test-drb July 2016

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by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

I was poking around a junk shop that I visit from time to time and I saw a toy. It didn't really strike me as that interesting when I saw it but I've been wondering about it since I left the place this morning. The thing was mostly red plastic with a cardboard bottom. It had a two-prong AC cord and a four prong "old fashioned" telephone jack. It had two big buttons and a spool of paper tape mounted on the front. The tape was about 1/4 inch wide. I call it a toy because it had that sort of feel about it. It was not clearly labeled as such. It was also styled in a way that suggested late 1960s to me. The whole thing was the size of a small shoe box. I can't find anything like it in google searches. I wonder if it might have some early modem like device in it. Does this description "ring a bell" with anyone? Bill S.

8 years, 1 month

filters

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I should point out. one of yahoo's primary criteria for deep-sixing listserv traffic. is if the reply-to is set to the list instead of the (arguably more standard/compliant but less useful) reply-to-sender. No, don't want to start that flame war again. Just saying. that's a yahoo criteria. J

8 years, 1 month

Excessive Bounces

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

I keep getting emails from the list server disabling my account for excessive bounces. Is it possible to get a log showing where the problem is coming from so I can complain to my ISP? Thanks Rob

8 years, 1 month

Excessive Bounces

by stark＠mit.edu

Well with yahoo domain having a hard fail specified it looks like it's too stay. The typical troublemaker with yahoo mail is lists modifying message bodies or subject lines. Those practices will gauge have to end (and frankly it can't be soon enough imho). That said the usual consequence is that messages *from* yahoo through the list get binned for Gmail users or anyone else who enforces DKIM. I've noticed Gmail has started marking messages in Spam with the reason why they're there and when they first started a *lot* if them were due to signature fails. There are very few these days which make me believe the lists I'm on have changed practices. Certainly yahoo hasn't rolled back their dns records. So unpredictability makes since sense as the bounces you see will be very dependent on the domains *sending* the messages and their dns records. If you have a thread with a couple yahoo uses talking back and forth you could well see a series of bounces from users on servers that respect Yahoo's dns records requesting a hard fail. -- Greg

8 years, 1 month

FOCAL-65 for the 6502?

by nw＠retrocomputingtasmania.com

Long ago there was a thread about FOCAL-65 for the 6502, and I asked the people involved but it seemed it never came to light. http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/cctalk/2001-September/1691.html As it happens I appear to have both the user-manual and a quite thick photocopied (not great quality) listing of FOCAL-65, that I am happy to scan and upload somewhere. However, if this already exists somewhere and can point to it, I can put this scanning task aside. thanks.

8 years, 1 month

Running CRTs without implosion protection glass

by ian.finder＠gmail.com

I know a few list members who have been doing this, after fixing CRT cataracts. Was that glass additionally leaded to cut down on X-rays at all? Is there a risk to that? These are mostly black and white CRTs. -- Ian Finder (206) 395-MIPS ian.finder at gmail.com

8 years, 1 month

Actually we want this Packard Bell http://www.smecc.org/itemsklkljl; _3.jpg

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Actually we want this Packard Bell http://www.smecc.org/itemsklkljl;_3.jpg for the computer display at SMECC! Also want any promo material, artwork, manuals etc etc etc.... drop me a line offlist with a title of SMECC Packard Bell please to _couryhouse at aol.com_ (mailto:couryhouse at aol.com) thisis what we are looking for http://www.smecc.org/itemsklkljl;_3.jpg In a message dated 7/1/2016 10:49:36 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, js at cimmeri.com writes: Computers don't (yet) have voting rights. :-) But you're defining "spirit" and listing criteria by which a machine is appropriate or not. A PS/2 with an 80386 running Windows 3.1 is acceptable, whereas a Packard Bell with an 80386 running Windows 3.1 is not. Yeah, you and I would cringe at a PB being discussed, but maybe there's someone out there who really is fond of their PB. So as Terry ("Tezza") acknowledges, terms like "landmark," "classic," "collectible" are subjective (but I don't think "vintage" is subjective -- that term is usually set by age alone). This is why it's just easier to use a single criteria -- age -- and leave it at that. Why is age acceptable everywhere else in collecting, but not here? Otherwise, someone (the list owner?) has to pontificate over a list of acceptable computers. Good luck with that. - J.

8 years, 1 month

what's vintage? was Re: Latest addition: A bondi-blue iMac

by couryhouse＠aol.com

For some things like video ?editing ?a tube monitor has better color gamet..sp?... than chap or enemy middle expensive lcds.... Most important to me is this color although for data and juSt to ?stretch ?time line across I use 40 Inch lcd flats.... ? Good flats ?are good but price is very expensive. ... Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: TeoZ <teoz at neo.rr.com> Date: 7/1/2016 3:00 PM (GMT-07:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: what's vintage? was Re: Latest addition: A bondi-blue iMac People junked most of the older small low res slow refresh non working (bad caps) non widescreen LCD monitors by now. I kept one I got free and fixed ages ago for bench testing (has just a VGA connection) since it is easy to move around. Newer gaming video cards don't even have VGA out anymore so the older VGA connector monitors are of no use. Could also be instead of offering them for sale or free people just straight up recycle them because of low demand for working ones. On a recycling forum I read people were trying to sell working older units for $10 each with no luck. The last 2 LCD monitors I purchased new were $100 (Both DELLs a 23" IPS 1080P and a 24" 1080P) so pricing is not a problem like it used to be in the 90's were a 17" quality monitor was $800. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Guzis Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 3:14 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: what's vintage? was Re: Latest addition: A bondi-blue iMac On 07/01/2016 11:48 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > Or, for free, a dumpster LCD. I find working ones discarded > regularly, and 90% of the non-working ones are just bad inverter caps > ($2 worth). Been there, done that--and even depopulated the inverter section on one PCB (badly designed--capacitors hot-glued to heatsinks, that sort of thing) and replaced it with a cheap "universal" CFL inverter.? Still works fine. Strangely, I don't see nearly as many junked LCD displays today as I did 5 years ago for some reason. --Chuck --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

8 years, 1 month

Latest addition: A bondi-blue iMac

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

8 years, 1 month

Who is using an Dolch (DLI) Logic Analyzer?

by holm＠freibergnet.de

Hi all, I've got an Dolch C100D Analyzer with an bunch of Probes lately, And I'm lookinffor someone that has an Dolch LA with an Disassembler Option - ROM installed and is able to read out it's contents. I Do habe an C100D analyzer, got it w/o any documentation but the LAM3250 docs available at the uni Stuttgart fits alsmost exactly. It seems, that most of the Dolch LAs are internal powered from a Z80 so it is'nt unlikely that the Options will fit in different models. I'll get two Dolch 64300 tomorrow, one for repair..disassemblers included, but the 64300 has ROM cassettes for plugin. Kind Regards, Holm -- Technik Service u. Handel Tiffe, www.tsht.de, Holm Tiffe, Freiberger Stra?e 42, 09600 Obersch?na, USt-Id: DE253710583 www.tsht.de, info at tsht.de, Fax +49 3731 74200, Mobil: 0172 8790 741

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test-drb July 2016