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Current Do Not Buy/Bid list (eBay) - STOLEN VCF Archives Items

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

The follow items listed for sale on eBay are STOLEN from the Vintage Computer Festival Archives: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOS-Technology-KIM-1-Single-Board-Computer-Revision… http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Factory-Sealed-Scrapyard-Dog-Video-Game-Atari-7… http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Commodore-Amiga-A-500-Personal-Home-Compute… http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Atari-1040STF-1040ST-W-Power-on-Mouse-Box-C… http://www.ebay.com/itm/National-Semiconductor-ISP-8P-301N-SC-MP-Low-Cost-D… http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Cromemco-CS-1-System-One-Computer-W-Manual-… http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ohio-Scientific-Challenger-8P-Computer-Rare… http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-NorthStar-Horizon-Z-80A-Computer-Rare-W-Woo… http://www.ebay.com/itm/IMSAI-PCS-80-10-S-100-Rare-Cromemco-Blitz-Computer-… These items have been reported to eBay as stolen. An open lawsuit for conversion, fraud, and racketeering has been filed in San Joaquin County Superior Court and these items are the subject of that lawsuit. Any sales from eBay seller "tvrsales" (Tri-Valley Recycling, Stockton, California) will be traced and any buyers added as defendants to the suit. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

11 years, 7 months

Vintage Computer Festival Archvies STOLEN by Tri-Valley

by ball.of.john＠gmail.com

>I encourage everyone to read through the letters and especially the >affidavit to see the absolute criminality of these vultures. I am >continuing to upload more material as I have time, but the basic story is >there. > >The court system was absolutely useless, as were the police and sheriff. >I am having to sue for conversion, fraud, racketeering, unjust enrichment, >and probably other charges as I continue my research. > >I am here to tell you right now: Anyone on the receiving end of my stolen >property is going to be entangled in this mess one way or another. >Therefore, my suggestion to you is that YOU SHOULD NOT BID ON OR BUY >ANYTHING FROM TRI-VALLEY RECYCLING IN STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA. If you do end >up with my stuff, you will become a part of the lawsuit in some way. My interpretation is: tough noogies. You spent half a year not paying bills or trying in any possible way to relocate your belongings. It was excuse after excuse after excuse followed by backlash. If you considered these computers so valueable you should of been putting a LOT more effort into cramming it into a storage locker or a spare bedroom. Up here in Canada (I guess that's the key phrase because who knows just how much different the laws are but at least up here it's nationally accepted that....)if you don't pay the rent and you're that far due you can forget about whatever you left there. The landlord can switch the locks and now claim it as his own and the courts will laugh you out the door. Just because you decided to play lazy does not mean that we can't bid in fear of a pretty weak court case. If anything I advocate for more people to bid on it because we at least know it came from a reputable person.

11 years, 7 months

Vintage Computer Festival Archvies STOLEN by Tri-Valley

by ball.of.john＠gmail.com

>spare bedroom??!? >Can I move into your house? >Maybe put my HOUSE into one of your spare bedrooms? >Just the stuff that he hauled out from my closing office >would fill three normal "spare bedroom"s. Okay, I didn't realize that when he meant a warehouse he literally meant a warehouse crammed wall to wall and just about as high as you could go with with essentially everything. I was rather blown away by the photographs when I finally saw them on Flickr ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/2533385026/sizes/o/in/photostream/ ). It's like an episode of hoarders only things are a bit more organized. I'll agree that at that point a spare bedroom will be the leasy likely place to store stuff. >In the US this is a matter of state law, which of course varies from >state to state. In California, the landlord can NOT take simply >possession of the tenant's belongings. The eviction process involves >having the Sheriff seize the tenant's belongings. If the property is >believed to be worth more than $700, it has to be sold at a public sale >(auction) at a time and place published in a general circulation >newspaper. I rather doubt that eBay qualifies. See California Civil >Code section 1980-1991, especially section 1988. > >If the landlord takes possession of the belongings or disposes of them >in a different manner than prescribed by law, it is theft, conversion, >and/or unjust enrichment. > >[These are my personal opinions, which are worth exactly what you've >paid for them. I am not a lawyer, and this isn't legal advice.]// OH! Okay, so there is some reason to complain then. Pardon my previously posted opinion.

11 years, 7 months

Forgot to post here...16Kx1 DRAM NOS at Goldmine

by cclist＠sydex.com

I posted this on Erik Klein's forum awhile back, but also meant to post this here. Electronics Goldmine has new 2-per-package MCM4517P12 16Kx1 DRAMs for $1 for two ICs. These are the single-supply version of the 4116 3-rail devices and I believe, entirely pin-compatible. Might be a good deal for someone looking for replacement DRAM. http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G19239 Cheers, Chuck

11 years, 7 months

Vintage Computer Festival Archvies STOLEN by Tri-Valley

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

> My interpretation is: tough noogies. Your opinion is noted, ignorant as it is, based on assumptions, incomplete facts, and a callous disregard for and improper understanding of property rights (that apply equally in Canada as well as here in America, ancient law that goes back to the Magna Charta). I understand there are people like you, who will look at a situation like this and say stuff like, "tough noogies"(?) I realize you would probably say the same thing to your grandmother--damn the facts. You're the same type of people who believe it's OK to scam someone out of their property by intentionally withholding court notices they are required to send, then collude to deprive the rightful owner of any possible remedy because you know you have an insider in the court who will make everything work in your favor. I'm not concerned with people like you, inasmuch as I can avoid doing any business with you so that when things don't work out I can be guaranteed my rights will be observed and a business relationship can be wound down honorably and with integrity. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

11 years, 7 months

Vintage Computer Festival Archvies STOLEN by Tri-Valley Recycling in Stockton - now selling on eBay as seller "tvrsales"

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Zane Healy wrote: > Something that worries me is what went into the dumpster that they > apparently had on site. All of my shelving, desks, benches--the infrastructure of the archive-- and other items that the undiscerning scrapper would consider "junk". Thank you for your concern. > One also has to wonder how badly Sellam had pissed off the landlords > prior to this point. Reading through the email and documents last night > I was reminded of a conversation I'd had earlier in the night with my > seven year old. As regrettable as it is, the choices he made had > consequences. You're now comparing me to your 7 year old? You're unbelievable. How do I put this as politely as possible: you are making a lot of fart noises right now. As far as TVR, they claimed at the hearing it cost them $61,000 to move 200 pallets 3 miles across town. Almost all of the pallets were stacked and ready to go. They needed to stack maybe 5 more pallets of stuff, and discarded the rest (the "junk"). When they claimed this I knew they were lying and thus colluding with the landlords in their crime and therefore complicit. Four days before the hearing I had a 40 minute conversation with the operations manager of TVR and they knew full well the story AND the fact that there was already an open lawsuit against the landlords. I offered them the money they claim they paid the landlords for the stuff and to not add them to the lawsuit but they rejected it. Right there they opted to collude with the landlords. They are guilty. Now I will prove it. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

11 years, 7 months

Vintage Computer Festival Archvies STOLEN by Tri-Valley

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Eric Smith wrote: > In the US this is a matter of state law, which of course varies from > state to state. In California, the landlord can NOT take simply > possession of the tenant's belongings. The eviction process involves > having the Sheriff seize the tenant's belongings. If the property is > believed to be worth more than $700, it has to be sold at a public sale > (auction) at a time and place published in a general circulation > newspaper. I rather doubt that eBay qualifies. See California Civil > Code section 1980-1991, especially section 1988. Actually, the threshold amount is $300, and before it can be sold at auction the landlord must have already: 1) Noticed the tennant of the restoration of the real property 2) Noticed the tennant of any personal property left on the property 3) >>>Allowed the tennant 15 days to recover the property<<<a 4) Noticed the tennant of the sale of any personal items remaining after the initial 15 days *and give them 15 days additional to recover the property upon payment of all storage fees incurred by the landlord* before it is actually sold off The landlords did exactly none of this. Even after I plainly and explicitly and thoroughly educated them on the law through the letters I wrote (which I posted for all to read) including footnotes to the actual statutes. Even after they sent me (an illegible) notice of the sale, they still refused to allow me to get my stuff, even after I offered to pay the storage costs as required under the code. They wanted me to pay additional amounts to which they were not entitled. Note for #3: by the time I received notice that I was locked out it was 4 days before the mandatory 15 days I am to be given by default under statute. The landlords never sent notice to my address of record but instead sent it to the building, where I never received any mail, which never had mail service and didn't even have a proper address until one was added for the purposes of the eviction. Thus, I never received notice and the landlords failed in their duty to notify me. This is all in my affidavit. > If the landlord takes possession of the belongings or disposes of them > in a different manner than prescribed by law, it is theft, conversion, > and/or unjust enrichment. Eric is obviously someone who has taken the time to study the law. Thank you, Eric. And as Eric mentioned, these laws vary by state/jurisdiction, so you may have a different set of laws involved where you live, in which case I can say I'm sorry for you. At least in California we have these protections on the books, not that they are strictly adhered to in some places where the rule of law is obviously not as paramount as personal connections. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

11 years, 7 months

Vintage Computer Festival Archvies STOLEN by Tri-Valley

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

What some folks are missing is a sense of the timeline. This dragged out over 5 months, in which time I tried every possible way under the Sun to get access to the warehouse after I'd been inappropriately locked out (landlords failed to give proper, timely notice) including OFFERING TO PAY THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF BACK RENT, the money of which was laid out on the counter of their secretary, counted in her hands, but was rejected after she called her bosses and was inexplicably instructed not to take the money. Read Uniform Commercial Code section 3-306(b) and then tell me I didn't pay them. This is all in my affidavit. I only went to court after I exhausted my private administrative remedies and the landlords began to threaten to sell my stuff, fully in violation of my rights and California statutes of which I thoroughly educated them. The landlords brought an insider to the court with them (as they did to every court appearance) who obviously helped throw the matter in their favor. Yes, yes, of course I'm going to say that, but if you only knew. Learning about the corruption in San Joaquin County courts is not difficult--google will tell you all (that is publicly available). What do you do when you're an outsider and you're up against an entire "good old boy" network? Never mind, don't think about it, it might hurt your fragile brains. All I can say is that when your options are to capitulate to someone's unlawful demands or else say bye bye to your life's work, what choice are you going to make? I was able to move out about 15-20% of the collection before being locked out again. Read the affidavit as to why I could not finish on time. Yes, it was my fault for not getting it all out in time--woulda/shoudla/coulda. Yes, I could have asked for help sooner. Yes, maybe I should have ignored the unchecked flooding in the warehouse that was destroying part of my documents collection and just continued to pack the loose items. Etc. However, I don't see how that negates my property rights, and anyone who has an accurate understanding of the law doesn't either. I know more about California commercial rental and property law than most attorneys now, so to those who want to pontificate lawyerly, please keep your uninformed opinions to yourself. I am, however, open to input from people who actually study law and can match or surpass my knowledge. My affidavit was never rebutted. An unrebutted affidavit stands as truth in the record. This is an ancient legal maxim. These guys have implicitly admitted their guilt. However, they have the shield of attorneys and insiders who know the judges well enough to sway the outcome in their favor. Yes, I understand: that only happens on TV, not in real life. Of course. While all this was going on, I was also fighting against my purported "mortgage lender" who was unlawfully foreclosing on my house, and was actively assisting others in a similar situation. I was supposed to be out of MY house last Tuesday, but a last minute bankruptcy filing has kept shelter over my and my families head--for now. I can comfortably say I didn't get much sleep last year. At least walk a few feet in my shoes if you can before you feel the urge to lecture me. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

11 years, 7 months

Apple Lisa is sold

by sales＠elecplus.com

The Apple Lisa has been purchased. Cindy Croxton _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6034 - Release Date: 01/15/13

11 years, 7 months

HP 12c

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 8:19 PM PST Chris Tofu wrote: > > > > > >------------------------------ >On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 6:33 PM PST Chuck Guzis wrote: > >>On 12/16/2012 05:39 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >> >> What would be the difference, internally, between it and other horizontal models? >> >>Of what vintage? A modern HP12C has very little in common with a >>vintage HP16C. >> >>--Chuck >> >> >> >I didn know that. I bought it at Wallyworld say 10 years ago. Ill spill the beans. I had aspirations of turning it into something scientific. Rom swap or what have you. Naive I guess. Anyone want to make an offer? Barely used.

11 years, 7 months

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