test-drb October 2012

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General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message ----- > Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:00:06 -0700 (PDT) > From: Tom Sparks <tom_a_sparks at yahoo.com.au> .. lots of trimmage... > I do bash: > Apple fanboys: the products they worship are overpriced sh*t > MS windows fanboys: think there stuff is the best thing since sliced bread > I have be a member of both groups, > I have seen the light (and no I am not a linux/ubuntu fanboy[1]) > I am a quad-platform user (ubuntu/linux/android, amigaOS, MS DOS[2], > Windows) I have to ask: Why? What makes it worth the time you spend on it? What purpose does it serve except to expose your bigotry? As it happens, I don't think I've ever actually run across anyone who thinks MS stuff is the best thing since sliced bread, but there's no shortage of *nix users who believe their stuff is... > PS: why cant you scroll down to the bottom of the message and type there? I think if you put on your glasses and/or improved your reading skills somewhat you'd see that I did exactly that (although I happen to think it's a pointless and cumbersome relic of the golden days of Usenet glory...) And why can't you learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to use an apostrophe? ;-D > [1] I do have some ubuntu fanboy aspects to me, but its only to sate there > is alternative operating system that dose not cost an arm and a leg > tom More precious irony ;-) m

12 years, 2 months

General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message ----- From: <cctalk-request at classiccmp.org> To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:14 PM Subject: cctalk Digest, Vol 110, Issue 24 > Message: 29 > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:14:27 +0000 (UTC) > From: Alexey Toptygin <alexeyt at freeshell.org> >> Lots of folks like you also believe that there are REASONS why people >> have >> the opinions they do about Jews, Mexicans, Muslims, people with black >> skins >> or blond hair, etc. etc... >> >> Precious irony... ;-) > > That was totally uncalled for. Dave was describing a sterotype about a > group OF WHICH HE IS A MEMBER, you are comparing him to racists who blame > all the worlds problems on a group of OUTSIDERS. This is completely > different. I think you need to apologise. > > Alexey ----- Reply: As a matter of fact I see a fair bit of that on this list as well, by the same group of regulars: stereotypical judgement and blaming of OUTSIDERS, i.e. ignorant 'lusers' who don't know or care how their computers work, the intricacies of TCP/IP or their operating system, who top post, use M$ software, etc. etc., and are perhaps busy running businesses, performing brain operations, whatever, instead... And Dave is of course implying that he's NOT a member of the group he's disparaging; after all, HE knows that they speak Portuguese in Brazil! As a matter of fact he is in fact echoing and defending the stereotypical view of "people in other countries," i.e. OUTSIDERS... (and thus perhaps even offending some of "them" ;-) So, it's OK to insult and offend members of a certain group with this sort of stereotypical judgement as long as you yourself are a member of that group (albeit presumably one of the exceptions who doesn't fit the stereotype...)? As long as I'm an African-American myself it's OK for me to say "yeah, we really are inferior somehow, and there's a REASON why folks believe that about us"? In that case I do apologize; I naively thought that derogatory stereotypes were sort of inappropriate regardless of the source. m BTW, I have a Brazilian girlfriend, so I not only know that one speaks Portuguese there but I'm also intimately acquainted with the Brazilian wax look...

12 years, 2 months

Motorola EXORset - need software

by jack.rubin＠ameritech.net

I just received a very nice Motorola EXORset 110 with docs but no software. Does anyone have disks or images for XDOS and the associated development tools? Thanks, Jack KC9HVE

12 years, 2 months

cctalk being indexed (again)

by barythrin＠gmail.com

That's not a good thing?

12 years, 2 months

Things with current mailing addresses on them

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

In my storage unit there keeps bubbling up stuff that author Jerry Pournelle was sent to review for Byte Magazine. When I sell them, instead of giving people the actual letters and such (which has Jerry's still current home address), I give them a censored photocopy. What should I do with these originals? I've been building a small file of them for the past few years. Should I just wait until Pournelle dies and then unload them on Ebay? -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

12 years, 2 months

Digital asset management was disk image server

by tom_a_sparks＠yahoo.com.au

I am think of setting up a Digital asset management system for my disk images I am wondering what DAE system would you recommend? --- tom_a_sparks "It's a nerdy thing I like to do" Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Ubuntu wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tomsparks 3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 Premium Edition, AF 2012 Plus Edition, Sam440 AOS 4.1.2, Roland DXY-1300 pen plotter, Cutok DC330 cutter/pen plotter Wanted: RiscOS system, GEOS system (C64/C128), Atari ST, Apple Macintosh (6502/68k/PPC only)

12 years, 2 months

Ebay Cray T94

by elson＠pico-systems.com

> > From: "TeoZ" <teoz at neo.rr.com> > > Power supply requirements are a bit out there for home based collectors, and > what software would you run on it (I assume everything was custom per > order)? > Right, on the nameplate is shows 68 KW electronic dissipation, then you have to supply water chilling for a 68 KW load. Then,. you need a pretty massive support computer to run this thing, I think the last ones were VAX 8000-series machines. They had a stock OS, booted from the support computer, which also provided disk, tape, graphics, etc. So, for your typical US home service, you'd probably need a 200 KVA service, at 120/240 V that would be 833 Amps. You'd also need a cooling tower in your back yard that would send a cloud of vapor all over your neighborhood. Jon

12 years, 2 months

Microsoft ICE for compositing scans: a success story

by legalize＠xmission.com

On my final trip to The Black Hole, I picked up some more Tektronix documentation. One of these was a photocopy of the manual for the 4953/4954 Graphics Tablet. This manual combines the instruction and service manual in one with circuit diagrams and descriptions in the back of the manual. However, since this was a photocopy and not an original, the circuit diagrams were not available in their original size. The person who photocopied the manual had attempted to cover the diagrams with multiple photocopies of different parts of the oversize page. It was difficult to manually match up the different pages, if only just to identify the order in which they should appear in a scanned PDF of the manual. Instead I just fed the scans into Microsoft ICE, available as a free download: Microsoft ICE (Image Composite Editor) <http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/groups/ivm/ice/> The results speak for themselves. See the last three pages of the resulting PDF: <http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/tektronix/49xx/070-1791-01_4953_4954…> You can see that the person who photocopied the manual did miss a few bits of the schematics, but for the most part the schematic is now legible as a single diagram. Due to the blending that occurs at the edges of the individual images, Microsoft ICE will sometimes produce a grayscale image from the bilevel scans I use for making PDFs of manuals. So a little post processing in ImageMagick reduced the bit depth back down to 1 bit per pixel and converted the image to PDF for combining with the rest of the pages via pdftk. The command stream went roughly like this: convert composite.tif -monochrome -compression Group4 page.tif convert page.tif -density 600x600 page.pdf The -density argument tells the PDF file that the image was scanned at 600 dpi so that the composite page is shown at the same relative size to the other pages in a PDF viewer. It may be possible to combine these two commands into a single invocation of ImageMagick with identical results; I haven't tried that. I had previously used hugin, an open source image compositing program that has tutorials for compositing multiple scans like this. However, using hugin to do the same job was a very tedious, laborious and lengthy process. With MS ICE, it was a simple matter of drag-n-drop of the image files onto the application which it processed automatically to find the resulting composite. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

12 years, 2 months

Microsoft ICE for compositing scans: a success story

by legalize＠xmission.com

On my final trip to The Black Hole, I picked up some more Tektronix documentation. One of these was a photocopy of the manual for the 4953/4954 Graphics Tablet. This manual combines the instruction and service manual in one with circuit diagrams and descriptions in the back of the manual. However, since this was a photocopy and not an original, the circuit diagrams were not available in their original size. The person who photocopied the manual had attempted to cover the diagrams with multiple photocopies of different parts of the oversize page. It was difficult to manually match up the different pages, if only just to identify the order in which they should appear in a scanned PDF of the manual. Instead I just fed the scans into Microsoft ICE, available as a free download: Microsoft ICE (Image Composite Editor) <http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/groups/ivm/ice/> The results speak for themselves. See the last three pages of the resulting PDF: <http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/tektronix/49xx/070-1791-01_4953_4954…> You can see that the person who photocopied the manual did miss a few bits of the schematics, but for the most part the schematic is now legible as a single diagram. Due to the blending that occurs at the edges of the individual images, Microsoft ICE will sometimes produce a grayscale image from the bilevel scans I use for making PDFs of manuals. So a little post processing in ImageMagick reduced the bit depth back down to 1 bit per pixel and converted the image to PDF for combining with the rest of the pages via pdftk. The command stream went roughly like this: convert composite.tif -monochrome -compression Group4 -density 600x600 page.pdf The -density argument tells the PDF file that the image was scanned at 600 dpi so that the composite page is shown at the same relative size to the other pages in a PDF viewer. I had previously used hugin, an open source image compositing program that has tutorials for compositing multiple scans like this. However, using hugin to do the same job was a very tedious, laborious and lengthy process. With MS ICE, it was a simple matter of drag-n-drop of the image files onto the application which it processed automatically to find the resulting composite. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

12 years, 2 months

Ebay Cray T94

by saquinn624＠aol.com

>Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 21:25:24 -0700 (PDT) >From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> >To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: Ebay Cray T94 >Message-ID: <20121011212438.J78683 at shell.lmi.net> >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > >On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, jim s wrote: >> As to whether it is touchup paint, > >before buying a Cray, rap on each of the panels to check for Bondo? Crays are fast machines, so I suppose a system crash could be more destructive for them. Have you checked out CompFax? Maybe it was totaled after a particularly nasty segfault.

12 years, 2 months

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test-drb October 2012