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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:00:28 -0600
Groups: alt.sys.pdp8
From: John Everett <jeverett3 at sbcglobal.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.net>
Org: at&t http://my.att.net/
Subject: LA-36 Free to a Good Home
Id: <08rlp45lofocavjg9oumacf50dt428t6b9 at 4ax.com>
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I have an LA-36 DECwriter that was working last time I plugged it in.
It's free to the first person who wants to pick it up in the western
suburbs of Chicago. Just email.
--
jeverett3<AT>sbcglobal<DOT>net (John V. Everett)
Hey all --
While I'm waiting for other parts to arrive for my Tek project... anyone
know where to find 12.44Mhz crystals? I acquired an old SSM VB1B video
card (with an amazing 64 cols by 16 rows display capability!) that was
only mostly-assembled, and the crystal is missing.
According to the manual
(http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/s100c/ssm/vb1b.pdf), it's a 12.44
Mhz part but I can't for the life of me find one anywhere -- even my
Google searches mostly return links to the VB1B manual :).
(And while we're at it -- my Tek project needs a pair of 39M-ohm
resistors... anyone know where to find _these_? I know I can hack one
up by putting a few others in series, but it's quite a mess...)
Thanks,
Josh
I was cleaning out a box of PCMCIA cards and found a gray thin pcmcia
memory card with no markings on it. I believe it was used to load some
of the HSJs when we got updates. If anyone wants it, I'll drop it in
the post (US or Int'l) for the cost of shipping.
I've got a handfull of these things that I've been trying to use. My programmer supports them, and I was hoping that they would have the same pinout as a 2732. At the moment, I'm not so sure.
So far, I've had three of these chips in the eraser for a good 45 minutes total. If I set the programmer to the ICT 27CX321, it won't blank check - although reading it in and examining the data produces something composed mostly FF's - though not entirely. If I set the programmer to a generic 2732, it passes blank check.
I haven't tried programming one yet - although I suppose I could try to fill one with zeroes.
So, I take it that these things have a different pinout? I can't find any data on these.
Any help would be appreciated.
-Ian
>
>Subject: Re: 8088 vs. 80c88
> From: Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:10:34 -0800 (PST)
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>
>regardless, and be sure I am no expert on semiconductor manufacturing, I'd be surprised to find out that all 8088's were CMOS after a certain date. The 80c88's were used mostly in small laptops, no?
No they wer eused in many stationary apps wherelow power was desired.
(small being anything smaller then that Zenith big honker, w/the shocking blue display. It used a *real* 8088 IINM). A CMOS version would be slower and more prone to damage from static electricity. And it would require less power. Off the top of my head I can't think of any desktops that used them, but I may have actually ran into 1 or 2 in my travels.
They were not slower, most were as fast or faster. I have a few here. 10mhz and 12mhz
parts along with 80C188s (12 and 16mhz).
Allison
>?But I am glad you managed to answer your own question Jimbo :)
>
>--- On Thu, 2/12/09, Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org> wrote:
>
>From: Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org>
>Subject: Re: 8088 vs. 80c88
>To: General at mail.mobygames.com, "On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 2:49 PM
>
>Jim Leonard wrote:
>> So a simple routine to try to identify the 8088 vs. the 80c88 would look something like:
>>
>>???mov? ???cx,2? ? ? ? ? ? ; test if following instruction will be
>>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???; repeated twice.
>>???db? ? ? 0F3h,26h,0ACh???; rep es: lodsb
>>???jcxz? ? Yes? ? ? ? ? ???; intel non-CMOS chips do not care of rep
>>???jmp? ???Nope? ? ? ? ? ? ; before segment prefix override, NEC and
>>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???; CMOS-tech ones does.
>
>It turns out my information is bad.? The bug only asserts itself when an interrupt occurs during the REP.? Buggy CPUs don't continue; later ones do.? So to fix my detection code, I will increase the count in cx to something much longer, probably f000.
>-- Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org)? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.oldskool.org/
>Help our electronic games project:? ? ? ? ???http://www.mobygames.com/
>Or check out some trippy MindCandy at? ???http://www.mindcandydvd.com/
>A child borne of the home computer wars: http://trixter.wordpress.com/
>=0A=0A=0A
> Anyone recognize these? I've never seen or heard of them before.
> <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/vintage/multipage.jpg>
I don't recognize multipage as a brand name, but those sure look a lot
like the generic 3270 clones that were everywhere in the 80's and 90's.
A picture of a keyboard or the connections on the back of a terminal would
confirm my guess.
Tim.