What about Samtron? Were they related to Samsung? And what about Samsung? I know they made a 286 at least.
There were a million. Millions and millions.
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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 1:43 PM PST Ethan Dicks wrote:
>ISTR some games that had to be released in Tandy 1000-compatible
>versions, but perhaps that was due to video hardware that wasn't
>really EGA or VGA-compatible at the register level.
>
>-ethan
They took advantage of enhanced CGA modes. Same with the jr.
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On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 10:58 AM PST Pete Plank wrote:
>
>On Feb 13, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Scott Quinn <saquinn624 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> For those with old clones, what do you use them for, or is it just mostly nostalgia?
>
>I keep one for writing out disk images to 8" drives.
>
>Pete
You feel it's necessary to have an 8088 to do this? Can you tell us which specific components you use.
. Tandy was questionable, but in
>> reality not as bad as their rep.
>
>Yep. another case of not being exactly the same, and catching flack for
>that. Marketing did little or nothing to help prevent people looking for
>a CHEAPER 5150 from buying a machine that was DIFFERENT.
>That was probably MOST of the Sanyo sales, and even the RS 2000.
The 1000 couldn't take the longest cards. The earliest mobos had gold ram. The quality wasn't really bad. The 2k wasn't compatible and was possibly a bit less reliable. But when sales drooped (1st quarter?) They used them in the back rooms. They couldn't have been that bad but perhaps there's a reason so many had Bernoulli boxes jest in case ;)
>There was a local surplus dealer who had Augat sockets cheap! At local
>swaps, I was able to buy bare imitation 5160 motherboards. I learned to
>solder, often while watching TV. The third one that I assembled worked!
>By then, I was also no longer putting in sockets for DIP Switches and
>resistor packs :-)
I got my foist xsistor radio soldered and working wit no problems at all. I have a Canadian made I think MBE-XT bare board. I should populate it jest to see if I still got it going on ;). I'll need a box - anyone - and sit it next to my faux ATjr. Or maybe just screw it to a.piece of plywood and be happy.
>So, who WERE the worst EARLY clones?
>
>There WERE much worse machines than Sanyo. (which suffered more from
>incompatability than quality).
Hyundai were also too late I assume. Tandy was questionable, but in reality not as bad as their rep. Cordat, Corona? Can't say. There were gujillions of Taiwanese boxes in those days. There were kit computers. I know I'll get egged for.this, but personally I think people were stupid to not build a clone from parts they mail ordered from the back of BYTE. I was in fact too stupid. Heard all the bed rap about evil vicious clones and their problems. I did return my Tandy 1000 once I found out I could get top of the line graphics and screen for the same price. But I waited over a year to buy a Multisync II then some months later a pernicious Tandy 2000. It would have held up longer if I wasn't constantly tearing it apart. Then I bought an Itt Xtra XP 286 hybrid. Wasn't bad at all, but once again I conxtantly twiddled with it's innards.
Terry Yaeger once had a Hacker XT luggable. Maybe you should talk to him about it. And I'm telling you right now one of the rarest things in the universe are the later vga luggables that seemingly were churned out in the trillions.
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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:44 AM PST Fred Cisin wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Chris Tofu wrote:
>> In the 1980s??? Please provide proof of that.
>
>Want one???
An E-Machines peecee clone from the 1980s? I'd pay money for it.
Hi,
Just wondering, is it possible to upgrade a CMD CQD-220/T/M to a
CQD-220/TM by replacing the 2 firmware eproms?
Thanks,
Ed
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Zeg NEE tegen de 'slimme' meter.
They probably declared themselves never obsolete due to the atx form factor. Was their a 466mhz P* or was that a celeron? I'd bet 10 to 1 you could slap an 8" drive in that baby and archive to your heart's content. Somebody grab it.
If you're only reading 8" disks do you still need to reroute anything? Other then power.
I don't know either nor give a rip. I just know they weren't making peecee clones.
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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 6:06 AM PST David Riley wrote:
>On Feb 14, 2013, at 2:02, Chris Tofu <rampaginggreenhulk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
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>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 10:40 PM PST Eric Smith wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure when "then" was, but I think you've confused the company "eMachines" with the older UMAX/Supermac brand. eMachines was from their inception a PC clone company. Through acquisitions, eMachines was most recently an Acer brand, but has just been discontinued recently.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> Nuh uh. The original emachines at least sold mac cards. Check ebay. I still have my old Futura SX video card stuck in a IIcx.
>
>I have a Futura SX II in my basement along with the
>original driver floppies. I have no idea whether the e-Machines
>that made it is in any way related to the later one that Apple
>sued when they started making candy-colored PC clones;
>my suspicion is no, since I also have a vague (possibly
>false) recollection that the Mac card company got
>absorbed by Radius some time around the PowerPC
>transition.
>
>
>- Dave
