Hi John,
A testament to the extraordinary community that is classiccmp.
I
will certainly take you up on it, and get you a check, and/or some of
the other great junk lying around here. I'm pretty well equipped with a
good electronics lab. Do you need a scope? I have a few Tektronix
digital scopes and I cant possibly use them all. 100 MHz ....
I'm
not sure about the lockdown, I imagine when its undone the bolt is
stored in a available hole inside, and possibly is still there.
I
will see what comes back from craters and freighters and UShip, the
thing has to be taken off the pedestal and wrapped/banded onto a
pallet.
Let me know what you need, and hey,
Thanks,
Randy
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:49:59 -0500
> To: rdawson16 at hotmail.com
> From: jfoust at threedee.com
> Subject: RE: Freight recommendation for a teletype?
>
> At 09:29 PM 8/17/2015, you wrote:
> >123 N Washington St. Elkhorn WI 53121.
> >I asked for a quote from Craters and Freighters, and the UShip site.
>
> I'm not sure if I can help, but I thought I'd chime in.
>
> I'm 45 minutes from there, 30 minutes if I'm at my fianc?e's place.
> (Jefferson, WI and Janesville, WI, respectively.)
>
> I do have a friend with a loading dock and pallets and wrap.
>
> You do need to lock down the upper machinery with the shipping bolt
> or it'll destroy itself, depending on the shipping method.
>
> I have a 33 and a 28, too.
>
> - John
>
> From: drlegendre
> Sigh.. and here I sit, yet again, with neither a logic analyzer
I've bought Tek 1240's (which are really nice units, although of course
without the capabilities of today's - but still a lot more powerful than the
earliest LA's) on eBay for as little as $25 (albeit without leads), and I
gather there are modern units which plug into a PC with a UCB port for not
much more money.
Yes, a lot of the older machines were built without benefit of them (pretty
much all their builders had was 'scopes), but there are so many things where
one cannot easily create a 'scope loop, and for investigating those, a logic
analayzer is the perfect tool.
It's just a critical tool to have if one is going to _repair_ old computers -
only slightly less critical than a VOM. No ifs, ands or buts.
Noel
As the proud owner of an NtM Osborne 1 computer, courtesy of our own Jules
Richardson (and another list member), I made no delay in opening the case
to install a missing CPU. Jules was kind enough to let me know about the
missing part prior to handing the old girl over to me.
I'm sure you've already figured out what happened - unaware that the Z84C
series was CMOS, that's what went into the Osborne's CPU socket.
The machine came to life with a garbage display and howling on-board
beeper. Tried resetting it a few times, all I got was more and different
noise & garbage. That's when I shut down and did some reading - initially,
I thought it might be a clock speed issue - sometimes 'faster' chips won't
run at slower clock rates.
What I did learn is that Z-80 were made in CMOS versions, and the Z84C is
one.
So what did I most likely do, here? Hose the CPU for sure? Collateral
damage on the board? Both / Neither?
As ever, it's what you don't get, that gets you.
Thanks Al, I downloaded the assembler just in case. And to Chuck's point, it always felt like the MSDN distribution was a poorly documented, disorganized mess. I was not impressed.
The old Turbo C and new Watcom C are available freely for DOS 16 bit and people say very good things of both.
Marc
> From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com>
>
>> On 08/14/2015 12:00 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
>>
>> last 16 bit compiler is visual C++ 1.52c
>>
>> also ran across MASM 8
>>
>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=12654
>>
>> if you need it
> Schizophrenic MS labeling. The C++ suite is 1.52c, but the compiler
> identifies itself as 8.00c. Crazy.
>
> --Chuck
think dcc made a fake dg nova also!?
In a message dated 8/14/2015 8:24:14 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
aek at bitsavers.org writes:
oops, it's actually a Digital Computer Controls DCC-112
only think that worries me is some guy in the suv takes a liking to
it and "opps" he says " someone took it when I was in the restaurant!"
Ed#
In a message dated 8/17/2015 4:25:49 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
rdawson16 at hotmail.com writes:
Thanks Cory,
I listed it with UShip, and will wait to see what happens.
This was a great idea, I never heard of such a 'crowd-sourced' shipping
service before.
Randy
> Subject: Re: Freight recommendation for a teletype?
> From: coryheisterkamp at gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:33:38 -0500
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
>
> Randy,
>
> One option might be UShip. These are best transported laying down once
the paper and tape spindles are removed and preferably, that shipping screws
anchor down the chassis (though I have moved them without). With UShip,
you set an asking price with parameters, such as blanket wrap, or covered
shipping. Everyone from professionals to those with room to spare in their SUV
can then ask questions, accept the terms, or counter-offer. They don't get
paid until you've received the item and are satisfied. With items like
this, I almost prefer a private individual rather than a professional (bulk)
mover. -C
>
>
> On Aug 17, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Randy Dawson wrote:
>
> > Hi Classiccmp,
> >
> > I just purchased a ASR 33 teletype and now stuck with the problem of
getting it here, its in Wisconsin and I am in LA.
> >
> > Its pickup, the owner will not pack and ship.
> >
> > Do you know of a freight company that will put it on a pallet, band it
with care and take care of the shipping?
> >
> > Randy
>
=
I wonder if someone can help with a bit of a problem I have.
I have a compaq portable 3 system which has a working Pick (Non dos)
system on it.
It has the 5 1/4" floppy drives on it. I am looking for a bootable
floppy or 2 with something like dos 6.x on it and some utility that can
read and write disk sectors. Preferably the latter is a nice gui
program, but beggers can't be choosers.
I need to boot it up from the floppy drive and modify the pick system
dictionary to remove the main password. So the change to the system
will be surgical, just one sector.
If anyone can help, can you send me a note and let me know how I can
compensate you for your help.
If I really move crap around I may be able to find a system with the 5
1/4" floppies on it, but I'm not sure I could get a program onto the
system then out to the 5 1/4" drive and am also looking for suggestions
about what disk utility / editor might be useful if anyone has
suggestions on that. I'll go ahead and dredge up something soon if I
can't get help from somewhere.
thanks
Jim Stephens
>
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 01:29:27 -0400
> From: Evan Koblentz <evan at snarc.net>
> Subject: MARCH's Straight 8 restoration notes
>
> The RICM PDP-12 thread made me realize that I (nor I think David
> Gesswein) ever posted our PDP-8 notes here. (We did post a link to the
> Youtube video of the ceremony at VCF East.)
>
> Anyway, here are David's notes:
> http://www.pdp8.net/shows/vcfe15/slides/PDP-8_Restoration.html and also
> his exhibit notes here: http://www.pdp8.net/shows/vcfe15/vcfe15.shtml.
>
Evan,
It is nice to see documented proof that we are not the only people crazy
enough to attempt a restoration of a machine in that condition. The TU20
tape drive that came with the PDP-9 also had a unauthorized mouse upgrade,
and several transistors fell off the flip-chips when we touched them. They
were Germanium transistors so getting replacements was a challenge.
Michael Thompson
Hi Classiccmp,
I just purchased a ASR 33 teletype and now stuck with the problem of getting it here, its in Wisconsin and I am in LA.
Its pickup, the owner will not pack and ship.
Do you know of a freight company that will put it on a pallet, band it with care and take care of the shipping?
Randy
