test-drb October 2012

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Missing footnotes [was RE: Our Museum Need a special help..]

by RichA＠vulcan.com

From: Rich Alderson Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:40 AM > The earliest Buddhist texts are written in a Middle Indic[2] language Oh, crap. There was only going to be 1 footnote anyway, which I forgot to include: [1] "Middle Indic" is a designation for the Indo-Aryan[2] languages of the period roughly between 500 BCE and 800 CE, descended from Old Indic languages contemporaneous with Vedic, Epic Sanskrit, and Classical Sanskrit. The Modern Indic languages are descended from various of the Middle Indic languages. [2] This is a linguistic classification, prior to the racialist adoption of the word "Aryan" to mean something entirely different. I decided in composing the 1st note that the 2nd was needed. Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer Vulcan, Inc. 505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900 Seattle, WA 98104 mailto:RichA at vulcan.com mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/

13 years, 1 month

Our Museum Need a special help..

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

what?? Top posted because its sent from my stupid phone Doc. When did I ever blame google for anything?? ------------------------------ On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 5:29 PM PDT Doc Shipley wrote: > <Top posting to preserve the prior top posting> > > Chris, you are SO busted. This post absolutely puts the lie to your >"Google made me do it" quoting defense. > > Color me trolled. > > > Doc > > >On 10/10/12 4:18 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >> >> You werent aware that the expression simply represents a persons >> inability to decipher, and the inability to care? The second part >> doesnt apply entirely to me though, I am very interested in some >> languages, namely German, ancient Hebrew, koine Greek, Russian, >> Japanese, Chinese...roughly in that order (wish me luck!). Not loads >> of interest in Romance languages, but did take Latin and French in >> h.s. No I didnt pay very good attention either. Il es, tu es, je >> suis, la fanetre, le pupitre. Look right? >> ------------------------------ On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 8:42 AM PDT Kevin >> Monceaux wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 05:01:38PM -0700, Chris Tofu wrote: >> >>> C: It's all Greek to me! >> >> Greek looks more like: >> >> ? ??????????? ???????? ?????? ????? ?? ? ??????????? ??? ?? ???? >> ??????? ???? ?? ???? ??????? ????????? ??? ?????. >> >> Well, ancient Greek at least. :-) >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://Lassie.RawFedDogs.net >> http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX >> >> What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! Errare >> humanum est, ignoscere caninum. >> >

13 years, 1 month

cluelessness, Re: Our Museum Need a special help..

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message ----- > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:25:01 -0400 > From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> > > On 10/10/2012 11:06 PM, Ian King wrote: >> >> Dave, please don't color "most of us" as "clueless". This sort of >> self-flagellation feeds a tired stereotype that serves no one. -- Ian > > > ...except that, in the general public outside of academia, it's damn > accurate. I'm sorry if I offended you, in any case. There is a REASON > that many people in other countries have the opinions they do about us. > > -Dave -----Reply -------- Lots of folks like you also believe that there are REASONS why people have the opinions they do about Jews, Mexicans, Muslims, people with black skins or blond hair, etc. etc... Precious irony... ;-) m

13 years, 1 month

8 bits and change

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Does anyone remember a zine from the early 1990s called "8 Bit and Change"? I found several issues of it in my heap-o-stuff and was wondering if I should pass it on or archive it myself. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

13 years, 1 month

cluelessness, Re: Our Museum Need a special help..

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message ----- > Message: 16 > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:00:53 -0700 (PDT) > From: geneb <geneb at deltasoft.com> > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Ian King wrote: > >> I get really tired of such meaningless generalizations. >> > Ian, the problem is that the dumbest of us is also the loudest of us and > the smartest of us can't be bothered to spend the energy required to shut > them up. :) > > g. ----- Reply ----- Well, if "loudest" = 'number of posts per day/week not related to CCs' you may have a point... ;-)

13 years, 1 month

datasheetarchive.com weirdness

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Has anyone recently tried to download data sheets from datasheetarchive.com? I keep getting sent round and round in circles. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

13 years, 1 month

Our Museum Need a special help..

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

> QUINZE MIL FLOPPIES??? Que voces vao fazer com tanto disquete assim?! He's obviously building a 21.6 Gigabyte RAID Array using a proven storage medium with a long track record, rather than these modern hocus-pocus terabyte drives that use pure magic to record anything and you never know where on the media it will actually land. Won't hold all of bitsavers by any means, but will hold like an eighth of it. 15000 floppies, times 1.44 Mbyte each, gives 21.6 Gigabytes. Oh, wait, he needs at least one drive for redundancy. Actual capacity = 14999 * 1.44 Mbytes. The 15000th drive carries the parity stripe, just in case any of the other drives ever fail. Tim.

13 years, 1 month

WATFOR for IBM 7040

by spedraja＠gmail.com

Hello. Im' playing actually with diverse emulators for the IBM 709x and the software available for them (IBSYS and CTSS). Fun and instructive (I'm using it to play with COBOL and FORTRAN at present). Now I should like to go one step beyond. I have doubts about the compatibility but I should like to know if exists some request for the WATFOR compiler for the IBM 7040 to the Waterloo University or whoever would be the owner of the rights of this software.. -- Gracias | Regards Saludos - Greetings - Freundliche Gr??e - Salutations -- Sergio Pedraja twitter: @sergio_pedraja ----- No crea todo lo que ve, ni crea que est? vi?ndolo todo

13 years, 1 month

Burroughs System/V Series emulator

by stevew＠ka6s.com

-------------- Written by MikeSdm561 at torfree.net > > >Hi Steve, > >wrong Mike, but that's OK. > >What I have is the main nixie and indicator display and control console on >the front of the CPU cabinet, under the clock at the very right of the >picture below; I even still have a picture somewhere of me standing in front >of it compiling one of my programs. > >I think the SPO you're talking about is the teleprinter on >the desk to the left of it: > >http://www.smecc.org/burroughs-images/burrou4.jpg > >(The other) mike. I stand embarrassingly corrected TWICE! The "wrong" Mike part is explainable in that I get cctalk as a digest and messed up in the Copy & Paste. The second part was me reading "control console" and assuming you meant the teleprinter. So Sorry! I spent a lot of time with a B2700 learning Fortran. The Glendale, CA Board of Ed had a B2700 that was used by the Junior college for Cobol/Fortran classes back in the mid-70s. A buddy from High School got a job there as a Sys Admin so got to spend a fair amount of time around it. Eventually they upgraded to a B6800 system. Eventually I went to work in Goleta on the Small systems, then got transferred to Pasadena where the Medium systems were built. I was there as they were debugging the B2900. ;-) Very fond memories. Steve

13 years, 1 month

disk flaws, classic vs. modern

by saquinn624＠aol.com

Message: 19 Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 03:51:12 -0600 From: Eric Smith <eric at brouhaha.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: disk flaws, classic vs. modern Message-ID: <50715090.2020207 at brouhaha.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 10/07/2012 01:38 AM, jim s wrote: > recently I had a system with a 1.5tb seagate grow a count of > "uncorrectable offline sector count" errors. [...] To complicate > things a bit this was part of a LVM raid ext3 raid 5 set, When you have a drive go bad in a RAID 5, it's best to pull the drive, put a new one in its place, and start a rebuild. That's the point of using RAID 5. Trying to recover data from the failing drive is mostly a waste of time. Of course, if the drive wasn't in a RAID 5, mirror, etc., you wouldn't have that option. My experience is that once it starts it just gets worse, especially with the newer drives (>100 or so GB) - junk the drive and put a new one in. In fact, based on what I've seen and heard I'd replace more of the drives once you get the bad drive replaced and the array rebuilt, especially if the drives are from the same batch. Marginal drives can and do go out during rebuilds. Of course, if the data on the array isn't critical then this becomes much more flexible- but if it is then you don't want to have your second drive go at some point in the near future, then the third give up while you're attempting to rebuild the array after the second disk's failure. Any reason you're recovering data from the drive rather than rebuilding? I'd go along with Eric here - if you rebuild then you're starting with a known-good array, rather than potentially having errors in your replacement drive. This isn't just anecdotes, either - I've seen numbers. That's one reason I've gone to mirrors on my few critical installations.

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test-drb October 2012