Greetings;
I'm planning on moving an Onyx rack in the next two weeks and I'm probably
going to have to be fairly agricultural with my tooling - pickup truck and
flatbed trailer, no lift gate, no lovely enclosed box.
I'm thinking that to safely transport this I'll tip it on its back and lay
it flat on some 2x4s onto the flatbed trailer, but I'd love any advice
>from listers who have moved one, or better yet, who have one and can tell
me things like - how solid is the frame (after removal of the plastic
skins)? Is it top heavy? Bottom heavy? (I'm guessing after removal of
PSUs, top heavy, but unsure)
Anything would be much appreciated.
I found the below:
http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/sgidepot/chalonyx.html
Which gives a nice picture of a unit with open doors, but it's hard to
tell how solid the frame rails are. The thing looks awfully deep to be a
standard 19" rack, so I'm guessing it's custom, but... having never seen
one...
Many thanks for your time,
JP Hindin
I've got an old VAXSERVER 3600 taking up space in my house. I really don't
know anything about it but was told it was functional from the guy I picked
it up from about a year ago. I'm looking for the highest bid from someone
that can pickup in the Seattle, WA area.
>
>Subject: Re: Unknows S-100 System
> From: "Roy J. Tellason" <rtellason at verizon.net>
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:17:43 -0400
> To: cctech at classiccmp.org
>
>On Sunday 23 September 2007 09:12, Allison wrote:
>> >Subject: Re: Unknows S-100 System
>> > From: "Roy J. Tellason" <rtellason at verizon.net>
>> > Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:44:57 -0400
>> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
>> > <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>> >
>> >On Saturday 22 September 2007 19:35, Barry Watzman wrote:
>> >> All commercial software used 8080 instructions,
>> >
>> >Well, no. Two that I know of that did require a z80 were Turbo Pascal
>> > and Mix C.
>> >
>> >--
>>
>> What I wrote something similar I used the word "most" as I knew there was
>> some CP/M software that required z80. However from a business user
>> perspective most of the deireable and likely used software like word
>> preocessors, spreadsheets and databases 8080 was just fine save for
>> speed and the 8085 solved that. Also the 8085 was more of a bridge
>> than the ultimate application cpu.
Somebody else used all. I used most, you have the series of posters
crumped..
>Yup, but the word used there was "all". :-)
By someone that posted before me. You have a bunch or people and me
munged together.
I've been at it long enough to know and have delt with the transistion
>from 8080 to z80 and on. My first system was Altair (8080) upgraded to
NS* (z80) and in '79 I bought a Netronics Explorer 8085 all of which I
still have and all work.
The amount of software that eould ran on 8080 was sufficient to keep
8080 users going into the 16bit world.
>And then there was software that was good enough to test what it had, and go
>from there...
Yes, some of the stuff was adaptive.
There was also a version of ZCPR that was "trimmed" to run on 8080
so that at least a few improvements were available.
Allison
Rumor has it that Mr Ian Primus may have mentioned these words:
>Now, what I'm wondering, is how big of a hassle is it
>to bring this across the border? I've never picked up
>a computer from Canada. Is customs going to raise a
>stink about a 25 year old minicomputer?
Whatever you do, *don't* say *collectible*!!! "Museum piece" would be
another bad term to use. Customs will hear these terms and think $$$.
Tell the customs agent that you have a giveaway (and seriously hint that
fact being equatable to "worthless" if asked) hardware rack, obsolete
wouldn't be a bad term to use...
Keep responses short, sweet & to the point. Don't be a smartass[1]. Don't
give 'em your life story, as they're busy folk and don't need to hear it.
*Especially* don't "hum and haw" when asked a question, the Customs agent
will smell fear and pull you over to inspect your cargo, asking more
questions than you'd prefer. Go over your story in your head several times,
and try to be prepared for any question they might ask, like "Why'd you
drive to BFE to get this thing?" or "What's this thing actually worth?"
A good story to use is:
Part A) "I used one in high school/college but no-one uses these anymore... "
and choose either Part B:
Part B1) "... and this person was going to throw it away anyway, so I saved
it from the dumpster."
or Part B2) "... and this person said it didn't work anymore and I wanted
the challenge to try to fix it." and if asked to elaborate, try: "it's a
hobby just like restoring Model 'T' cars, but for geeks."
Something to that effect anyway should work fairly well.
Also, if the units "country of origin" was the USA, there shouldn't be any
duty for it to return to the USA, no matter how much it's worth, so if
there's a tag on the machine or a manual with it that states "Made in the
USA" then they shouldn't give you any hassle.
A good piece of advice to keep in mind WRT Customs: You are *guilty* until
proven innocent. If you're thinking of making a weekend out of it, get a
gas receipt, buy a candy bar, etc. once you get into Canada, because if
you're looking to hit the Duty Free on the way back, if you can't *prove*
you were in Canada as long as you say, you haven't. Period.
I worked at a Duty Free for 3 years or so when I was a young lad, and
learned quite well the powers (which are considerable) of US Customs.
HTH,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
[1] It only takes once to get the "wrong officer" (read: Didn't get any the
nite before) to make your life hell crossing the border. 3 years ago going
to VCF East (the one in Bahston), I crossed from Port Huron, MI to Sarnia,
Ont.... made the trip quite a bit shorter for me. No worries... until on
the way back. The guy asked me for my passport (which wasn't necessary at
the time) and then for my birth certificate (also not necessary, not to
mention mine had been destroyed and I'd hadn't gotten it replaced yet at
the time) so the guy accused me of a) being a terrorist, and b) never
having crossed the border before.
I broke my own rules, as I a) rather forcefully reminded him that I was a
veteran, b) I grew up on a border town and had prolly crossed into Canada
more (by the time I was 20) than he ever had, and c) I knew the crossing
rules better than he did. [2] Needless to say, my civil rights were
violated that day because of my outburst... but remember, you're not
technically in the US until *after* customs, so they can get away with it.
Most don't abuse the power, but a few can & do...
[2] I (barely) stopped short of both vulgarity and questioning his
parentage... thank goodness!
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger | Anarchy doesn't scale well. -- Me
zmerch at 30below.com. |
SysAdmin, Iceberg Computers
Al Kosow Wrote:
>I would be a good thing to save. I think RSC/RI has one as well
>(W.D. would know for sure)
>
>Also, no software has been archived for this machine, so any
>surviving copies would be a good thing.
If I recall correctly - this machine will run the Burroughs CMS software.
This OS worked from the B80 upto the B1800 systems.
Steve Wilson
About that B80, in case anyone is interested, I wrote to the poster
saying
>>> 450-454-5631
>> This number is in St-Remi, according to the NPA-NXX tables I have.
>> Is that where the B80 is?
and got a response saying
> You have the right town.
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Tony:
>> Can someone point me to somewhere where I can get a case cracker of some
>> sort? I don't think I'm going to score an official Apple one, so I'll
>> settle for one that looks like the one on this page:
>
> I've heard the term 'case cracker' or 'Mac cracker' applied to 2
> different tools : A long TX15 Torx driver to fit the screws in the
> handle of classic Macs; and a thing to fit in the groove between the
> front and hack parts of the case to force them apart after you've removed
> the screws.
>
> For the formsr, the Xcellite System 99 drivers work well. You need a
> handle, X5 extension and TX15 blade (the parts should all be available
> separately, you don't need to buy a set). With the extension, the tool is
> long enoguh to easily remove those screwsm and the blade itself is long
> enough so that the joint between it and the extension bar is in the
> larger part of the handle.
>
> For the latter, I've always found that if you remove the battery cover
> (needed to get at one of the screws), you can press on the battery and
> the I/O connectors to get the case free..
My preferred method is to place the Mac face-down on a towel (to avoid scratching), and then give the sides a good whack with the palms of both hands. This will split the case right open with a very satisfying "PHLOOMPH!" type of sound.
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tsooJ
Hello
Looking around for power supply pinout for my touchscreen device, I met your message. Please is it possible to send me that pinout (panoview 630).
Thanks x 1000 !
Gilbert Van de Velde
While other have mentioned the "shaking over a couch" method, I used a similar
method by pushing on the connectors (the DB25 used for SCSI, and the Mini
DIN-8's used for the serial ports. After you loosen the Torx screws (I got a
long Torx driver from Fry's for this purpose), it was an easy matter to put the
CRT down on a soft surface (I think I did it on my lap as I remember) and just
push on the connectors while holding the case. Plop it went.
Pretty easy if you ask me.
I never did buy a "case cracker". Little use given my success at pushing on connectors.
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