keyboard is KTC-065-01466. There is a story on the sol-20 prototype proms, if I recall correctly, in the book "Fire in the valley".??? Cheers, Corey corey cohen u??o? ???o? > On Jan 12, 2017, at 12:50 AM, Brad H <vintagecomputer at bettercomputing.net> wrote: > > Hey guys, > > > > Does anyone know if any color photos exist of the Sol 'Intelligent Terminal' > that appeared on the cover of Popular Electronics, July 1976?? I just > discovered that that Keytronics keyboard I bought on ebay (the one parted > out from a mystery 8080 terminal of some sort) is the same one they used for > the PE cover unit.? I found the artwork tonight on sol20.org for the > original PCB.? If I could find a color photo it'd at least be possible to > build a replica of that unit someday. > > > > I was curious too if anyone knew the story behind the four optional PROM ICs > that could be installed on the board.? The article only says 'Optional, > write in for details'.? Can't find any more info than that anywhere.? I > understand Processor Technology sort of dodged around PE's reluctance to > publish any more computer articles, and I'm wondering if the terminal could > be turned into a full blown computer with the aid of those PROMs. > > > > To refresh - this is the keyboard I bought. > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4pq0-BHd2x6eHNhTWVGZkhxRFk/view?usp=sharin > g > > > > Definitely seems to be the same one - just different colors and legends on > the keys themselves. > > > > Brad > Thanks Corey! >From what I've read around about this terminal.. PE didn't want to do any more articles on computers so Processor Tech sort of stripped down what was to become their Terminal Computer, calling it just a terminal for the article, although apparently the motherboard design changed to what's in the Sol 20. ?I'll look for that book. ?It's interesting that this first terminal isn't better documented. ?Or that PE didn't take one color photo of the first unit. Was the output on the keyboard you worked on ASCII at least?

7 years, 7 months

Were C64's used in editing video like the Amigas - also need Amiga keyboa...

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

We will dig around for come images...ok if you have any links to good large scans let us know thx.... Ed# In a message dated 1/12/2017 8:35:35 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, sbolton at bfree.on.ca writes: > Syd! thanks,,.. is the Toaster Flyer a board inside the Amiga? it > may be > there... > > Did you save any promotional material etc? Thins like that look > good in > a display with the gear. > > We also need to scrounge a keyboard and a mouse It was a card inside, yes.....but you didn't typically have a Toaster & and Flyer in the same machine---you had one of each. I have lots of material still from the day and there is of course good examples of it online. Keyboard & mouse are tougher....we have them at the museum, but not really any extras. It is one of the most common requests I get from people - there are adapters to use PC keyboards (and mice) on the Amiga but of course that's not authentic :) eBay may be the only route for getting that - at least if you need to do so quickly. Also you can try http://www.jppbm.com/ - he carries a lot of hard to find Commodore stuff. http://www.pcmuseum.ca

7 years, 7 months

DEC LCG cable...BC10K?

by useddec＠gmail.com

I found what I remember to be a DEC10 memory cable . It looks like a BC10K in the 1980 cables handbook. It looks to be a 5 footer or so. Any interest? Please contact me off list. Thanks, Paul

7 years, 7 months

Were C64's used in editing video like the Amigas - also need Amiga keyboa...

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Syd! thanks,,.. is the Toaster Flyer a board inside the Amiga? it may be there... Did you save any promotional material etc? Thins like that look good in a display with the gear. We also need to scrounge a keyboard and a mouse . thanks Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 1/11/2017 7:38:46 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, sbolton at bfree.on.ca writes: No, C64's were too limited (8-bit) to do anything video related. However, video production was actually possible with the Amiga 1000 as you could get the Amiga 1300 Genlock, and the Amiga itself always natively produced composite video ....real true non-linear editing with the computer itself however was really only done with the Toaster Flyer unit (the Video Toaster itself just produced video effects/titling and came bundled with LightWave 3D). I used to be a Commodore dealer, and the NewTek (Video Toaster) distributor in Canada, so if you need any info hit me up! Syd Bolton Personal Computer Museum http://www.pcmuseum.ca On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:14:19 -0500, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote: > Were C64's used in editing video like the Amigas - also need Amiga > keyboard? > > Were Commodore 64's used in editing video like the Amigas were to > any > extent? > > Looking to figure if there is an overlap area in yet another > area of > our displays we can do between computing and video production. > > We have a Amiga, 2000 desk top type, with a video toaster in it that > needs a keyboard and factory mouse! > Can anyone help? > Thanks Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)

7 years, 7 months

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