test-drb November 2016

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by mouse＠Rodents-Montreal.ORG

I've just dug out and inventoried two boxes of magnetic media. A little of it is not mine; a little more is stuff I'd like copies of if I can make it happen. But most of it is just going to leave soon, one way or another. I'd rather see it go to someone who can actually use it, but it is not worth the costs of keeping it around to me. I do not currently have any system on which I can check the contents of any of these (while it's possible I might get one or more set up, I can't count on it, and it's unlikely to happen soon). So, while the labeling might be accurate, it also might not. There are a bunch of TK50s (or something similar; I know there are other, similar, tapes, some similar enough to fool a quick inspection; I didn't look in detail to be sure every one is a TK50). They have labels, some printed, some scribbled, some carefully handwritten. Here, \ indicates a line break. SW/gnu \ Nov 28/91 /usr/local \ 91/10/26 6.0 + 797493 ULTRIX V4.2 \ SUPPORTED SUBSETS \ VOL. 1 ULTRIX V4.2 \ SUPPORTED SUBSETS \ VOL. 2 Sunclock \ 91/11/21 AQ-PE1F0-01 C01 \ DEC FORT ULTRIX V3.2 BIN \ TK50 AQ-PE1F0-01 \ DEC FORT ULTRIX V3.2 BIN \ TK50 ULTRIX V4.2 \ MANDATORY UPGRADE Kermit5A \ 91/11/21 DEC FORTRAN \ V3.0 (crossed out and "obsolete" written in) K2 /usr/local \ 1991/03/14 LOTUS 1-2-3 \ 91/11/19 /usr/users \ 91/10/20 swTeX.tar.Z \ 91/11/02 ULTRIX V4.2 \ UNSUPPORTED SUBSETS There are numerous quarter-inch cartridge tapes (the DC600 formfactor; many are DC600s or DC600As, but some are other sizes/lengths/formats). Some have no label. Three of these have absolutely no label, not even a manufacturer/brand label. Nine more have a brand label but no indication of their contents. One has a printed label which has been ripped off enough that all I'm sure of is that it had the usual boilerplate text for US Government users. Two others have ripped-off labels; on one, all that remains legible is "tix" at the end of a word; the other, I can see enough of a logo to be fairly sure it was an Accelr8 label. Four more have labels that are short and simple enough to fit on a single line: 89/02/22(F) ISC0D0S0 TO BE CHECKED 89/02/17 ISC0D0S0 /files! execlude ./digests & ./misc 90/10/08 cd /files Twenty-six tapes are labeled with just their sizes. These are written in my hand, so I feel fairly sure they are the result of me capcity-testing the tapes: SIZE: 30605 ?512 SIZE: 30643 ?512 SIZE: 30611 ?512 SIZE: 30730 ?512 SIZE: 30730 ?512 SIZE: 114081 ?512 SIZE: 115168 ?512 SIZE: 116769 ?512 SIZE: 118878 ?512 SIZE: 119721 ?512 SIZE: 119870 ?512 SIZE: 119891 ?512 SIZE: 120345 ?512 SIZE: 120352 ?512 SIZE: 120412 ?512 SIZE: 120586 ?512 SIZE: 120741 ?512 SIZE: 120756 ?512 SIZE: 121719 ?512 SIZE: 121722 ?512 SIZE: 121917 ?512 SIZE: 122116 ?512 SIZE: 122343 ?512 SIZE: 122608 ?512 SIZE: 122664 ?512 201796?512 Five more have sticky-notes (one on the box, one on the tape) and a size sticker. I _think_ the 3.5 here refers to version 3.5 or something (SunOS is a likely candidate). -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 1 sticker: SIZE: 121372 ?512 -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 2 sticker: SIZE: 118586 ?512 -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 3 sticker: SIZE: 119293 ?512 -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 4 sticker: SIZE: 122624 ?512 -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 5 sticker: SIZE: 120216 ?512 -- The rest are a grab-bag: -- NESTAR SYSTEMS INCORPORATED S.O. # INT4406 PLAN 5000 (tm) Boot Utility Tape QIC24 SERIAL # 6050221 SYSTEM RELEASE 5.2 (C) 1982-1986 NESTAR SYSTEMS, INC. -- NESTAR SYSTEMS INCORPORATED S.O. # INT4406 PLAN 000 (tm) PLANPAK # 712 IA BACKUP TAPE QIC SERIAL # 6060238 SYSTEM RELEASE 5 (C) 1982-1986 NESTAR SYSTEMS, INC. -- Nestar Systems, Inc. Subsidiary of DSC Communications Corporation PLAN Series (tm) Boot Uility Tape QIC-24 FS# UPGRADE Star Plus FS Release 1.10 160-12676-002 (c)1982-1988 DSC Nestar Inc -- various indistinct writing; legible bits include: 90/2/19 /FICRSI 90/04/10 DIGEST NeXT, SUN-SPOTS, SUN-386i 92/12/19 -- /HOME/ICH 10/10/90 , 11/17/90, 16/15/90 1/30/91 2/1/91 22.4.91 -- 3/15, 5/8, 7/26 (various further dates and words crossed out) SUG89 (INTERESTING STUFF ONLY) 90/12/16 -- IFUJ1 IFUJ1 90/03/19 TAR HOME/ICH 92/12/10 89/3/8 MPAQUETT 90/04/30 89/5/1 MPAQUETT 90/05/25 (indistinct) / 92/12/08 -- LAB B YEAR END 2/2 -- LAB J A3 MAY 7/93 -- LAB F YEAR END 1/2 -- LAB F YEAR END 1/2 -- LAB F YEAR END 1/2 -- LAB F YEAR END 1/2 -- LAB B YEAR END 1/2b -- LAB B 4 OF 4 LAB B 4 4 HP JAN 15 1993 n/u -- (crossed-out text omitted) ABBOTT INCR DUMP OCT-1-87 4 MAY 87 (1of2) -- NESTAR SYSTEMS INCORPORATED PLAN 1000 (tm) Print Server Version 1.1 IA BACKUP TAPE QIC- 11 P/N 160-12170-002 (C) 1981,1982,1983,1984,1985,1986,1987 NESTAR SYSTEMS, INC. Licensed Program -- SUPERSKETCH REL 6 ? A. PENTLAND 1985,1986,1987 -- LAB B 3 4 HP JAN 15 1993 -- Fall- 8AT LAB B 1 (unclear) End of Semester backup -- Accelr8 DESCRIPTION DCL8 (2,0) EDT8 (2,0) PART NUMBER 8-812-001, 002 RELEASE #: TAPE 1 OF 1 . NUMBER OF FILES BPI SN: 000646 -- (SUN 3.2 SUNBIN EXPORT 68020 logo) 1.4" Tape (boot format), 2 of 4 Part Number: 700-1256-02 Rev. A -- box: KEE 3.1 Genera 7.1 tape: 3.5 EXPORT SUNBIN 68020 1.4" Tape (boot format), 3 of 5 Part Number: 700-1600-02 Rev. A -- 13/3/89 Relax 1of2 LFRL system and saved results -- 13/3/89 Relax 2of2 -- LAB J A2 MAY 7/93 -- LAB F YEAR END 2/2 -- LAB B 2/4 -- LAB J A1 MAY 7/93 -- There are also a bunch of 5?" floppies. 34 of them are unlabeled, possibly completely unused: 9x Sony branded, DSDD 48tpi 6x Sony branded, "MD-2HD" 6x 3M branded, DS, DD, RH, MARK Q 9x BASF branded, 2S/2D 48tpi 4x Unbranded The BASF floppies from the above list are marked as being for sale to government and educational institutions only, not for resale; I don't know whether that has any bearing. Of the remaining floppies, some have labels short enough to be reasonably represented on a single line: QuickBasic 1of3 QuickBasic 2of3 QuickBasic 3of3 FW Macros d|i|g|i|t|a|l branded, unlabeled BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 28/28 85/10/28 (scratched out) BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 27/28 85/10/28 (scratched out) BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 26/28 85/10/28 (scratched out) BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 25/28 86/10/28 (scratched out) ?ACKUP ????OVMS 4.1M 6/28 85/10/28 (partially ripped off) BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 5/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 4/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 3/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 2/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 1/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 9/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 8/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 7/28 85/10/28 MS-DOS boot AG2012 Maxell branded, label ripped off, all that's legible is "FEB85" QuickBasic 1 QuickBasic 2 QuickBasic 3 Network Boot DOS 3.1 There is also a set of original Borland Turbo C diskettes: INSTALL/HELP A2B0427471 INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT COMMAND LINE/UTILITIES LIBRARIES HEADER FILES/LIBRARIES EXAMPLES/BGI/MISC and two sets of six which appear to be working copies of the above. There are three Microsoft-branded floppies: Microsoft Mouse Setup/Mouse Menus 1 Microsoft Paintbrush Program/Mouse Menus 2 Microsoft Paintbrush Utilities Disk and two that don't fit any of the above: -- label partially ripped off: remaining text is BL-N639C-BH P/OS HARD DIS DISPATCH VOLUME LABEL "PROD 1983 ? Digital Equipmen -- BitFax for Windows V2.08A (01/25/93) BitCom Deluxe with MNP5 v5.1 (06/20/91) -- This is all in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. In general, I suck at getting things shipped; local pickup, either in person or by proxy, is much preferred. I can try to find the round tuits to ship, but it's usually a losing proposition (I have at least two boxes of stuff that have been awaiting shipment for months at this point). /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

7 years, 5 months

Front Panels - PDP-8/L (Rod Smallwood)

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> > Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 08:07:00 +0000 > From: Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com> > Subject: Front Panels - PDP-8/L > > Hi Guys > > In addition to good stocks of PDP-8 panels as below I > have artwork ready to produce PDP-8/L > > panels. In order to gauge the size of the first batch please indicate > your interest. > > Rod (Panelman) Smallwood > > -- > PDP-8/e PDP-8/f PDP-8/m PDP-8/i > Front Panels ex Stock - Order Now How about making the overlay panel that goes at the top of DEC 19" racks? My PDP-8/e has the plastic part at the top of the cabinet, but the orange/yellow panel is missing. It probably uses the same colors as the 8/e front panel. -- Michael Thompson

7 years, 5 months

Wanted for RSX-11M Plus 4.6: the DECnet install tapes

by oscar.vermeulen＠hotmail.com

Hi, Memo to self: the DECnet install tape image *is* complete, my know-how isn't... As someone showed me: .mou mu3:/for .bru /rew/dir mu3: VOL1. INSTALL NETKIT 25-JAN-99 16:04:05 VOL1. NETKIT NETKIT 25-JAN-99 16:04:15 VOL1. DECKIT DECKIT 25-JAN-99 16:05:33 VOL1. PREGENRL02 ENDNODEKIT 25-JAN-99 16:07:47 BRU - Completed Beg your pardon :) Kind regards, Oscar.

7 years, 5 months

Wanted for RSX-11M Plus 4.6: the DECnet install tapes

by oscar.vermeulen＠hotmail.com

Hi, I am trying to do a clean install of RSX-11MP 4.6 on simh. I have found the install magtapes on Bitsavers, and they work fine. However, trying to install DECnet, I found only 1 of the 2 (or 3) install tapes. What is missing is the decnet11mp46-deckit tape. The accompanying **netkit** tape is on Bitsavers, but not the **deckit** tape. So you cannot complete the install process... Does anyone have this tape? I know there's an installed simh *disk* image, I also know you can fix the problem with it. But there is just nothing like having a full, proper install process to come up with your own setup :) And it would be nice if the last version is preserved completely. Kind regards, Oscar. For reference: A. installation magtapes for RSX-11 M PLUS 4.6: 1. http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/magtape… 2. http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/magtape… B. installation magtapes for the accompanying DECnet 11mp46: 1. http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/magtape… 2. MISSING: the DECKIT tape.

7 years, 5 months

iRMX 86 booting in simulation

by aek＠bitsavers.org

http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=108017#Post1… it would be really handy to have installation instructions for the 286 right now :-(

7 years, 5 months

3000 series 33

by aek＠bitsavers.org

http://www.cpushack.com/2016/11/26/hp-3000-series-33-16-bits-of-sapphire/ "Looking at the handdrawn schematic of the Series 33" ? Something Tony did?

7 years, 5 months

Front Panels - PDP-8/L

by rodsmallwood52＠btinternet.com

Hi Guys In addition to good stocks of PDP-8 panels as below I have artwork ready to produce PDP-8/L panels. In order to gauge the size of the first batch please indicate your interest. Rod (Panelman) Smallwood -- PDP-8/e PDP-8/f PDP-8/m PDP-8/i Front Panels ex Stock - Order Now

7 years, 5 months

A good shipping service for large computers?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Todd Goodman > Did you have any issues with customs bringing in the racked equipment > from Toronto? No; it just sailed right through. The fact that it was Canada->US probably helped. IIRC PakMail in Toronto picked a customs broker - or maybe we were talking about doing that, and he decided we needn't bother? I forget now. > Both times the carrier knew it was unpalleted computer equipment and > did a good job using blankets and strapping them into the trucks. > ... > The other carrier did a great job .. They mostly ship antiques and > pianos and other items that can be fragile and not palleted > ... > Both were very competitively priced in my experience. Sounds like these were both so-called 'white glove' shippers, who do things like furniture, etc. Those are also an option, but in my experience, somewhat more expensive: when I was shipping a pair of -11/84's from California to Virginia, the shipping cost just about doubled when I had to switch from freight to 'white glove' for them. Hence my advice to palletize stuff, and send it freight (at least for cross-continent, where the difference really adds up). Noel

7 years, 5 months

A good shipping service for large computers?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Devin Davison > I am uncertain of a good service to use for the task, i need the > machines to be packaged up / put on a pallet at the pickup location I have had good luck with PakMail (http://www.pakmail.com/); I've had them ship a couple of 6' racks (one from Arizona, one from Toronto), and been very happy with the results. The shipping cost in the Arizona case may not have been the absolute lowest possible I could have secured had I been on the spot, looking around, but.. I wasn't on the spot, looking around; and it was pretty reasonable (I've shipped a number of large items from the West Coast, so I think I'm reasonably well calibrated). And they went to the person's house, picked the thing up, put it on a pallet, and shipped it. A tip for keeping costs down when shipping via freight (i.e. on a pallet, which generally is a key thing to do to keep costs down) to one's house (i.e. not a place with a loading dock): if you have a vehicle which can hold the item(s), have it/them delivered to the nearest freight terminal, not the house, and go pick it up. That way, they won't have to roll a truck with a lift-gate to your house, which is an extra cost. Every line I've ever used (SAIA, FedEx Freight, etc) were happy, when one arrives to pick it up, to dump the shipment in their yard, and let one take everthing off the pallet and load it all into your vehicle. (But check with your local terminal first, to make sure they're OK with it. And check the weather prediction to pick the day to go get it! :-) And you generally save a couple of days, too. I have discovered that a Ford Taurus wagon nicely holds an H960 6'x19" rack (I joked that the car must have been designed by someone who collects old gear :-), so I have been able to pick up a shipment consisting of _two_ H960's this way: one inside, and one on the roof rack. With only one person, one has to remove the heavy units first, and put them in the car separately, but it can be done. Noel

7 years, 5 months

A good shipping service for large computers?

by lyokoboy0＠gmail.com

I have purchased 3 large SGi crimson computers and need them shipped from california to florida. I am uncertain of a good service to use for the task, i need the machines to be packaged up / put on a pallet at the pickup location, the owner is unable to do so. Usualy I would use YRC freight, however they do not offer the service to package the machines on site. Hopefully someone here can make a suggestion. Ive never dealt with shipping something this large before. I did have a Microvax 3800 shipped with YRC freight, however that was purchased through a business and was packaged before shipping. The crimsons will be a bit larger. I have the machines paid for, but figuring out the shipping has had me a bit stumped for the past few days. --Devin

7 years, 5 months

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