Rich end of AOLMsgPart_0_1ad99453-4a48-41fb-9c5f-7c3bef00fa23 ard noted:
In article <CAA3rs2022A1OMd4PHTRc40Y1bW53Jc3ZJKc3h2AwTbf4JKw71Q at mail.gmail.com>,
Adrian Stoness <tdk.knight at gmail.com> writes:
> they would find a way to focre u to upgrade to a windows 8 machean
I'm not saying they will, but based on their current logic the conversation could go along these lines:
"OK, you have a machine that shipped with a valid OEM license for DOS 3.30. Did you get the original media with that? No? Well, for a valid license transfer to occur you need to get the original media. If they were destroyed, unreadable or not given to you then the license was not validly transferred, and you would need to reacquire a license. We no longer sell these licenses, but you may be able to find someone with validly licensed Retail MS-DOS software for sale."
My guess is that they probably won't care unless you ask them (most companies wouldn't care in this circumstance), but then again sometimes they do - or somebody in legal decides they need to justify their job's existence. MS is getting very creative with limiting the newer-not-relevant copies of Windows, though my guess is that this is to give them an out if someone calls complaining that their copy won't activate.
Dave end of AOLMsgPart_0_609026c9-93ed-4a79-957c-a4628556f71a said:
They all came with MS-DOS so there shouldn't be any
Given the age I doubt that you'll run into problems, but do keep in mind that this is Microsoft. I'm pretty sure that they have a department tasked with inventing "license issues" whenever possible to increase revenue based on some of the things that have come out of there - they're pretty creative.
I'll be in Mountainview, CA Tueday and Wednesday (July 31, August 1) for
an interview at NASA. Anyone want to meet up and talk about stuff?
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:33:39 +0100 (BST), ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony
> I think I've mentioend this before, but both torque and work have the
> dimensions of force * distance (e.g. Newtons * metres). But while it is
> correct to say that a newton metre of work is a joule, it is incorrect to
> do the same for torque. What is the fundamental difference?
The metre in torque is the length of the moment arm, and mere torque
cannot be work since it is a static quantity and corresponds to the
force in work. To get work from torque you have to multiply by radians,
the angle of rotation over which the torque is applied. Similarly,
power, being work per unit of time, from a motor-car engine is
proportional to torque * rpm.
Not very clearly expressed :-( but you get the idea I hope.
I managed to get the two DEC cabinets into the attic. Turned out I
could just handle them by myself, without removing any rivets
(emphasis on "just" as in "barely").
I've now got some of the Unibus PDP's in my hobby room (a /05, a /24
and a /84), so I figured I'd start with the latest model of the
three.The 11/84 has a H7202KA power supply (H7200 + H7211 + H7213).
All voltages look ok with a multimeter, but on my scope, the +5V VBB
supply looks like a sick puppy. It looks like a sawtooth, with a
period of 170 msec (ca. 6 Hz), and an amplitude of about 400 mV. Add
to this a peak of 300 mV for 30 msec at the beginning, and a spike of
-500 mV at the end, and there's a peak-to-peak difference of 1.2
volts. There's also some random spikes. In the end, the waveform looks
5.5v -> |-_ |-_
| | | |
| |__ | |__
| --__ | | --_|
5.0v -> | --|_ | --__ |
| --__ | --__ |
| --__ | | --__ |
| || | ||
4.5v -> / |/ |/
The measurements were taken with the power distribution board and
minimum load module plugged in; I don't want to plug any other modules
in while the power looks like this. Is there any documentation
available on this power supply? Or, does anyone have an idea as to
what's going on here? The 6 Hz frequency strikes me as odd...
I know this issue well. ?We are getting ready to sell the house and move so the collection is being readied for local sales.
I've personally been collecting since 1982 when the IBM PC started replacing earlier computers in shops and homes. ?I found I could now pick up the systems that before I could not afford. ?I never tried to get them all, just the ones I really liked and some are even NOS.
These are a lot heavier than I remembered! ?
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