test-drb August 2016

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by cctalk＠ibm51xx.net

"should work fine u got rca and vga on that card might not be colour but it should work" Nope. Looks like a CGA card. It may also run in monochrome mode if you set the correct dip switches. The composite output can be used w a std TV set.

8 years, 4 months

can anyone identify this terminal keyboard and pcb?

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Well the frogs never were usable as a async ASCII terminal.. for some reason I think they were intended for IBM... The white later ones with detachable large keyboards definitely were for IBM and were used with a cluster terminal controller if memory is correct... if they were ASCII were sync not async? My memory escapes me at this point except for the fact none of us could use them and we call scrapped them! In a message dated 8/14/2016 3:36:00 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, linimon at lonesome.com writes: Heh, that sounds like the description of the Hazeltine terminals we were forced to use on a long-ago project. The vertical hold ... didn't. It was plus or minus 2. After using the monsters for an hour or so you had to go walk outside until your own vertical hold settled down. I imagine anyone who easily got seasick could never had used them at all. mcl

8 years, 4 months

can anyone identify this terminal keyboard and pcb?

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Hi Al - if they are itt courier was after my days of buying scrap there. I am looking for the old green terminals we used to call green frogs and would scap as fast as we ended up with them... now as a memento some of wish we had saved one of the old evil things... also looking for ITT asciiscope with the amber screen and the acoustic coupler on the top. Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 8/14/2016 2:30:04 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, aek at bitsavers.org writes: http://www.ebay.com/itm/172299367709 (kb) http://www.ebay.com/itm/172290512799 (pcb) I think it may be a Courier. I bought the pcb, which has "C8080" on the sn label so I'm guessing it's Courier. Quite unusual with build-in modem. Will be dumping the eproms soon, hopefully some text strings in there. The seller ripped the terminals apart years ago for the 8080s and didn't rember the make/model, only that the case was two-tone. He got a pretty penny for the crappy probably dead Keytronic foil/foam keyboard ($80) Weird thing is it looks like a Lear-Sieger pcb design, with the Molex power connectors and the color/font of the markings on the silk-screen.

8 years, 4 months

can anyone identify this terminal keyboard and pcb?

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Yes Al, That is a green Frog! Cool! glad at least one still exists... I am in hopes there is still in one of existing in one the aux buildings here... I should display some Courier stuff. the later model was all while and had a detachable keyboard. We had a surplus electronics dealer would try to sell them to unsuspecting college students as terminals to be used with DEC system on campus... as I remember they were for use with IBM systems. ITT ASCIISCOPE was a good old self contained ASCII terminal and modem ALL UPPER CASE... in the early 80s sold them fast as we could get them... I liked UPPER CASE TERMINALS ---- QUICKER ---LESS WORK WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SHIFT! All the electronics scrappers and the few of us that dealt in computer stuff would go to the ITT sales... One of my best things was the palate loads of power cord that were new . I bid and got and sold to Bill Godbout... - ah the early 80s! I met Bill at a computer show in san Jose as I remember run by John Craig that had the 59 el Camino ( I think I have the name right? correct me!?)) I saved I think 100 figuring that was as many as we would need for awhile... Courier also had the contract to make the first McDonalds point of order terminals all of us scrapped lots of those too.... did anyone save one? You never know what was going to be at a Courier scrap sale... tools, pcbs terminals, cable on the wood reels... This was an interesting era and the early 80s I think I hauled lots of scrap... at the end of 79 started the business with 100 bucks and an empty van. sold surplus dg and dec stuff piecemeal and some interdata and what ever I could drag in.. Once I got the HP-2000 timeshare system that was the real game changer... it put us in the hp parts biz to support our own system and then 83? 84 became HP PC dealers still sold 2000 and 1000 stuff and designed boards for them.... got into the 3000 line ... I suspect the board you have Al , if courier, with the plug in modem, was surplused after I was going to sales... all I ever got there were the while IBM ones and the green frogs.... the ASCIISCOPEs that were floating around town may have come surplus into the market but just slightly before i was going to auctions there or they were just some off lease stuff from some of the lease companies that floated into consumer circle and we would end up buying one every once in a while In a message dated 8/14/2016 2:45:35 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, aek at bitsavers.org writes: On 8/14/16 2:35 PM, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote: > I am looking for the old green terminals we used to call green frogs we got one a couple years ago http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102716411

8 years, 4 months

VCF West - news, pictures, videos

by cctalk＠snarc.net

VCF West last weekend saw more than 1,000 attendees. Huge thank-you to everyone!!! We are processing the videos and will post links here when they're ready. Meanwhile there are some excellent pictures / articles / etc. already online. A few are here: - TechRepublic (by me): [url]http://www.techrepublic.com/pictures/photos-homebrew-cpus-ibm-mainframe…] - TechCrunch's pictures: [url]https://techcrunch.com/gallery/how-far-weve-come-the-top-5-retro-gadget…] - San Jose Mercury News: [url]http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_30214923/vintage-computer-f…] - SD Times: [url]http://sdtimes.com/vintage-computer-festival-highlights-decades-history…] - Bill Deg.'s pictures: [url]http://vintagecomputer.net/VCFWest_2016/[/url] - Jim S.'s videos: [url]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5NK70kdq3-JGwb_8GXFN5SqDtbTKtLi…] - Same Jim S. has pictures, too: [url]https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOpZ5hCd-eBPF69CLb2lCSD3wdU5-3AOG1…] - Marc V.'s video: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bbsgfanbE0&feature=youtu.be[/url] - Who's this weird-looking dude holding the prototype Apple 1 and taking a selfie with Al Alcorn? :) http://snarc.net/evan_celebration1.jpg http://snarc.net/evan_alcorn.jpg

8 years, 4 months

Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 09:20:13 -0400 > From: Christian Gauger-Cosgrove <captainkirk359 at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - > PDP-11 > > There's also different coloured versions for many of the panels too. > E.g. there's a brown-and-white '70 panel used in OEM typesetting > systems by CSI Systems (if I recall right). > > Cheers, > Christian > The RICM has a brown CSI PDP-11/70 front panel. -- Michael Thompson

8 years, 4 months

Front Panel update - Catalog

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Jay West > I had already offered to host the panels... I just didn't want to > create full blow web content I'd be happy to create some Web V0.1 content for it - similar to my other simple Web pages, e.g.: http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/DECIndicatorPanels.html Let me know. Noel

8 years, 4 months

Kermit version compatibility.

by charles.unix.pro＠gmail.com

Multics 12.6 has a Kermit program; the history log in the source indicate that it written circa 1984 and last modified circa 1990. My local host runs CKermit 9.0, circa 2015. They do not play nice; some Kermit protocol change is causing high packet retry rates, timeouts and sometimes complete confusion. Going back through the CKermit source archives, I find that once I can get CKermit 5 to build, it works like a champ. That isn't a good solution; for e.g. getting V5 to work under OS/X would probably be a big issue. CKermit has a ton of SET options; rather then trying them randomly to see if I can make it compatible, I thought I'd inquire if anyone had the misfortune to be so well versed in Kermit arcana that they would know what settings would get CKermit V9 to behave like V5, or at least some ideas on the best route to pursue. Thanks, -- Charles

8 years, 4 months

Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

by rodsmallwood52＠btinternet.com

Hi Guys Well my panels made to VCF. I have had some feedback and I expect more. Currently I have stock of PDP-8/e (Types A and B) , PDP-8/f and PDP-8/m. PDP-8/i should be out of manufacturing by now. Next up is PDP-8/L. -++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Order the above now ++++++++++++++++++ Due to our house remodeling and holidays at the silk screen studio it was quiet up until this week.. However now things have started up again. I'm about to revisit the PDP-8 bezel project. The prototype had a few issues but nothing major. I should have a painted example shortly. Once the PDP-8/L batch are safely in the stock room it will be time to start on PDP-11 panels. +++++++++++++++++++++++ Please register interest in bezels and PDP-11 panels ++++++++++++++++ Rod (Panelman) Smallwood

8 years, 4 months

For trade: beautiful Data General Nova 820 w/ Diablo Drive & controller

by ian.finder＠gmail.com

I picked this early DG machine up and although it's awesome and complete, I just don't think I'll get to restoring it. I'd like to trade for anything Symbolics, or potentially other very early graphical workstation hardware (PERQ, 68K SGI, etc.) Located in Seattle, but I am no stranger to freight. This is an early DG jumbo chassis with everything you need, tons of core, and the removable pack drive. Cheers, - Ian -- Ian Finder (206) 395-MIPS ian.finder at gmail.com

8 years, 4 months

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test-drb August 2016