>>>They demolished the
>>>units of drawers, and who knows how much type they lost as they moved the
>>>stuff half way across country (I'm told that there was loose type in the
>>>truck and on the ground when they unloaded).
I know it's easy to critique the craters mistakes but there is a point
To be learned and I think it's fundamental: High density objects that
May normally OK at rest in their usual low density containers, do
not travel well unless measures are taken to prevent them from rattling around.
Type in drawers is one example, but a more relevant one for this group would
be big iron transformers on aluminum or steel sheet metal chassis. That chassis may be
Perfectly fine at rest, but keep in mind that its
Very likely the transformer was originally shipped separate from the chassis when
The unit was new, 30 or 40 or 50 years ago.
Every single instance I've seen where a supposedly professional packer/crater
Screwed up, it was a high density object that wasn't taken into account that did
The damage. I was not so much angry to see the damage inflicted by the transformer
Rattling around in the chassis, as I was sad.
Tim.
>Message: 8
>Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:23:23 +0100
>From: Mark Wickens < mark at wickensonline.co.uk >
>Subject: Vintage Portable Computing Suggestions?
Get an HP LX 95, 100 or 200. The 200 is readily available, runs for weeks on 2AA batteries, and has MS-DOS 5 and a decent serial port. Screen is not backlit, but is fairly readable in daylight. Keyboard is calculator style, but has a numberic keypad in addition to the alpha keys and is not bad to use.
Bob
Thanks to past comments here, I recommended the Library use Craters
and Freighters to move a hot-press machine, and two units full of
drawers of type. Big mistake. They dismantled the machine, after
being told not to, and who knows if the damage they did can be
repaired. They demolished the units of drawers, and who knows how
much type they lost as they moved the stuff half way across country
(I'm told that there was loose type in the truck and on the ground
when they unloaded).
Sounds like the only things they didn't demolish were the bolts of fabric.
I've not been able to get over to view the carnage, and I'm not
looking forwards to it.
I also found that if you're using them to move stuff like computer
equipment you have to sign off that they're not responsible for any
damage they do. WTF!
Zane
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I'm going to be going to Dayton again, with a pretty good mix of new,
old, and non-computer stuff.
I'll be in the same spaces as last year - FE3224/3225.
Who else is going?
--
Patrick Finnegan
This is surrealistic.
Sergio
2011/5/18 Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com>
> Thanks to past comments here, I recommended the Library use Craters and
> Freighters to move a hot-press machine, and two units full of drawers of
> type. Big mistake. They dismantled the machine, after being told not to,
> and who knows if the damage they did can be repaired. They demolished the
> units of drawers, and who knows how much type they lost as they moved the
> stuff half way across country (I'm told that there was loose type in the
> truck and on the ground when they unloaded).
>
> Sounds like the only things they didn't demolish were the bolts of fabric.
>
> I've not been able to get over to view the carnage, and I'm not looking
> forwards to it.
>
> I also found that if you're using them to move stuff like computer
> equipment you have to sign off that they're not responsible for any damage
> they do. WTF!
>
> Zane
>
>
>
> --
> | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
> | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
> | | Photographer |
> +----------------------------------+----------------------------+
> | My flickr Photostream |
> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |
>
Hey! I?m sick and tired of trying to find a good Xref database for
componants, and am considering making my own. What information do you
consider critical in cross referencing a part?
Given that old Soviet knockoffs of pdp11 cpus can be found on ebay, I was
wondering if anyone else has thought of making S100 boards containing said
processors.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
At 12:00 -0500 5/13/11, Andrew wrote:
>The only remaining practical options IMO are to either write/port a
>free/open source operating system to PDP-11 (an enormous task)
fig-FORTH? I'm pretty sure there was at least one (buggy?) version
for PDP-11; I think maybe it ran on top of RSX-11M because I remember
trying to type it in on UTCSR's RSX-11M system. I would expect
drivers might be relatively easy to write in FORTH, but I don't know
what other OS services might pose a challenge.
--
- Mark 210-379-4635
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Large Asteroids headed toward planets
inhabited by beings that don't have
technology adequate to stop them:
Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.
My latin isn't that good. I only know a handful of short
well-known
phrases/sayings:
Canem canem edit
Carp?
deum
Carp? noctum
et cetera
mea culpa
Lame I
know. Does anyone know of any good books for learning
latin?
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
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From: "David Griffith" <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu>
To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent:
Tuesday, May 10, 2011 6:51 AM
Subject: latin stuff
>
> Si
des purgamentum purgamentum accipietis
>
> Noli turbare cuium simia
virgas tonitrui
>
> Si duo sunt in una camera turpis vento facit,
qui sciunt et feci
>
>
> --
> David Griffith
> dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
>
> A:
Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is
top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the
most annoying thing in e-mail?