test-drb July 2008

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by quapla＠xs4all.nl

Hi, I'm looking for a keyboard which goes with the GT-40. I do have the terminal and video processor, but to make it complete I need the keyboard as well. Thanks, Ed

16 years, 5 months

HOPE Conference this weekend

by evan＠snarc.net

We at MARCH were very pleased to see so many people at HOPE express interest in vintage computers. Our booth Saturday didn't feature anthing wild -- just an Osborne, a Mac 128K, and a IIe running Oregon Trail. But it was packed with excited hackers almost the entire day. -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail <sellam at vintagetech.com> Subj: HOPE Conference this weekend Date: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:58 pm Size: 1K To: Classic Computers Mailing List <cctalk at classiccmp.org> First, I think I speak for Jessie Jackson when I say I'm glad to hear that they will be keeping HOPE alive. With regards to Vegas, I spent more time there when I was 21 than I care to admit, but it wasn't for the gambling and sin (the true story is even wilder). I haven't been back since except for a couple short stop overs on business trips, so I'm interested to see how it's all changed. When I was going there the Bob Stupak tower was still up and they were just starting to build that big emerald glass casino, the MGM Grand I believe. I've never been to DefCon but would like to go, and it would be good justification for finally seeing modern Vegas. Back to HOPE, I attended in 2006 and it was one of those experiences where you think it was going to be lame but it completely overwhelmed your low expectations and turned into an excellent experience (like Mardi Gras in NO :) I was expecting a bunch of dorky wannabe hackers running around trying to out-impress each other with their h4x0r tricks but it was nothing of the sort: just a bunch of serious-minded people converging in the HOtel PEnnsylvania to learn and share knowledge. I highly recommend it. I would've gone this year but for my sagging bank account :( -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

16 years, 5 months

"first" computer on the internet

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: "first" computer on the internet > From: Eric Smith <eric at brouhaha.com> > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:18:34 -0700 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >Mark wrote: >> And what was the first operating system to have builtin support for >> internet access? Did Windows for Workgroups have this or was that just >> LAN networking? > >It certainly wasn't any Microsoft operating system. Microsoft was at >least ten years late to the party. > >If you define "internet access" as "having TCP/IP", it might have been >BSD 4.1a, which included the crufty BBN TCP/IP code, and was released in >1982. ARPANET switched from NCP to TCP/IP on January 1, 1983 ("flag day"). I'm a bit surpirzed no one has mentioned UUCP. Allison

16 years, 5 months

Does anyone have a DEC VT100 Keyboard they can spare?

by malcolm＠avitech.com.au

Just wondering if anyone has a VT100 keyboard they can spare for a reasonable price? I recently received a VT100 terminal (minus keyboard) and am keen to bring this back to life. Malcolm

16 years, 5 months

HOPE Conference this weekend

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

First, I think I speak for Jessie Jackson when I say I'm glad to hear that they will be keeping HOPE alive. With regards to Vegas, I spent more time there when I was 21 than I care to admit, but it wasn't for the gambling and sin (the true story is even wilder). I haven't been back since except for a couple short stop overs on business trips, so I'm interested to see how it's all changed. When I was going there the Bob Stupak tower was still up and they were just starting to build that big emerald glass casino, the MGM Grand I believe. I've never been to DefCon but would like to go, and it would be good justification for finally seeing modern Vegas. Back to HOPE, I attended in 2006 and it was one of those experiences where you think it was going to be lame but it completely overwhelmed your low expectations and turned into an excellent experience (like Mardi Gras in NO :) I was expecting a bunch of dorky wannabe hackers running around trying to out-impress each other with their h4x0r tricks but it was nothing of the sort: just a bunch of serious-minded people converging in the HOtel PEnnsylvania to learn and share knowledge. I highly recommend it. I would've gone this year but for my sagging bank account :( -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

16 years, 5 months

know where I can get a 800k drive for a mac SE?

by trag＠io.com

> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:21:41 +0100 (BST) > From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) > Only after carefully examining the floppy drive cable did I realise it > was not a normal 20 way ribon. 1 or 2 of the 'cores' were solid plastic, > with no wire. So no connection between those pins at the ends of the > cable. > > IIRC, the colour of the pin-1 marker on these cables is important -- it > indicates which cores are missing. There is a yellow striped cable and a red striped cable. The color stripes are the pin-1 marker, but the different colors indicated different wiring. > And people wonder why I hate working on Apple stuff... Oh, I doubt that many of us, even the ones who concentrate all their classic computer fun on Apple machines, really wonder at that. :-) I try not to dwell on the silly hardware decisions and focus on the things I like, but there are these oddities which consume little bits of my wetware memory--like the differently striped floppy cables. And I more or less ignore the existence of the old models that were very poor design decisions from the concept, such as the 68030 based machines with 16 bit data busses. The SE/30 though, there's an elegant little machine--with just enough imperfections to provide fodder for the hardware hacking inclined. :-) Jeff Walther

16 years, 5 months

vintage computers for pick-up in austin, tx

by frustum＠pacbell.net

I decided to give away most of my collection. I just don't have the time anymore to play with any of it, and the thought of wrapping this all for ebay gives me convulsions. The condition is (please read carefully, and sorry for shouting): ####################################################### ### ### ### THIS IS FOR PICK-UP AT MY HOUSE IN AUSTIN TEXAS ### ### ### ####################################################### No, I can't ship. Sorry. Really. I'm not going to do it. The sooner you pick it up the better, as I might loose my mind and decide to keep it all. If there is interest from more than one person, I reserve the right to parcel things up how I see fit. If you have some special connection or need for any of these items, let me know and I'll take it into consideration. (1) IBM 5120. BASIC-only. Dual 8" disk drives. Works. Needs terminator to allow the disk drives to work (the terminator is built into the printer that is daisy-chained off the expansion bus, but when I bought the 5120, I didn't want to pay for shipping a hundred pound dot matrix printer with it). Has manuals and a few floppies. (2) An Apple II+, and Apple IIe with an accelerator card (3.5 MHz), a bunch of floppies, some games new in box, joysticks, a few disk drive units, a few cards (3) Northstar Horizon, in the aluminum case. With one 5.25" drive, one 10 MB (I think) hard drive. Works. Currently turbodos is installed and is working, but I have turbodos, hdos, and normal nsdos disks available too. I have a number of manuals for it as well. (4) A Sage II computer. Dual 5.25' floppies. This is a 68000-based system. Works. Boot media too. (5) A PT Helios disk system and controller board set. This doesn't work, but I believe is repairable. These were touchy to begin with, so it would take a lot of perseverance and some skill to get it going again. (6) Two Sol-20s. Both have been tricked out with Hogg Labs upgrades to 80x24 text, and relocation of the monitor roms to F000 (switchable). Both had their keypads replaced and work fine. This will come with a large collection of manuals, pretty much everything that is on www.sol20.org (7) TRS-80 Model 4P. That is the luggable model. Works. Perhaps I can find some boot disks. Thanks.

16 years, 5 months

"first" computer on the internet

by tonym＠compusource.net

>-----Original Message----- >From: Allison ajp166 at bellatlantic.net >Sent 7/20/2008 5:58:30 PM >To: cctech at classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: "first" computer on the internet > > >I'm a bit surpirzed no one has mentioned UUCP. > >Allison > > Why I mentioned UUCP yesterday, I think. I used it to connect to miami.edu for email. This woulda' been reeeeeally early 90's Tony

16 years, 5 months

IE4 for Alpha running NT4

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

Anybody have a link for IE4 for alpha? Casn't seem to find it on the net and a friend is looking for it. Thanks, TZ

16 years, 5 months

FS: PCjr stuff, Richard from m CArlos PCjr..

by sales＠c-reset.com

7-20-2008 Hello Carlos: Thanks for passing along the message on the IBM PCjr computers etc. We have plenty of PCjr items at this time and can not purchase more at this time. We are still working on the office building to make it meet the City of Dallas Code. This has been going on since Mid March and I am close to the end. We owe a BIG Thank You GOD for his help in sending us some volunteers >from our church to help with the work. I found some new LNW80 Technical Reference Manuals and also some NEW copies of the CP/M 2.2 Operating system while cleaning up - Do you want one ? ? You may remember this was an early CP/M machine similar to the TRS-80 Model 1. If you do I will give pass them along to Bruno the next time I see him. Best Regards Richard Computer Reset Dallas, TX Remember: Faith expects from GOD what is beyond all expectation. Jose carlos Valle writes: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: cs.csubak.edu > Date: 2008/7/18 > Subject: FS: PCjr stuff > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > > > > I have three PCjr units. One has four sidecars. One has one. The third > has none. There are also four chiclet keyboards, four "regular" keyboards > (one sealed new-in-box), a technical manual, and lots of keyboard > overlays. > > Make me an offer. > > > -- > David Griffith > dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu > > A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? > > > > -- > Jos? Carlos Valle ? Presidente curador > www.museudocomputador.com.br > Blog do curador:--HTTP://blogdocurador.museudocomputador.com > Tel office: 011 4666-7545 - celular prov: 8794-6730 > Tel skype 3013-3946 - "Tudo posso naquele que fortalece, Felipenses 4:13"

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test-drb July 2008