test-drb June 2009

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by keithvz＠verizon.net

Hi, I've got an old piece of test equipment that has momentary push button switches which are the primary "input" or control. While most of them seem to work, many of them are sticky, mushy, and just don't have a positive click. I'm not totally adverse to simply replacing them --- assuming I could find an exact match. Is there a way to effectively bring these back to life? Can I lube them? What should I use? How should I apply it? Thanks Keith

15 years, 1 month

Fwd: Need assistance in restoring to working order a MicroVAX 3800

by WVerish＠aol.com

____________________________________ From: WVerish To: cctech at classiccmp.org Sent: 6/14/2009 12:58:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time Subj: Need assistance in restoring to working order a MicroVAX 3800 Hi: I have a MicroVAX 3800 computer that went overnight from being able to boot from the hard drive to not seeing the hard drives at all. The computer will look at the TK70, but I do not have a bootable tape. I purchased a KFQSA board from the net, but that did not seem to help. A scan of then QBUS shows only UQSSP Tape controller MUA0 and the ethernet adapter XQB0. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please keep in mind that I am a "newbie", but I am learning as fast as I can. I am 60 years old, and serious about getting this system up and running again. I would also be happy to be able to find someone with an Open VMS VAX version that can build me a bootable tape using the STABACKIT.Com tool provided with Open VMS VAX...............or...................use a tape-bases distribution that would come with a TK50 tape kit, which is supposed to be read-compatible with the TK70. Thanks for listening, Wayne Verish (440) 885-0803 ____________________________________ Download the _AOL Classifieds Toolbar_ (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown000000…) for local deals at your fingertips. **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown000000…)

15 years, 1 month

Natima (was: All this talk of Unix and other OSes...)

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

That was a typo on my part, I meant Natami. Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk --- On Sun, 14/6/09, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> Subject: Natima (was: All this talk of Unix and other OSes...) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, 14 June, 2009, 4:31 AM At 5:22 PM +0000 6/13/09, Andrew Burton wrote: > Of course Natima is going to run the 68070, but don't quote me on that as I haven't been following the project that closely. Natima?? Google didn't pull up anything useful.? What is this? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary)? ? | OpenVMS Enthusiast? ? ? ???| | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet)? ? ? ? ???| Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ |? ???Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing,? ? | |? ? ? ? ? PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum.? ? ? ???| |? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/? ? ? ? ? ? ???|

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Natima (was: All this talk of Unix and other OSes...)

by lproven＠gmail.com

2009/6/14 Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com>: > At 5:22 PM +0000 6/13/09, Andrew Burton wrote: >> >> Of course Natima is going to run the 68070, but don't quote me on that as >> I haven't been following the project that closely. > > Natima? ?Google didn't pull up anything useful. ?What is this? > > Zane WHS! -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lproven at gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven ? LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508

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VMS/RSX manuals

by bqt＠softjar.se

Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote: > Pontus wrote: >> Hi. >> >> I just got a mixed bag of VMS and MicroVMS manuals. Its programming >> guides and users guides, unfortunately not complete. I also have RSX >> manuals for version 2, these are complete I think. >> >> I'm not throwing anything away, but I'm wondering if there is any value >> in preserving these and if I should make an effort and scan them? >> >> (I can get more specific about what manuals I have if someone cares) >> > > More specific would be good. Many have already been scanned, though they > are not on line. Speaking of which - have the RSX manuals been scanned in color? For many volumes that is rather relevant, since DEC used colors to give additional information in the manuals. (User input is usually in red, sections with a pink background are RSX-11M only, while sections with grey backgorund are RSX-11M-PLUS only, and sections with blue text are multiprocessor systems only). Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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VMS/RSX manuals

by pontus＠update.uu.se

Hi. I just got a mixed bag of VMS and MicroVMS manuals. Its programming guides and users guides, unfortunately not complete. I also have RSX manuals for version 2, these are complete I think. I'm not throwing anything away, but I'm wondering if there is any value in preserving these and if I should make an effort and scan them? (I can get more specific about what manuals I have if someone cares) Cheers, Pontus

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All this talk of Unix and other OSes...

by gordonjcp＠gjcp.net

... has given me an itch to do some bare-metal work on a classic, maybe a standalone Forth or something. Trouble is, I now have no "simple" classics. I don't fancy starting off doing this on an Amiga ;-) Has anyone in the UK (preferably the North, to make collection easier) got a smallish CP/M machine, or a BA23-cased PDP11? Drop me an email offlist and let me know what you want for it. I miss having a PDP11 about the place... Gordon

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All this talk of Unix and other OSes...

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

To my knowledge Amiga's went all the way! I think the CD32 had one of the embedded chip CPU's (eg. 68ECxxxx), but I know Amiga's definately went to the 68040. Some did use the 68050 and 68060, but I don't know whether they were added later by users or whether they were added at the factory. Of course Natima is going to run the 68070, but don't quote me on that as I haven't been following the project that closely. Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk --- On Sat, 13/6/09, blstuart at bellsouth.net <blstuart at bellsouth.net> wrote: From: blstuart at bellsouth.net <blstuart at bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: All this talk of Unix and other OSes... To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Date: Saturday, 13 June, 2009, 5:56 PM > ... has given me an itch to do some bare-metal work on a classic, maybe > a standalone Forth or something. > > Trouble is, I now have no "simple" classics.? I don't fancy starting off > doing this on an Amiga ;-) Assuming you have at least 1M of memory in the Amiga, a native Inferno port could be fun.? If your Amiga is re-68020 (I can't remember how far Amigas went in the family), you'll have to do a little work on the compiler to keep it from assuming a 680x0, x>=2. BLS

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All this talk of Unix and other OSes...

by lynchaj＠yahoo.com

________________________________ ... has given me an itch to do some bare-metal work on a classic, maybe a standalone Forth or something. Trouble is, I now have no "simple" classics. I don't fancy starting off doing this on an Amiga ;-) Has anyone in the UK (preferably the North, to make collection easier) got a smallish CP/M machine, or a BA23-cased PDP11? Drop me an email offlist and let me know what you want for it. I miss having a PDP11 about the place... Gordon -----REPLY----- Hi! You could build your own N8VEM system. CP/M is easy to get running. Better yet, get one of the new N8VEM 6809 host processor PCBs and port FLEX or CUBIX. Certainly that would provide untold hours of joyful hacking. Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

15 years, 1 month

Zealots vs. Naval ships Re: Windows for critical infrastructure (was Re: UNIX V7)

by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

I'm sorry I have to add to this, this is WAY WAY WAY OT but because this has been taken to all new levels. The argument about the USS Yorktown has nothing to do with Microsoft or windows. This has to do with boats. The people who are commenting on the fact that they do not completely believe the story that the ship needed to be towed. These people are not Microsoft kool aid drinkers, they are people that do not believe that the naval ship needed to be towed back, because the ships are built to be run manually if needed. Why? Ship propulsion systems do have manual controls, because even the best systems fail. So, if the systems fail, the engineers on board get them running manually and you get the ship back. This has nothing to do with windows, this has to do with how Naval ships are built. The Yorktown was commissioned in 1984, the incident happened in 1997. So this is not a brand new ship and they 99.9999% chance had ways of manually bringing the ship back to port. I mean seriously, do you in your right mind think they removed all the manual controls and just stuck a bunch of Windows NT machines? Again this has nothing to do with Windows, this has to do with naval personal being able to run the ship manually back to port. Anthony DiGiorgio who wrote the scathing report and was the person who stated NT was not up to the job, stated that the GCN misquoted him. So it is not a kool aid drinker that stated this. The person WHO stated that NT was the problem stated that it didn't need to be towed back. As for the news reports, it seems it all stems from one comment in the issue of Government Computer News. All the links seem to quote off that article. Some people are so blind with hatred against something (Microsoft, Apple, Linux, add your own) that they can seem to see what other people are saying. So if you don't believe the story, then YOU MUST be a Microsoft Kool-Aid drinker. If you are not for us, you are against us attitude. You know, there are different flavors of cool aid out there and over the last day or so I can see who has been drinking what.. I am going to make a nice glass of vintage CP/M kool aid myself and try and get my Northstar running and maybe find documents for my Wameco. If anyone would like to join in, I would be happy to pour.

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test-drb June 2009