test-drb September 2007

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Does anyone have a SGI Onyx 10000 RealityEngine2?

by jplist2007＠kiwigeek.com

Greetings; I'm planning on moving an Onyx rack in the next two weeks and I'm probably going to have to be fairly agricultural with my tooling - pickup truck and flatbed trailer, no lift gate, no lovely enclosed box. I'm thinking that to safely transport this I'll tip it on its back and lay it flat on some 2x4s onto the flatbed trailer, but I'd love any advice >from listers who have moved one, or better yet, who have one and can tell me things like - how solid is the frame (after removal of the plastic skins)? Is it top heavy? Bottom heavy? (I'm guessing after removal of PSUs, top heavy, but unsure) Anything would be much appreciated. I found the below: http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/sgidepot/chalonyx.html Which gives a nice picture of a unit with open doors, but it's hard to tell how solid the frame rails are. The thing looks awfully deep to be a standard 19" rack, so I'm guessing it's custom, but... having never seen one... Many thanks for your time, JP Hindin

16 years, 9 months

VAXSERVER 3600 IN SEATTLE WA

by michaelgreen42＠comcast.net

I've got an old VAXSERVER 3600 taking up space in my house. I really don't know anything about it but was told it was functional from the guy I picked it up from about a year ago. I'm looking for the highest bid from someone that can pickup in the Seattle, WA area.

16 years, 9 months

Unknows S-100 System

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: Unknows S-100 System > From: "Roy J. Tellason" <rtellason at verizon.net> > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:17:43 -0400 > To: cctech at classiccmp.org > >On Sunday 23 September 2007 09:12, Allison wrote: >> >Subject: Re: Unknows S-100 System >> > From: "Roy J. Tellason" <rtellason at verizon.net> >> > Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:44:57 -0400 >> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" >> > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >> > >> >On Saturday 22 September 2007 19:35, Barry Watzman wrote: >> >> All commercial software used 8080 instructions, >> > >> >Well, no. Two that I know of that did require a z80 were Turbo Pascal >> > and Mix C. >> > >> >-- >> >> What I wrote something similar I used the word "most" as I knew there was >> some CP/M software that required z80. However from a business user >> perspective most of the deireable and likely used software like word >> preocessors, spreadsheets and databases 8080 was just fine save for >> speed and the 8085 solved that. Also the 8085 was more of a bridge >> than the ultimate application cpu. Somebody else used all. I used most, you have the series of posters crumped.. >Yup, but the word used there was "all". :-) By someone that posted before me. You have a bunch or people and me munged together. I've been at it long enough to know and have delt with the transistion >from 8080 to z80 and on. My first system was Altair (8080) upgraded to NS* (z80) and in '79 I bought a Netronics Explorer 8085 all of which I still have and all work. The amount of software that eould ran on 8080 was sufficient to keep 8080 users going into the 16bit world. >And then there was software that was good enough to test what it had, and go >from there... Yes, some of the stuff was adaptive. There was also a version of ZCPR that was "trimmed" to run on 8080 so that at least a few improvements were available. Allison

16 years, 9 months

Old mini computer (B80)

by zmerch-cctalk＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Mr Ian Primus may have mentioned these words: >Now, what I'm wondering, is how big of a hassle is it >to bring this across the border? I've never picked up >a computer from Canada. Is customs going to raise a >stink about a 25 year old minicomputer? Whatever you do, *don't* say *collectible*!!! "Museum piece" would be another bad term to use. Customs will hear these terms and think $$$. Tell the customs agent that you have a giveaway (and seriously hint that fact being equatable to "worthless" if asked) hardware rack, obsolete wouldn't be a bad term to use... Keep responses short, sweet & to the point. Don't be a smartass[1]. Don't give 'em your life story, as they're busy folk and don't need to hear it. *Especially* don't "hum and haw" when asked a question, the Customs agent will smell fear and pull you over to inspect your cargo, asking more questions than you'd prefer. Go over your story in your head several times, and try to be prepared for any question they might ask, like "Why'd you drive to BFE to get this thing?" or "What's this thing actually worth?" A good story to use is: Part A) "I used one in high school/college but no-one uses these anymore... " and choose either Part B: Part B1) "... and this person was going to throw it away anyway, so I saved it from the dumpster." or Part B2) "... and this person said it didn't work anymore and I wanted the challenge to try to fix it." and if asked to elaborate, try: "it's a hobby just like restoring Model 'T' cars, but for geeks." Something to that effect anyway should work fairly well. Also, if the units "country of origin" was the USA, there shouldn't be any duty for it to return to the USA, no matter how much it's worth, so if there's a tag on the machine or a manual with it that states "Made in the USA" then they shouldn't give you any hassle. A good piece of advice to keep in mind WRT Customs: You are *guilty* until proven innocent. If you're thinking of making a weekend out of it, get a gas receipt, buy a candy bar, etc. once you get into Canada, because if you're looking to hit the Duty Free on the way back, if you can't *prove* you were in Canada as long as you say, you haven't. Period. I worked at a Duty Free for 3 years or so when I was a young lad, and learned quite well the powers (which are considerable) of US Customs. HTH, Roger "Merch" Merchberger [1] It only takes once to get the "wrong officer" (read: Didn't get any the nite before) to make your life hell crossing the border. 3 years ago going to VCF East (the one in Bahston), I crossed from Port Huron, MI to Sarnia, Ont.... made the trip quite a bit shorter for me. No worries... until on the way back. The guy asked me for my passport (which wasn't necessary at the time) and then for my birth certificate (also not necessary, not to mention mine had been destroyed and I'd hadn't gotten it replaced yet at the time) so the guy accused me of a) being a terrorist, and b) never having crossed the border before. I broke my own rules, as I a) rather forcefully reminded him that I was a veteran, b) I grew up on a border town and had prolly crossed into Canada more (by the time I was 20) than he ever had, and c) I knew the crossing rules better than he did. [2] Needless to say, my civil rights were violated that day because of my outburst... but remember, you're not technically in the US until *after* customs, so they can get away with it. Most don't abuse the power, but a few can & do... [2] I (barely) stopped short of both vulgarity and questioning his parentage... thank goodness! -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger | Anarchy doesn't scale well. -- Me zmerch at 30below.com. | SysAdmin, Iceberg Computers

16 years, 9 months

[SPAM(date)] Re: Old mini computer (B80)

by stevew＠ka6s.com

Al Kosow Wrote: >I would be a good thing to save. I think RSC/RI has one as well >(W.D. would know for sure) > >Also, no software has been archived for this machine, so any >surviving copies would be a good thing. If I recall correctly - this machine will run the Burroughs CMS software. This OS worked from the B80 upto the B1800 systems. Steve Wilson

16 years, 9 months

Old mini computer

by mouse＠Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA

About that B80, in case anyone is interested, I wrote to the poster saying >>> 450-454-5631 >> This number is in St-Remi, according to the NPA-NXX tables I have. >> Is that where the B80 is? and got a response saying > You have the right town. /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

16 years, 9 months

pen plotters?

by renevr＠unitedtelecom.be

Hi Erik, I have the same problem. Is it possible to copy the book again?? Rene

16 years, 9 months

case cracker

by jvdg＠sparcpark.net

Tony: >> Can someone point me to somewhere where I can get a case cracker of some >> sort? I don't think I'm going to score an official Apple one, so I'll >> settle for one that looks like the one on this page: > > I've heard the term 'case cracker' or 'Mac cracker' applied to 2 > different tools : A long TX15 Torx driver to fit the screws in the > handle of classic Macs; and a thing to fit in the groove between the > front and hack parts of the case to force them apart after you've removed > the screws. > > For the formsr, the Xcellite System 99 drivers work well. You need a > handle, X5 extension and TX15 blade (the parts should all be available > separately, you don't need to buy a set). With the extension, the tool is > long enoguh to easily remove those screwsm and the blade itself is long > enough so that the joint between it and the extension bar is in the > larger part of the handle. > > For the latter, I've always found that if you remove the battery cover > (needed to get at one of the screws), you can press on the battery and > the I/O connectors to get the case free.. My preferred method is to place the Mac face-down on a towel (to avoid scratching), and then give the sides a good whack with the palms of both hands. This will split the case right open with a very satisfying "PHLOOMPH!" type of sound. ,xtG tsooJ

16 years, 9 months

CTX Panoview 630 power supply pinout?

by gilbert.vandevelde＠telenet.be

Hello Looking around for power supply pinout for my touchscreen device, I met your message. Please is it possible to send me that pinout (panoview 630). Thanks x 1000 ! Gilbert Van de Velde

16 years, 9 months

case cracker

by tsw-cc＠johana.com

While other have mentioned the "shaking over a couch" method, I used a similar method by pushing on the connectors (the DB25 used for SCSI, and the Mini DIN-8's used for the serial ports. After you loosen the Torx screws (I got a long Torx driver from Fry's for this purpose), it was an easy matter to put the CRT down on a soft surface (I think I did it on my lap as I remember) and just push on the connectors while holding the case. Plop it went. Pretty easy if you ask me. I never did buy a "case cracker". Little use given my success at pushing on connectors. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/

16 years, 9 months

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test-drb September 2007