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AW: cctalk Digest, Vol 96, Issue 18 More regional collectors

by gerhard.kreuzer＠liftoff.at

Hi, Here in Europe, we have still collectors, so maybe this is also for interst. My name is Gerhard and I collect DEC PDP8 and PDP11, www.compuseum.at Thanks for note our work here. With best regards Gerhard OE3GKC -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Im Auftrag von cctalk-request at classiccmp.org Gesendet: Samstag, 13. August 2011 19:00 An: cctalk at classiccmp.org Betreff: cctalk Digest, Vol 96, Issue 18 Send cctalk mailing list submissions to cctalk at classiccmp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cctalk-request at classiccmp.org You can reach the person managing the list at cctalk-owner at classiccmp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: WANTED: More regional collectors (Charles E. Fox) 2. Re: WANTED: More regional collectors (Jason McBrien) 3. Re: WANTED: More regional collectors (Pontus) 4. Re: WANTED: More regional collectors (SPC) 5. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5 (Liam Proven) 6. Non-revenue-producing (Was: cctech Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5 (Fred Cisin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 05:36:42 -0400 From: "Charles E. Fox" <cfox1 at cogeco.ca> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: WANTED: More regional collectors Message-ID: <338904$8c689t at fipsb03.cogeco.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:03 PM 12/08/2011, you wrote: >Hi, >I run the website http://oldcomputers.net >I get a lot of old computer systems offered to me for cheap or free, >but most I don't want - too big, or too far away to pay shipping. > >A while back I asked for other collectors who would be receptive to >these orphaned systems, and over 60 people have signed-up so far! > >But entire parts of the US are still open - the East coast is >covered pretty well, but west of the Mississippi River these is >almost no one until the coast. I've got Nathan in Iowa, Richard in >SLC, but that's about it. > >Send me your name, email, and what you collect, and I'll try to get >you some good stuff (some people got some REALLY good stuff). > >Thanks- >Steven Stengel >http://oldcomputers.net Please put me down for Windsor Ontario Canada. Charlie Fox Charles E. Fox 793 Argyle Rd. Windsor Ont. 519-254-4991 N8Y3j8 www.chasfoxvideo.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:14:58 -0400 From: Jason McBrien <jbmcb1 at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: WANTED: More regional collectors Message-ID: <CAHG8iGVmMREt-E_m_WiG7YOjisz87Bao4a3bkqjfGfPXYgcGXw at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Jason McBrien Warren, Michigan jbmcb1 at gmail.com On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Charles E. Fox <cfox1 at cogeco.ca> wrote: > At 09:03 PM 12/08/2011, you wrote: > >> Hi, >> I run the website http://oldcomputers.net >> I get a lot of old computer systems offered to me for cheap or free, but >> most I don't want - too big, or too far away to pay shipping. >> >> A while back I asked for other collectors who would be receptive to these >> orphaned systems, and over 60 people have signed-up so far! >> >> But entire parts of the US are still open - the East coast is covered >> pretty well, but west of the Mississippi River these is almost no one until >> the coast. I've got Nathan in Iowa, Richard in SLC, but that's about it. >> >> Send me your name, email, and what you collect, and I'll try to get you >> some good stuff (some people got some REALLY good stuff). >> >> Thanks- >> Steven Stengel >> http://oldcomputers.net >> > > Please put me down for Windsor Ontario Canada. > > Charlie Fox > > > Charles E. Fox > 793 Argyle Rd. Windsor Ont. > 519-254-4991 N8Y3j8 > www.chasfoxvideo.com > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:32:47 +0200 From: Pontus <pontus at update.uu.se> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: WANTED: More regional collectors Message-ID: <4E466EEF.7010506 at update.uu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed 2011-08-13 10:03, steven stengel skrev: > I will add you. > Everyone who replies to me will be added, whether or not I respond. > A reply is always nice :) I think I already signed up, but I'm in for sweden :) Regards, Pontus. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:15:14 +0200 From: SPC <spedraja at ono.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: WANTED: More regional collectors Message-ID: <CACytpF-bpavfQd7LW17bMyiKqwY2a36ni_pXS+80H7Xi4ujEVg at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I live in Spain. And I've received diverse items from the US during the last ten years (at least). Mostly without problems. Regards Sergio 2011/8/13 steven stengel <tosteve at yahoo.com> > I have 14 people in Europe. > You are on the list as NW UK. > > > --- On Sat, 8/13/11, Rob Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > From: Rob Jarratt <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> > > Subject: RE: WANTED: More regional collectors > > To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" < > cctalk at classiccmp.org>, cctech at classiccmp.org > > Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 12:47 AM > > Do you ever get asked about machines > > in Europe? Would it be worth extending > > the scope to cover Europe? If so I am in the UK. > > > > Regards > > > > Rob > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org > > [mailto:cctalk- > > > bounces at classiccmp.org] > > On Behalf Of steven stengel > > > Sent: 13 August 2011 02:04 > > > To: cctech at classiccmp.org > > > Subject: WANTED: More regional collectors > > > > > > Hi, > > > I run the website http://oldcomputers.net I get a lot of > > old computer > > systems > > > offered to me for cheap or free, but most I don't want > > - too big, or too > > far > > > away to pay shipping. > > > > > > A while back I asked for other collectors who would be > > receptive to these > > > orphaned systems, and over 60 people have signed-up so > > far! > > > > > > But entire parts of the US are still open - the East > > coast is covered > > pretty well, > > > but west of the Mississippi River these is almost no > > one until the coast. > > I've > > > got Nathan in Iowa, Richard in SLC, but that's about > > it. > > > > > > Send me your name, email, and what you collect, and > > I'll try to get you > > some > > > good stuff (some people got some REALLY good stuff). > > > > > > Thanks- > > > Steven Stengel > > > http://oldcomputers.net > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:27:02 +0100 From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: cctech Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5 Message-ID: <CAMTenCF9dJ9swKQsBhv_EkyXata1WHTwUN5tZ7wm2ZLZFYMYGQ at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On 12 August 2011 18:39, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >> On 7 August 2011 20:49, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >> > >> > It doesn't. Since nobody will pay me for my time, my time is by definti= >> on >> > worthless. >> >> I am in the same boat, but recently, I have managed to get several >> bits of paying work. > > Unfortunately, I've been informed by the powers-that-be that while it is > perfectly legal for me to use my workshop for my hobby, if I make money > using it, it's a business and I have to meet all sorts of safety > regualtions, such as fitting guards to machine tools, fume estraction > equipment to the soldring iron, etc. Needless to say this would cost me a > lot more that I could evr make from doing such jobs, so while I'll hapily > help you fix your machines, I cannot accept payment for it. > > >> >> So, in the garage & attic, I have: >> >> * 1 dead Apple iMac G5 20" with a well-known motherboard capacitor proble= >> m > > Do you know which capactiros are involved? Do you have replacements (or > at least know what they should be)? > >> * 1 dead Apple Mac SE/30, cause unknown, but I've bought a service manual > > I doubt that's what I'd call a 'service manual' but I can take a look at > the machine anyway... > > >> * 1 dead IBM ThinkPad 700, due to battery leakage, that needs to be >> stripped down and given a good clean and checked for damage > > OK... > >> * 1 dead Acorn RISC PC and a spare motherboard, which to be honest, I >> suspect I can sort out myself :) > > Pitty, that's the only one I have a schematic for. > >> >> Fancy having a crack at the two Macs and the "Butterfly"? Happy to pay >> for your time, and I'll deliver them to you. I'll buy and bring a set >> of replacement capacitors for the iMac. > > Quite possibly, but as I said, there'll be no charge. Alternatively I can > bring a small-ish toolkit and test gear to you and at least fix the > easier machines, and get some idea what needs to be done ot the others. > Let me know... OK, thanks, and I will do! -- Liam Proven ? Info & profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:31:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Non-revenue-producing (Was: cctech Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5 Message-ID: <20110813092714.U69797 at shell.lmi.net> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Unfortunately, I've been informed by the powers-that-be that while it is > perfectly legal for me to use my workshop for my hobby, if I make money > using it, it's a business and I have to meet all sorts of safety > regualtions, such as fitting guards to machine tools, fume estraction > equipment to the soldring iron, etc. Needless to say this would cost me a > lot more that I could evr make from doing such jobs, so while I'll hapily > help you fix your machines, I cannot accept payment for it. But that does NOT preclude you giving Tony an appropriate gift. Legally gifts may include currency, but that might look like non-compliance on Tony's part, so stick to interesting old hardware, or gift certificates to his suppliers. End of cctalk Digest, Vol 96, Issue 18 **************************************

12 years, 11 months

PDP 11/53 XXDP ZRQC?? on 5 1/4 floppy needed

by dj.taylor4＠verizon.net

Yes, I could use the RX33 format. Email me an image and I'll get PUTR to write it out. Use to be able to do this long ago, but I have changed computers so many times that I lost the ability. Doug At 07:50 PM 8/9/2011, you wrote: >On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Douglas Taylor <dj.taylor4 at verizon.net> wrote: > > Did you ever get the disk you were looking for? I need the same thing, I > > had one but accidentally over wrote it. > > > > Doug Taylor > >Are you looking for this in RX33 format? Given an RX33 image do you >have the capability to write it out to a physical floppy from a PC? >It shouldn't be too difficult to cook up a bootable RX33 XXDP image >using SIMH. Of course only a subset of the XXDP diagnostics will fit >on a single floppy so you need to tailor the set to the target system >and task at hand. > >-Glen

12 years, 11 months

WANTED: More regional collectors

by cfox1＠cogeco.ca

At 09:03 PM 12/08/2011, you wrote: >Hi, >I run the website http://oldcomputers.net >I get a lot of old computer systems offered to me for cheap or free, >but most I don't want - too big, or too far away to pay shipping. > >A while back I asked for other collectors who would be receptive to >these orphaned systems, and over 60 people have signed-up so far! > >But entire parts of the US are still open - the East coast is >covered pretty well, but west of the Mississippi River these is >almost no one until the coast. I've got Nathan in Iowa, Richard in >SLC, but that's about it. > >Send me your name, email, and what you collect, and I'll try to get >you some good stuff (some people got some REALLY good stuff). > >Thanks- >Steven Stengel >http://oldcomputers.net Please put me down for Windsor Ontario Canada. Charlie Fox Charles E. Fox 793 Argyle Rd. Windsor Ont. 519-254-4991 N8Y3j8 www.chasfoxvideo.com

12 years, 11 months

First IBM PC Commercial

by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

Anyone know where I can find the first IBM PC commercial? It's not on youtube and they have one on Gametrailers.. I'm looking for it to post on my blog for the 30th anniversary of the PC

12 years, 11 months

Solaris 10 update 10 is available [OT]

by vintagecoder＠aol.com

Sign up for the yahoo Hercules VM group. They will probably have what you need. Also google or scroogle for Bob Abeles, he is the guy that got the VM distribution from IBM packaged, IIRC. ------Original Message------ From: Christian Corti Sender: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts ReplyTo: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Solaris 10 update 10 is available [OT] Sent: 12 Aug 2011 15:32 On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, vintagecoder at aol.com wrote: > Don't everybody grab it now until my downloads finish! Still waiting for Solaris 11 and perhaps silently migrating to FreeBSD in the future (ZFS is a must-have nowadays). | Collecting: DOS assemblers, compilers, & books (Z80, M68K, 6502, 808X) | | Software & doc for IBM S/360 through OS/390 | Hmm, I could need a VM/SP Rel.5 Starter System tape image in order to install my VMSUP distribution. Christian

12 years, 11 months

Solaris 10 update 10 is available

by vintagecoder＠aol.com

Don't everybody grab it now until my downloads finish! -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Vintage Coder America Online ivagntrpbqre at nby.pbz <ROT13> | | | | Collecting: DOS assemblers, compilers, & books (Z80, M68K, 6502, 808X) | | Software & doc for IBM S/360 through OS/390 | | | | Can't find: Ada 95 compilers for MVS/ESA & Solaris (Sparc) | | PL/I X Optimizing Compiler for MVS, APL/SV for MVS | |---------------------------------------+--------------------------------| | Powered by Slackware 64 Intel and Solaris 10 Sparc | |=======================================+================================| | PGP Key 4096R 0x1CB84BEFC73ACB32 Encrypted email preferred | | PGP Fingerprint 5C1C 3AEB A7B2 E6F7 34A0 2870 1CB8 4BEF C73A CB32 | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

12 years, 11 months

Computer History Book project

by david＠classiccomputing.com

OK, my Kickstarter campaign is a great success, but it's coming upon it's end. If you would like to pre-purchase a special Kickstarter edition, then please check out - http://t.co/8iSzNKF Your welcome to freely read the entire first issue of the zine "Historically Brewed" here - http://www.classiccomputing.com/hb.html Thanks! Best, David Greelish, Computer Historian President, Atlanta Historical Computing Society Classic Computing The Home of Computer History Nostalgia http://www.classiccomputing.com Classic Computing Blog Classic Computing Show video podcast "Stan Veit's History of the Personal Computer" audiobook podcast Retro Computing Roundtable podcast

12 years, 11 months

Format Question for M8639 YA (RQDX1)

by jhfinedp3k＠compsys.to

I just finished running ZRQB?? using two different RQDX1 controllers. The drive used in each case was an RD51. While each RD51 drive works correctly under the RQDX1 controller which was used to format the drive, each RD51 will not work with the other RQDX1 controller. Each RQDX1 is able to successfully use the same RX50 floppy drive. Each RQDX1 is so old that the version of the EPROMs can not be read. They look to be the same, but I don't have an EPROM reader. I always thought that any given M8639 YA controller produces the same format. Can anyone comment? This is the first time that I have ever seen an incompatibility. Any advice would be appreciated. Jerome Fine

12 years, 11 months

Happy Birthday (Corrected)

by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

Happy belated birthday to Steve who on Aug 11 became 61 Happy Birthday to the IBM PC who on Aug 12 became 30..

12 years, 11 months

Happy Birthday to Steve Wosniak and the IBM PC

by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

Steve is 61 The IBM PC is 30

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