On Thu, 24 Nov 2016, Graham Toal wrote:
> Not so. By doing nothing (ie NOT creating an SPF record for the sending
> domain) you pretty much guarantee a lack of problems. (At least, these
> specific problems). It's the smart aleck admins who do create SPF records
> etc who cause the problems, in conjunction with recipients that think these
> records are worth paying attention to. The irony is that SPF was invented
> by the advertising industry to ensure that their so called 'legitimate'
> bulk mail gets through; it does very little to stop actual spam and it
> completely messes up mailing lists and people who use traditional SMTP mail
> while travelling. Sorry, I shouldn't start on SPF, it just drives me
> crazy. If you are a DNS admin, *please* don't fall for the SPF bullshit.
> (For some reason Microsoft are totally enamored of it and twist their
> clients' arms to enable it :-/ )
You are preaching to the choir. Some of the first implementers of SPFs
were outfits that the rest of us would call spammers. As for Micro$oft,
my employer trashed our Zimbra and PMDF servers and sent us over to
Office365 so now I spend my time babysitting Exchange in the cloud,
writing PowerShell scripts, and waiting a Micro$oft minute for things
to happen that used to be immediate.
And you are right, Micro$ofts loves SPFs but they do nothing at all to
expedite our mail through their servers.
And in honour of Micro$oft, SPFs, and my 21st century managers, I am
retiring in 29 days.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "...underneath those
Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : heads are naked!"
** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black
I've been working a little bit off-and-on for years on reverse-engineering
the WD1000 and WD1001 disk controllers (8X300/8X305-based), and their
clones. I've only made any significant progress within the last few days,
after hacking together my own disassesmbler which deals with the Fast I/O
Select PROM. I do NOT recommend using this disassembler yet, for reasons
that are explained in the README, but I've put it on github:
https://github.com/brouhaha/s8x30x
I've made some progress interpreting the firmware of an early WD1000, which
only had 512 words of firmware, and didn't support run-time configurable
sector size selection. So far I've figured out how they handle the host
reading and writing the task file, dispatching the commands, and much of
the sector ID search.
On Thu, 24 Nov 2016, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
> I was thinking of changing my email to another provider even though I've had
> this one for at least 12 years. But if it's because of a configuration
> problem, then other providers may react the same way so will it do any good?
I doubt that changing your email provider will help.
My mail is constantly being disabled now that I am using my ISP address
but it wasn't while I was using my work email address but I think that
is a coincidence - the problem did not manifest itself until a few
weeks after I changed my email address.
By the way, I am my employer's email administrator and I know that I was
not doing anything special to make the email go through - no spf records,
no nothing.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "...underneath those
Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : heads are naked!"
** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black
seems odd some list serves have this problem and some do not out
there... which would suggest it may be a matter of the way the listserv is
configured. I hear people with yahoo mail complain about some list serves but
they also say some cause no problem at all.
Most of it is a mystery to me as I have not run a listserv on a server
or a mailserver..
Ed#
In a message dated 11/23/2016 10:05:13 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,
johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com writes:
On 11/23/2016 8:00 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016, Michael Brutman wrote:
>> Gmail routinely marks these emails as spam. And Gmail clearly says: "
It
>> has a from address in aol.com but has failed aol.com's required tests
for
>> authentication."
>>
>> Digging deeper into the header one finds:
>>
>> "Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of
>> cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org designates 199.188.211.196 as permitted
>> sender) client-ip=199.188.211.196;
>> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
>> dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=(a)mx.aol.com;
>> spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of
>> cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org designates 199.188.211.196 as permitted
>> sender) smtp.mailfrom=cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org;
>> dmarc=fail (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=aol.com"
>>
>>
>> I'm no expert on dmarc, but that looks to be the source of the pain.
>
> Do we have any evidence that his messages are affecting the rest of us,
> though?
>
I get disabled regularly. My address is at Yahoo. Currently I'm sitting
at 2.0 out of 5.0 for my bounce score. The previous disabled messages came
at:
11/20/2016
11/06/2016
10/25/2016
10/18/2016
10/13/2016
10/05/2016
09/26/2016
09/10/2016
08/23/2016
08/11/2016
08/06/2016
08/01/2016
07/19/2016
07/10/2016
07/01/2016
A fairly uneven distribution. None repeating sooner than 5 days and
sometimes taking up to 18 days before hitting the 5.0 bounce limit.
I was thinking of changing my email to another provider even though I've
had this one for at least 12 years. But if it's because of a configuration
problem, then other providers may react the same way so will it do any
good?
John H. Reinhardt
Ditto although my timing was odd and I may have gotten the notice prior to replying. ?I emailed Jay off list but understandably he should be having some family time during this holiday break and not having to worry about us right now :-)
Hopefully there's a log or something noting what the mail service did or what bounced if anything.
-------- Original message --------From: Adrian Stoness <tdk.knight at gmail.com>
Weird I got one of these notices today when I replayed to a thread
Dunno if this will appeal to any of the readership, but Electronics
Goldmine is offering a box of 30 new Papst 80 mm 24 volt fans for $10.
http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G21651A
I like Papst as a good brand. I just have no use of 30 24 volt fans.
--Chuck
Should we do some sort of tradition of what vintage computing item we're thankful for? If ?that's too much of a repeat it could be a vintage project this year that you're thankful for.
I know we're all thankful for Jay and classiccmp.org.
I'm thankful for my recent successful visit to San Jose. ?I was fortunate enough to get to experience both Weird Stuff (first time) and the CHM (2nd time but previous was VCF 10). Was great to hear some other visitors at the museum bringing up memories and some chatter about teaching kids about old tech. One visitor was talking about how he had a class do a sort of human logic array so they'd hold hands if it was true or false (like the battery, thread spindle/paperclip, light bulb intro form building your own computer books).
Picked up some Byte magazines from Weird Stuff as a souvenir and of course bought some shirts and a donation to support the museum. On the 8.5 hour drive back to wgere i was supposed to be I listened to some old RCR podcasts I think it was David Greelish, Bill Degnan, Earl Evans and Jason Scott) lol. Probably one of the first couple episodes. Good time and you all kept me awake on a dark Pacific Highway 1. So thankful for you all too.
:-p?
- John
no the only one that gets bounced is me.
and I have to re enable it every so often
not a lot though.... just sometimes
In a message dated 11/23/2016 4:57:44 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
charles.unix.pro at gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
>
>>>> On Wed, 23 Nov 2016, Ian Finder wrote:
>
>> Not an expert on mailing lists, but I wonder if the fact that gmail
always
>> puts COURYHOUSE into the spam folder due to AOL weirdness is the signal
>> source for the bounce?
>>
>
>
^^^ Mis-attributed; I (Charles) said that, and I have no data to go on --
pure speculation.
-- Charles
Used Dave's emulator to image the hd in an Intel SYP310 and to my
surprise it had an iRMX II (286) development toolchain on it. The
MAME guys got it running in simulation in about 30 minutes.
Anyone have any documentation or software distributions?
iRMX development stuff is extremely hard to find, esp the 286 version.
From: jim stephens
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 3:21 PM
> the Ultimate system was the only Non IBM written supervisor / system
> that ran on mainframes at the time.
You're going to have to be more specific than that. At what time? On
what mainframe(s)? Are you saying that by the time Ultimate, whatever
that is when it's at home, was running, no other non-IBM OSes were
running on IBM hardware, all others being dead? Or that Ultimate was
earlier than, say, MTS on IBM hardware? And are you claiming that no
other manufacturers' systems are mainframes? What are you saying?
Rich
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer
Living Computers: Museum + Labs
2245 1st Avenue S
Seattle, WA 98134
mailto:RichA at LivingComputers.orghttp://www.LivingComputers.org/