test-drb July 2016

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by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Does anyone have experience with reading in then writing out flux transitions with a Kryoflux on an 8? floppy drive as well? If that is known to work reliably I?m buying one :) Kryoflux?s next project should be the same thing but for ? mag tape. I think Al did something like that years ago, but an off the shelf product for ? tape would be spiffy. J

7 years, 10 months

Actually we want this Packard Bell http://www.smecc.org/itemsklkljl; _3.jpg

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Not just any Packard Bell... just this one. it has a place due to form and design, certainly not performance. http://www.smecc.org/itemsklkljl;_3.jpg Please let me know if you find one. Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC In a message dated 7/2/2016 7:53:14 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cisin at xenosoft.com writes: On Sat, 2 Jul 2016, David Griffith wrote: > It seems that museums have traditionaly sought the best artifacts. I > feel they should also exhibit crap from time to time to remind visitors > of history's wrong turns. It took a little while before Edsels became collectible. Yugo

7 years, 10 months

Maybe interesting toy in junk shop...

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

I remember ours has 4 pin connector too but not as robust as a ma bell one.. ours comes in a orig box even. I was mixed as to if I wanted to display it with ttys or with sci-tech kids toys and devices display we have in a huge walk in display case. ... it is sitting up in the front office ... I am sure there are photos somewhere on one of the servers...but too tired to chase it tonite. In a message dated 7/2/2016 11:08:44 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cclist at sydex.com writes: On 07/02/2016 09:54 PM, couryhouse wrote: > > > No it gets printed to... there are TTYS in real world and print on > strip then western union would oade each strip onto sheet of > paper....what did they want for it? > Yes, I know--I once owned a model 14 TTY, complete with a pile of mucilage-backed tape for the teleprinter. But it was a beast, not a red plastic thing. --Chuck

7 years, 10 months

Maybe interesting toy in junk shop...

by couryhouse＠aol.com

No it gets printed to... ?there are TTYS in real world and print ?on strip then western ?union would oade each strip ?onto sheet of paper....what did they want for it? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> Date: 7/2/2016 9:15 PM (GMT-07:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Maybe interesting toy in junk shop... On 07/02/2016 08:56 PM, Bill Sudbrink wrote: > No, I don't think so.? I'm pretty sure that the paper tape on this > thing is for output, probably printed or marked in some way because > the paper seemed too flimsy to hold a readable punch pattern.? But > now I'm pretty determined to go back tomorrow and see if I can get > some more info.? I didn't look at the bottom of it, maybe there's a > label. Perhaps it's a device to print dialed numbers? --Chuck

7 years, 10 months

RE: Actually we want this Packard Bell http://www.smecc.org/itemsklkljl; _3.jpg

by couryhouse＠aol.com

I would like that 6 proc black cube......ed sharpe Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net> Date: 7/2/2016 8:00 PM (GMT-07:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: RE: Actually we want this Packard Bell http://www.smecc.org/itemsklkljl; _3.jpg On Sat, 2 Jul 2016, Jay West wrote: > Ed wrote... > --------- > Not just any Packard Bell...? just this one. > http://www.smecc.org/itemsklkljl;_3.jpg > it? has a place? due to form and design, certainly not? performance. > --------- > IMOO.... no place at all. If it had some kind of cult following, or lots of > people remembered it, maybe. > But I doubt most people (let alone collectors) would look at that and say > "oh, I've seen that before!". > > Now... maybe as an example of how hard mfg's tried to differential via > terrible case designs... ;) I think the same could probably be said for something like that 6-processor Pentium Pro that was sold in the late 90s which had a black cube style case and a stand which allowed it to sit on its corner. Very unusual design with both the case and boards, but few people will have seen, let alone used one. As far as utility goes, they are just about worthless now, except to someone who wants to collect one for nostalgia reasons. I myself wouldn't mind finding a Packard Bell Legend I (Intel 80286) only because I once owned two of them (that were sold without my approval as a pair to someone for $100, including the VGA monitors). The same also goes for a Compaq Deskpro 386/20e (specifically the 'e' model) for similar reasons. Both machines are not something all that useful from a utility standpoint (I have dozens of late generation 486 and Pentium boards I could put in a case which would be far more useful) but would be fun to have just to tinker around with again.

7 years, 10 months

Maybe interesting toy in junk shop...

by couryhouse＠aol.com

I gave a kids teletter sort of tape sender receiver. There are two to b a kit.. what did they want for it we could use for an off site display. ?Ed Sharpe ARCHIVIST For smecc Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> Date: 7/2/2016 8:08 PM (GMT-07:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Maybe interesting toy in junk shop... On Sat, 2 Jul 2016, Bill Sudbrink wrote: > I was poking around a junk shop that I visit from time > to time and I saw a toy.? It didn't really strike me as > that interesting when I saw it but I've been wondering > about it since I left the place this morning.? The > thing was mostly red plastic with a cardboard bottom.? It > had a two-prong AC cord and a four prong "old fashioned" > telephone jack.? It had two big buttons and a spool of > paper tape mounted on the front.? The tape was about 1/4 > inch wide.? I call it a toy because it had that sort of > feel about it.? It was not clearly labeled as such.? It > was also styled in a way that suggested late 1960s to me. > The whole thing was the size of a small shoe box.? I > can't find anything like it in google searches.? I wonder > if it might have some early modem like device in it.? Does > this description "ring a bell" with anyone? an auto-dialer for an alarm system? Was it punched tape (used as ROM)? or blank tape with some sort of marker?

7 years, 10 months

Maybe interesting toy in junk shop...

by cclist＠sydex.com

On 07/02/2016 08:56 PM, Bill Sudbrink wrote: > No, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure that the paper tape on this > thing is for output, probably printed or marked in some way because > the paper seemed too flimsy to hold a readable punch pattern. But > now I'm pretty determined to go back tomorrow and see if I can get > some more info. I didn't look at the bottom of it, maybe there's a > label. Perhaps it's a device to print dialed numbers? --Chuck

7 years, 10 months

Maybe interesting toy in junk shop...

by cisin＠xenosoft.com

On Sat, 2 Jul 2016, Bill Sudbrink wrote: > No, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure that the paper > tape on this thing is for output, probably printed or > marked in some way because the paper seemed too flimsy > to hold a readable punch pattern. But now I'm pretty > determined to go back tomorrow and see if I can get > some more info. I didn't look at the bottom of it, maybe > there's a label. Let's hope so. If the 4-prong telephone jack is not being used for an actual telephone, . . . howzbout a telegraph recorder? 1/4" wide doesn't allow for much sideways, other than ON/OFF, unless there is a print head of some sort inside, then it could even be a TTY

7 years, 10 months

Maybe interesting toy in junk shop...

by cclist＠sydex.com

On 07/02/2016 07:32 PM, Bill Sudbrink wrote: > I was poking around a junk shop that I visit from time to time and I > saw a toy. It didn't really strike me as that interesting when I saw > it but I've been wondering about it since I left the place this > morning. The thing was mostly red plastic with a cardboard bottom. > It had a two-prong AC cord and a four prong "old fashioned" telephone > jack. It had two big buttons and a spool of paper tape mounted on > the front. The tape was about 1/4 inch wide. I call it a toy > because it had that sort of feel about it. It was not clearly > labeled as such. It was also styled in a way that suggested late > 1960s to me. The whole thing was the size of a small shoe box. I > can't find anything like it in google searches. I wonder if it might > have some early modem like device in it. Does this description "ring > a bell" with anyone? Sounds like a late-model Kilburg Dialaphone. 1960-ish. Early models directly operated the dial of the desk telephone--later ones just pulsed the line appropriately--something that AT&T objected to and that Kilburg unsuccessfully fought. This was years before the Carterfone episode. Memory was a paper tape with printed names on it. That particular unit sounds like a very rare piece of kit. Am I getting close? --Chuck

7 years, 10 months

Maybe interesting toy in junk shop...

by cisin＠xenosoft.com

On Sat, 2 Jul 2016, Bill Sudbrink wrote: > I was poking around a junk shop that I visit from time > to time and I saw a toy. It didn't really strike me as > that interesting when I saw it but I've been wondering > about it since I left the place this morning. The > thing was mostly red plastic with a cardboard bottom. It > had a two-prong AC cord and a four prong "old fashioned" > telephone jack. It had two big buttons and a spool of > paper tape mounted on the front. The tape was about 1/4 > inch wide. I call it a toy because it had that sort of > feel about it. It was not clearly labeled as such. It > was also styled in a way that suggested late 1960s to me. > The whole thing was the size of a small shoe box. I > can't find anything like it in google searches. I wonder > if it might have some early modem like device in it. Does > this description "ring a bell" with anyone? an auto-dialer for an alarm system? Was it punched tape (used as ROM)? or blank tape with some sort of marker?

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