Welcome Corey! how did you get the upside down font in the email
In a message dated 10/30/2015 9:59:06 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
applecorey at optonline.net writes:
Well I finally setup a separate email address so I can receive individual
messages from cctalk instead of the daily digest which really doesn't lend
itself to posting back.
Just wanted to say hi.
> From: Fred Cisin
> 2 or 3 decades ago, the folk controlling lower division undergraduate
> "Computer Science" at UC .. declared, "Assembly language is dead!
> Nobody will ever program in it again.", and shifted their program to
> assembly language may no longer be a great career path, but there will
> always be need for some levels of hand optimization.
It's worth teaching a bit of machine/assembler language, so that students
understand how computers _actually work_, underneath.
There's a semi-famous incident from a couple of decades back at MIT: they
were teaching a programming course in CLU (an "object-based" language which
contributed many ideas to object-oriented programming). So one assignment was
to write an assembler - which required being able to print octal numbers.
So quite a few of the students wrote 'octal clusters' ('cluster' is CLU
jargon for the collection of routines which know-how/are-allowed to operate
on members of a class), which used normal decimal read and write to do
input/output - and had 'octal add' etc routines which took apart two 'octal
numbers' abcdef, stored as the decimal number abcdef, into their constituent
digits, added them together individually, did the carries, and then put it
all back together. (I am not making this up. This really happened.)
Apparently nobody had ever told them that a number in memory is... just a
number. At which point it became clear that they needed to know a little
more about how a computer actually worked.
it is pretty neat!!!
In a message dated 10/30/2015 1:36:30 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
applecorey at optonline.net writes:
I honestly don't remember. I know Woz sent me instructions on how to do
it, this was a few years ago. I've just been cutting and pasting the
competed signature since then, so I forgot. Maybe I can dig up the
instructions over the weekend.
FYI. I just got the daily digest on my other email and it apparently
strips out the upside down stuff.
> On Oct 30, 2015, at 1:27 PM, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote:
> Welcome Corey! how did you get the upside down font in the email
> sig? Ed#
> In a message dated 10/30/2015 9:59:06 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> applecorey at optonline.net writes:
> Well I finally setup a separate email address so I can receive
> messages from cctalk instead of the daily digest which really doesn't
> itself to posting back.
> Just wanted to say hi.
> corey cohen
> u??o? ???o?
Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
> On 30 October 2015 at 12:02, rod <rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com> wrote:
> > The list seems very quiet to-day.
> > I have had only one post this morning.
> > Anybody know why?
> Is everybody off at the top-secret VCF-Paris?
Nah - VCF-Paris is just a decoy to distract the few who might have heard about
the ultra secret VCF-Madrid.
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Liam Proven wrote:
> > No replies to my message about NASA wanting Fortran programmers...
> extinct? or just too shameful?
Too busy trying to contact NASA to see if they are willing to take on someone
telecommuting across the Atlantic Ocean (after all, the difference in distance
to where the probes are now would not be of any significance).
I just got back from the meeting at the silk screen shop.
They are going to start by printing ten PDP8/e panels with the details
that are common to both A and B.
I'm sending them a couple of overlays. One to convert the common panel
to an A Type and the other to make it into a B type.
Four A type and Three B type are sold. This means I have three slots
left that can become either an A or a B.
Same goes for 8/f and 8/m . They will print up to the common point and
an overlay will turn it into either an /f or /m
This time the stock will be a bit better. Two /f have gone so eight
slots are available to become a /f or a /m
So to be able to make an 8/e Type A or Type B takes
One precut perspex sheet,
One screen for each color (two)
One screen for the white
One matte finish coating
Two screens for the overlays
One screen for the lamp view ports on the back.
Total six silk screens
Then I'll add in packing and shipping cost.
I'll freeze the order on Monday
Then work out the unit price and add in packing and shipping cost.
Then call for payment from those without prepaid orders.
So there are three 8/e A or B slots and eight 8/f or 8/m slots
available until Monday