Hello retro fans - we are approaching the one month point before the
Eleventh Vintage Computer Festival Midwest and plans are quickly
coming together. Here are a few announcements and updates to bring
you up to speed:
- We're happy to announce our very special guest speaker, former
Commodore engineer, Bil Herd! Bil will deliver an entertaining
90-minute talk and Q&A on his time at Commodore and his many
post-Commodore adventures in engineering that continue today.
- We are going to be packed FULL! And that means full of great
exhibits, including the ones listed here: http://vcfmw.org/ex.html.
The main hall's tables are all accounted for but there will be some
unassigned space in one of the side rooms for late-comers and
impromptu displays.
- VCFMW Auction - an experiment last year, now a feature! Quality
entertainment and a fundraiser for the show, 4pm Saturday will see
another auction of donated items at low starting bids. If you have
items you wish to donate for auction, please get in touch with show
organizers Friday night or early Saturday. Auctions items need not be
classic computing related. No registration is required for the
auction.
- The Free Pile tradition continues! One corner of the "Grove" side
room (http://vcfmw.org/HIEGV_FloorplanDetail.jpg) will be dedicated to
the infamous Free Pile - leave your junk there but be prepared to take
it home if it's still there Sunday afternoon! No printers, please!
- Hotel rooms are still available at the $84/night convention rate;
please follow the link at http://vcfmw.org or use the code "VCF" when
calling the hotel; if you are unable to obtain the con rate, please
let me know as I may have to ask the hotel to expand the reservation
block.
- We remind you that VCF Midwest is a community-funded show; we
receive no funding from any other organization. If you appreciate
what we do and you are able, please visit the donation links on our
site at http://vcfmw.org.
Please feel free to help us get the word out and re-post this message
in your favorite vintage-related forum. Thank you for your interest
and support and we'll see you in September!
-j
I think for me what gets confusing is where the various pins are. ?I have to read and re-resd pinouts to figure out where stuff should be. ?I sometimes have a brain fart and get it backwards. ?Yesterday part of my problem with my Tektronix box was having the numbering of pins on the terminal's DB25 backwards. ?Once I had that figured out it was just a matter of looping certain pins and we were good. ?It just adds an extra layer of fiddling.
I have a question though.. there have been a few times where I thought the 6800 crashed but may not have. ?In several cases.. I sent a large loader file across and noticed errors coming through.. so I'd stop the machine. ?This was after teraterm said it had sent everything through. ?Is it possible the serial port on my PC is still trying to send out garbage for a while, messing up my connection to the 6800 until it finishes? ?I kept moving cards around but eventually it seemed to start working after so many powerups and time had passed..
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From: Brent Hilpert <hilpert at cs.ubc.ca>
Date: 2016-08-09 9:49 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: SWTPC 6800
On 2016-Aug-09, at 6:47 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
>> On 08/05/2016 02:15 PM, Brad H wrote:
>>> I have one more question for you guys -- I have a few CT-1024
>>> terminals and would really like this system to work with one of
>>> those.? However, all of the CTs are quite delicate and are set I
>>> think for 7, E, 2 @ 110 baud via soldered jumpers.
>>
>> Well, 110 bps is a bit on the slow side--great for teletypes, not so
>> much for video terminals.
>
> And I am not aware of any USB serial adapters that do 110 bps.? If
> anyone knows of any, post brand and model numbers.
It didn't do 110, but I chanced across one USB/serial adapter that goes down to 75 bps.
which fortuitously was just what I needed at the time for the model 28 teletype (with the appropriate gears) I was attempting to drive.
The 75 wasn't readily accessible, I had to go to a low level in the unix config code and try sequential factors in the
configuration for the rate, 75 being another factor of 2 down in the standard rate series 19,200 . . 9600 . . 1200 . . 300 . . 150 . .
I was contacted about a CCS S-100 system available for pickup in
the Minneapolis area. Contact me privately. Includes CP/M software, etc.
A full station wagon full of stuff/docs. I don't know the guy, just trying
to help out.
http://www.vintagecomputer.net/contact.cfm
Bill
Thanks muchly. ?Interesting.. his 6800 has the all black front panel but has the db25 holes in the back.. mine doesn't have the db25s.
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From: william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com>
Date: 2016-08-08 6:30 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Video From VCF West
>
>
>
> Very cool stuff!? Thanks so much to everyone providing videos.
> I'm curious.. I had heard Michael Holley would be there with a bunch of
SWTPC stuff.. did that happen?
> Brad
>
>
http://www.vintagecomputer.net/VCFWest_2016/SWTPc_Exhibit.jpg
He is the guy on the right, at his exhibit.
B
Nice display - we have some processor frame and disc drive that we
got this spring at SMECC so I have been saving off the messages on SWTPC
during the last week or so.
About the only experience with this is I saw one John Harrington had that
ran the GE service shop.... so time to learn now! Ed#
Very cool stuff! Thanks so much to everyone providing videos.
> I'm curious.. I had heard Michael Holley would be there with a bunch of
SWTPC stuff.. did that happen?
> Brad
>
>
http://www.vintagecomputer.net/VCFWest_2016/SWTPc_Exhibit.jpg
He is the guy on the right, at his exhibit.
B
I know the content of this picture is probably way too new for this list,
but I figured people on here might appreciate it. I work at Pepboys and I
snapped this picture a few days ago. I love this person's reuse of
something they apparently don't have a use for anymore.
I'm sorry if this email offends anyone
http://i63.tinypic.com/28ahk06.jpg
Joe
Very cool stuff! ?Thanks so much to everyone providing videos.
I'm curious.. I had heard Michael Holley would be there with a bunch of SWTPC stuff.. did that happen?
Brad
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-------- Original message --------
From: Curious Marc <curiousmarc3 at gmail.com>
Date: 2016-08-08 11:50 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Video From VCF West
Here is my video with excerpts from the show:
https://youtu.be/2bbsgfanbE0
Marc
From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> on behalf of "jwsmail at jwsss.com" <jwsmail at jwsss.com>
Reply-To: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Date: Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 10:41 AM
To: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Video From VCF West
On 8/7/2016 7:36 AM, jim stephens wrote:
6 videos from saturday, youtube playlist
once more with the link
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5NK70kdq3-JGwb_8GXFN5SqDtbTKtLi7
Hello retro fans - we are approaching the one month point before the
Eleventh Vintage Computer Festival Midwest and plans are quickly
coming together. Here are a few announcements and updates to bring
you up to speed:
- We're happy to announce our very special guest speaker, former
Commodore engineer, Bil Herd! Bil will deliver an entertaining
90-minute talk and Q&A on his time at Commodore and his many
post-Commodore adventures in engineering that continue today.
- We are going to be packed FULL! And that means full of great
exhibits, including the ones listed here: http://vcfmw.org/ex.html.
The main hall's tables are all accounted for but there will be some
unassigned space in one of the side rooms for late-comers and
impromptu displays.
- VCFMW Auction - an experiment last year, now a feature! Quality
entertainment and a fundraiser for the show, 4pm Saturday will see
another auction of donated items at low starting bids. If you have
items you wish to donate for auction, please get in touch with show
organizers Friday night or early Saturday. Auctions items need not be
classic computing related. No registration is required for the
auction.
- The Free Pile tradition continues! One corner of the "Grove" side
room (http://vcfmw.org/HIEGV_FloorplanDetail.jpg) will be dedicated to
the infamous Free Pile - leave your junk there but be prepared to take
it home if it's still there Sunday afternoon! No printers, please!
- Hotel rooms are still available at the $84/night convention rate;
please follow the link at http://vcfmw.org or use the code "VCF" when
calling the hotel; if you are unable to obtain the con rate, please
let me know as I may have to ask the hotel to expand the reservation
block.
- We remind you that VCF Midwest is a community-funded show; we
receive no funding from any other organization. If you appreciate
what we do and you are able, please visit the donation links on our
site at http://vcfmw.org.
Please feel free to help us get the word out and re-post this message
in your favorite vintage-related forum. Thank you for your interest
and support and we'll see you in September!
-j
Valid use... ?when network cables ?loose the litthe anchor tab I get another of the never ending ?stack the old ones tie trees to stakes... hold crates together etc.. the uses are infinite... never recrimped a new connector on them.Somehow the stack refills....Ed#
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From: Richard Cini <rich.cini at verizon.net>
Date: 8/8/16 16:17 (GMT-07:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: OT: Creative reuse
I guess your customer switched to WiFi?
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> On Aug 8, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Joe Giliberti <starbase89 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know the content of this picture is probably way too new for this list,
> but I figured people on here might appreciate it. I work at Pepboys and I
> snapped this picture a few days ago. I love this person's reuse of
> something they apparently don't have a use for anymore.
>
> I'm sorry if this email offends anyone
>
> http://i63.tinypic.com/28ahk06.jpg
>
> Joe
the fact it is rebranded suggests an older product indeed.... with a
new name tag
so who owns this thing now!???
Ed#
In a message dated 8/8/2016 2:50:47 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
billdegnan at gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
> According to the Computers and Automation census, the first delivery of
the
> 440 T/S was Jul, 69. After the sale, it shows up in the census under
> Honeywell
> as the G440 T/S. It's a pretty rare machine. It dissappears in Mar '72
> with no
> known installations.
>
>
I did check the KeyData Computer Characteristics Review of 1969, but I did
not see it there. I have Vol 9 #2, not sure when exactly in 1969 or
thereabouts it was actually written or published.
I just now checked the Auerbach Computer Characteristics Digest of 4/1969
and I *did* find the GE 440 CPU there. $7,000 monthly rental, purchase
price of $311,000
In the same digest, the Honeywell model 440 is part of the H-400 system.
It's an expensive I/O thing not a CPU. At the time the Honeywell 440 was
their name for their "Optical Scanning Unit and Control" with the note:
Not available for new orders. $2530/mo and $121,440 to buy.
So, to find a Honeywell 440 nameplate prob means it was for something
produced after 1969, at least according to my sources.
Bill
