Hi Chuck,
I just reviewed the datasheets. The pinout appears *mostly* compatible -
appart from the fact that the 4116 pin 8 wants +12V, and the 4517 only
+5V. The other power supply pins have changed to N.C., so it could be
done with a small board change or a small wire by each IC.
I was just considering that because I have a machine with 64 x 4116 (and
maybe some more in two or three other boards, don't want to look
now...), and I would be interested in reducing power dissipation.
It may go to 170 mW per chip, ... but while MOSTEK say their 4116 needs
up to 1 W max, I just see the TMS4116-20 more probably has 462 mW. So it
would save me... 19 W at best. Or less, because the unused power rails
cannot simple be turned off - or more, because the PSU is a rather
large, old, linear type.
Now well - I don't have time; the originals are soldered in, so don't
want to ruin the boards anyway. Nor change their original state more
than needed for actual repairs. I've already replaced one defective IC
of these, so I could at least test compatibility...
Has anybody ever replaced memory ICs to save power?
Btw., I *might* have to stick with 1 bit RAM in this machine because it
might mask individual bits in hardware, IIRC.
Kind regards, Joerg
On 16.01.2013 06:07, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:43:39 -0800
> From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com>
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Forgot to post here...16Kx1 DRAM NOS at Goldmine
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>
> I posted this on Erik Klein's forum awhile back, but also meant to post
> this here.
>
> Electronics Goldmine has new 2-per-package MCM4517P12 16Kx1 DRAMs for $1
> for two ICs. These are the single-supply version of the 4116 3-rail
> devices and I believe, entirely pin-compatible.
>
> Might be a good deal for someone looking for replacement DRAM.
>
> http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G19239
>
> Cheers,
> Chuck
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I recently acquired (3) NOS H62EPC1 keyboards for Hitachi's 6800
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If you have an need for one or more, let me know off-list.
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"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
I have one very large old hard drive here, made by DEC. The front face
plate is missing.
The drive inside says R82-HDA. PN 70-21170-01
The complete unit is an RA82, I believe.
Looks like the one in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfskSzKBnWA
Except for the face plate, it appears complete.
This unit is on rails, and came out of an old server years ago.
It will have to ship on a pallet.
Make offers?
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
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On 16 January 2013 16:34, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote
>
> You need to stop travelling down this road you are on, and get real legal
> representation. You do not want to be threatening a Corporation such as
> eBay without a good team of Lawyers behind you. Honestly my fear is that
> your actions already done irreparable harm to any chance you might have of
> getting your property back. Please seek out Legal Representation before you
> also do irreparable harm to your life as well.
>
I have to concur. From a UK perspective: Without going into details,
we are currently in legal battles getting money back off someone, and
whilst, so far, we've done everything ourselves (successfully, if
slowly) the defendant has been representing himself too. The judges
have for the most part been sympathetic and have taken our lack of
experience into account. The moment however that he does find himself
a solicitor willing to take on his case (he had one drop out already
once we explained matters to them), then we'll have to do the same.
I've dealt with the professionals in the past, and they are mostly
akin to playground bullies, and delight at stomping on the amateurs.
Don't let yourself get into that situation.
Rob
Catalog number 26-3501, batteries work, powers on, basic arithmetic
functions work. I have not tested it further.
There is some darkening of the display, mostly on the top left side.
Includes Radio Shack vinyl case and fold-up TRS-80 Pocket Computer
Reference Card.
$100 plus shipping takes it away.
Well packed, the weight will be about 2 pounds.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
AOL IM elcpls
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eBay seller id "tvrsales" is currently selling property STOLEN from the
Vintage Computer Festival.
If you are planning on buying anything of a vintage computer nature from
eBay seller "tvrsales" in Stockton, California, please know that you are
most likely BIDDING ON STOLEN PROPERTY.
The VCF Archives were STOLEN by Tri-Valley Recycling (eBay ID "tvrsales")
in cahoots with the landlords of the building where it was sold.
The sordid tale can be read about through lawsuit material already on my
website for download:
http://vintagetech.com/download/lawsuit/
I encourage everyone to read through the letters and especially the
affidavit to see the absolute criminality of these vultures. I am
continuing to upload more material as I have time, but the basic story is
there.
The court system was absolutely useless, as were the police and sheriff.
I am having to sue for conversion, fraud, racketeering, unjust enrichment,
and probably other charges as I continue my research.
I am here to tell you right now: Anyone on the receiving end of my stolen
property is going to be entangled in this mess one way or another.
Therefore, my suggestion to you is that YOU SHOULD NOT BID ON OR BUY
ANYTHING FROM TRI-VALLEY RECYCLING IN STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA. If you do end
up with my stuff, you will become a part of the lawsuit in some way. So
if you don't want to have legal issues to deal with, stay away from
anything they are selling. I think I have made myself redundantly clear
here.
The full story will come out in time. Right now I'm re-grouping for my
next legal attack. Yes, I could use assistance, especially if you have a
law background and can do research for me. Sure, I could use money, so
send some if you got it. I don't need attorneys. Attorneys are useless
in the capacity that I am acting. I'm doing this the proper way: myself.
My entire career as a computer historian has been destroyed by these
hyenas. Now I have to sit here and watch as they auction off 25 years of
my life's work piece by piece. Don't be caught in the frenzy when the
lion shows up.
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Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.
Greetings,
I am a teco enthusiast too. Saw you made some patched to Cantrel's video
teco. Do you have a latest version with any patches?
Thanks.
Blake McBride
https://picasaweb.google.com/106111250846948401252/Honeywell
Pics of the Honeywell terminals, for those that asked.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
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All the websites on the classiccmp server that have their own domain name have been migrated. Please test & advise. You can start modifying content again.
I'm now working on all the subdirectory websites of classiccmp.org, will let you know when they are done so you can again start modifying any content.
Mailman will be done last.
J