test-drb July 2010

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213 discussions

by hp-fix＠xs4all.nl

If I remeber correct some one was asking for DEC dssi tewrminators. I found two in my toolbox, free for cost of posting (I'm in the Netherlands) -Rik

14 years, 10 months

recovering cartridge tapes (was: Tek fiches found!

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

> Still the question remains: how best to read cartridge tapes with > faulty belts and sticky drive capstans? Even 20 years ago, it was de rigueur to disassemble the cartridge and replace worn or stretched or deformed rubber parts with new or at least better components from a "donor cartridge". When the decay had left little rubber fragments in the path you had to take the cart apart to remove/clean them before reading anyway. Twenty years ago, only the worst (due to extreme ozone exposure or physical wear) carts needed this. Today the issue is that all the donor cartridges may be 20 or 30 years old too. Tim.

14 years, 10 months

Fanfold paper tape storage bins/trays

by RichA＠vulcan.com

Serious question: We have a number of paper tapes which have been stored in paper boxes for quite some time. I would like, if at all possible, to move these into the kind of storage containers in which many of our tapes already live. These are transparent stable plastic with a lid, divided into 8 sections of Just the Right Size(TM) to hold fanfold paper tape. There is probably no one who makes these any longer, but on the off chance that I am wrong about that, does anyone know (a) who might make these, or (b) what they are called, so that I can try to find them using one of the large search engines, or (c) have a supply of them stashed with which the current owner is willing to part? Thanks, Rich Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Server Engineer Vulcan, Inc. 505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900 Seattle, WA 98104 mailto:RichA at vulcan.com mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org http://www.PDPplanet.org/ http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/

14 years, 10 months

Fw: MacPaint and QuickDraw source code released

by richard.cini＠wellsfargo.com

If it was developed on the Lisa, would they have used LisaPascal? There's a Lisa emulator out there -- I might play with it this weekend and see if it works. ------Original Message------ From: Cameron Kaiser Sender: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org To: CCTalk ReplyTo: CCTalk Subject: Re: MacPaint and QuickDraw source code released Sent: Jul 22, 2010 11:02 AM > I've never used Think Pascal, but I did use Think C (LightSpeed C) a > lot. I wonder if you could port it to Think Pascal... I would think you > could. Or maybe it would "just build" using MPW. Glancing cursorily, I think MPW would have a fit. The .rsrc file also needs to be turned into a proper resource fork. My instinct would be to try to pre-process it. I agree THINK Pascal would be the logical, closest first target. -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- The moon may be smaller than the Earth, but it's farther away. ------------- Rich ----------------------------- Richard A. Cini, Jr. Managing Director Wells Fargo Capital Finance New York, NY 10017 (P) (212)-545-4402 -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld This email is subject to a disclaimer, please click on the following link or cut and paste the link into the address bar of your browser. https://www.wellsfargo.com/com/disclaimer/uswfbnap

14 years, 10 months

Looking for PDP8/A RL01 boot proms.

by jdr_use＠bluewin.ch

I am looking for a set of boot proms that would enable me to boot from the RL01 that is connected to my PDP8/A That is, if such a boot prom actually exists..... And as a side note : why is the 8/A so unloved ? Big RL01 disk, 128k memory, fpp processor, all in one case. Try that with another -8 ! Jos

14 years, 10 months

recovering cartridge tapes (was: Tek fiches found!)

by roger.holmes＠microspot.co.uk

On 21 Jul 2010, at 22:22, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > Message: 23 > From: Richard <legalize at xmission.com> > > > In article <4C46A57E.15148.5E8BCB at cclist.sydex.com>, > "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> writes: > >> [...] Almost all cartridge DC- >> style tapes are recorded "serpentine" style--i.e. start in one >> direction, shift the head, reverse, etc... > > This is news to me. Every cartridge tape I've ever used recorded data > to the end and then stopped. I don't recall seeing any mechanism for > shifting the tape head in HP264x terminals with DC100 cartridges nor > in Tektronix 4051 terminals with DC300 cartridges. > >> So the spooling scheme had better work. I'm not aware of any 32- >> channel (for example) QIC heads. > > QIC tapes are something different from DC300 and DC100 tapes. I always though QIC was an abbreviation for Quarter Inch Cassette. I'm fairly sure I've used DC300s and they were cassettes full of quarter inch tape with a constant peripheral speed drive band inside so no need for variable speed spool motors. Roger Holmes

14 years, 10 months

Serial interfaces

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 09:15 AM 7/20/2010, Ethan Dicks wrote: >I really do not like USB. It takes hundreds of cycles and more to >move a simple message, it's a host-based, not bi-directional design, >and it's only available on somewhat newish kit. What drives me crazy is the lack of debugging of the stack. When it's not working on contemporary Windows kit, there's no way I've found to help understand what's not really working. This morning, I plugged a client's thumb drive into their laptop, and the logical drive seemed to disappear at random. I switch connectors, thinking it's a wonky physical connector, no difference. Just unreliable. Another stunner was that vmWare didn't support native USB on the host. They're accomplishing thousands of other miracles, but can't virtualize USB enough for me to connect a drive to a virtual appliance? (I think this is fixed in last month's major release.) I'm often trying to connect client hard drives to backup machines via USB-to-SATA/IDE adapters, and when the drive won't seem to wake-up or show up, there's no way to debug where it is failing. I suspect some of the opacity is deeper in Windows at the logical Disk Management level, with layers of "Disk 1" numbering, logical drives and partitions and SCSI emulation, a registry that records every drive fingerprint ever connected to it (really), etc. Last week, a client's thumb drives weren't being recognized. I had to reinstall Windows. I think Windows was failing at the very top layer, at the moment where a recognized device was known to be hard drive, but it couldn't show it as a logical drive. And yet so many built-in media-readers for CF/SD cards will show logical drive letters to the OS when there's nothing inserted. My desktop shows four. Why? - John

14 years, 10 months

Cayman GatorBox CS firmware update issues

by smoothbase＠mac.com

Do you still have at least one box left in your storage Am I the lucky one and how much it is sincerely Jean-Pierre Baselis Boston and Paris

14 years, 10 months

SLAMMING vintage computer auction ends

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

made you look: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120596128607&ssPageName=… Canon CX-1. Not in the greatest condition, but it's the first time I've seen one offered. 6809 based. My Canon AS100 has something in the way of a native debugger also (haven't turned it on in over a year). starting bid was 25$. Ended at about 235$. And I had thought that no one even knew it existed.

14 years, 10 months

Fwd: Re: Looking for PDP8/A RL01 boot proms.

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

For those who use Firefox, Chrome, etc. browswers that support FTP you can also: ftp://bickleywest.com/pdp8a_bootrom/ and right click on the files... Cheers, Lyle ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: Looking for PDP8/A RL01 boot proms. Date: Wednesday 21 July 2010 From: Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> To: cctech at classiccmp.org On Wednesday 21 July 2010, Jos Dreesen wrote: > > I am looking for a set of boot proms that would enable me to boot from the RL01 that is connected to my PDP8/A > That is, if such a boot prom actually exists..... > > And as a side note : why is the 8/A so unloved ? > > Big RL01 disk, 128k memory, fpp processor, all in one case. Try that with another -8 ! > > Jos > > I've uploaded the two bootroms you need to boot a RL01 on a PDP-8A using a KM8 (M8317). You'll need to burn the images into 82s126 chips. I've also uploaded the corresponding level 8A schmatics/manuals which have this level of ROM described (IIRC on the third page of the KM8 portion of the schematics). You can pick up the images and manual by: ftp bickleywest.com user: anonymous pswd: (email address) cd pdp8a_bootrom ... bye Cheers, Lyle -- Lyle Bickley, AF6WS Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero" ------------------------------------------------------- -- Lyle Bickley, AF6WS Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

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test-drb July 2010