Below is a list of stuff I got in the mail today. Someone didn't want it to
get thrown away and I offered to pay shipping costs to get it in to
collectors hands. Little did I know it was going to be $150. So I'm
definitely entertaining offers on any of the items below to recoup my costs.
I also just want to make sure this stuff gets to collectors.
Condition - most of this stuff is in unusually good condition. Many of the
dec handbooks look almost new. I probably want to keep the 11/34 printset
and the unibus extender. With regards to the manuals, there are some real
gems in the list - note the GT40 manuals, the 11/70 handbook, and the 68000
programming card. Let me know if there is interest.
Jay
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DEC handbooks
microcomputer processor handbook 1979-80
2 microcomputers and memories 1981
2 microcomputers and memories 1982
3 microcomputer interfaces handbook 1980
2 pdp11 processor handbook pdp11/04/24/34a/44/70
PDP-11 micro/pdp-11 handbook 1983-1984
microcomputer processors 1978-1979
pdp11 peripherals handbook 1976
pdp11 peripherals handbook programming & interfacing 1973-1974
pdp11 peripherals and interfacing handbook 1972
pdp11 04/05/10/35/40/45 processor handbook 1975-1976
communications handbook 1981-82
terminals and communications handbook 1980
pdp11/70 processor handbook 1977-78
vax hardware handbook 1980-81
vax systems hardware handbook - unibus systems
(vax-11/725/730/750/780/785/782, 8600/8650)
Misc Books
IC Op-Amp cookbook second edition, walter jung (sams)
Small manuals
orange minireference book RSX-11M (version 4.2)
blue minireference book RSX-11M (version 3.2)
PDP-11 RT-11 pocket guide
Fluke 8024A operator's guide card
pdp11 programming card
pdp11 programming card (older blue one)
pdp11/04/34/34a maintenance card
RSX-11M pocket reference (ship and masefield quote on front)
MC68000 16 bit microprocessor programming card
Printsets
11/34a field maintenance print set
MS11-L field maintenance print set
VT100/VT103 field maintenance print set
Manuals
(2) PDP-11 Macro-11 language reference manual
(2) RSX-11M/M-Plus task builder manual
pdp-11/34 system users manual
MS11-L MOS memory users guide
DL11-W serial line unit/real-time clock option operators manual
M9312 bootstrap terminator module technical manual (copy)
VAX-11 run time library reference manual
RSX-11M/M-Plus executive reference manual
IAS/RSX-11 system library routines reference manual (with updates)
RSX-11M guide to writing an I/O driver (with updates)
VAX-11 record management services reference manual
VAX/VMS I/O users guide volume 1
VAX/VMS I/O users guide volume 2
VAX/VMS real time users guide
VAX-11 run time library users guide
RSX-11M beginners guide
RSX-11M/RSX-11S documentation directory
RSX-11M mini-index
Introduction to RSX11M
Beginners guide to the DEC EDITOR
(2) RSX-11M/M-Plus guide to program development
DECUS C Language Sytem DECUS C compiler reference manual
DECUS C Language System compiler & library software support manual
DECUS C Language System utility library reference manual
PML users guide portable math library
DECUS C Language system RSX-11M v4.0 executive and F11ACP C Extensions
library
GT40 users guide (operation)
GT40 graphic display terminal manual volume 1 (theory, prog, maint)
GT40 graphic display terminal manual volume 2 (theory, prog, maint)
RSX11M user handouts (ZX-RSX11-UR)
IAS/RSX-11 macro-11 reference manual
IAS/RSX-11 ODT reference manual
RT-11 shoftware support manual
Price lists & specs
GT11 Price List
Hardware
KEF11-AA (four roms, 2 sets, each set is a uA1488PC and a uA1489PC)
unibus dual height extender card
M9312 bootstrap terminator card (roms DL, DM, DP, DKDT, and 11/04/34
diag/cons)
VT100 terminal & keyboard
> Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 09:39:48 +0100
> From: "Andy Piercy" <andy.piercy at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Unix disk copy using dd ?
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
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> So basically you can only use dd to copy to a disk of the same size.
>
I have successfully used dd to copy a disk onto another disk of a
larger size. The difference between the original disk and the new disk
is unused space, but you can run the host partitioner and change that
(or, if it's a newer filesystem like XFS, JFS, etc. you can extend onto
the unused space).
P.S. - realized that my new system for replying to a digest left
several messages quite probably without any subject. My apologies.
Scott
> Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 06:53:49 +0100
> From: "Rod Smallwood" <RodSmallwood at mail.ediconsulting.co.uk>
> Subject: Mentec
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
> Message-ID:
> <86505602FE0FBB4CB9DE54636AA48D39022ED1 at EDISERVER.EDICONS.local>
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>
> Hi All
> I'm a bit confused about this Mentec issue. They bought up the
> rights to the pdp-11 line and even produced some new boards. Now they
> seem to have abandoned the whole thing. I can only find one web site
> that could be theirs but it is very up market corporate image stuff. No
> mention of pdp anything.
>
> As I am in the middle of restoring some pdp-11/94's the issue around
> how
> RT11 and RSX could be made available is of much interest. If they have
> not sold the rights and are not pursuing the business perhaps they
> could
> help us poor pdp preservers.
>
> Rod
>
Questions come in clusters, don't they. I'll answer this, since several
people were kind enough to patiently explain it to me when I asked the
same (VFAQ, but nothing listed in one place).
Mentec is still around, although it looks like the PDP-11 division
website is not up right now. They did make RT-11, RSX-11, and RSTS/E
available for people to use in a _non-commercial_ environment under
SIMH. Images for RT-11 and RSTS/E (which does have DCL now, I was
operating under old information) are available from the SIMH website.
I'm not sure if the RSTS/E distribution includes the RSX runtime or
not.
Sadly for hobbyists, the license does not extend to true hardware, only
the SIMH emulator. It seems that Mentec was looking to have an expanded
hobbyist program, but it was not economically viable and/or the
attitude of some hobbyists was a bit off-putting. No official reason
was given, but the rumors are as above. :(.
2.11BSD and v7 are available freely, though.
I believe I have gotten this correct.
Scott
> From: David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu>
> Subject: MacOS 6 on BasiliskII
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.55.0705031511340.6010 at helios.cs.csubak.edu>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>
> I have BasiliskII installed via apt on Ubuntu. I've sucessfully read
> and
> installed the 6.0.8 system disks as downloaded from Apple's archive.
> The
> rom images I have and have tried are for a Quadra650 and a Performa.
> BasiliskII doesn't like the Mac Plus rom. On boot, I get a complaint
> that
> this Mac is set for 32-bit addressing and that I should switch to
> 24-bit
> addressing (since os6 doesn't do 32-bitness). Clicking "24-bit"
> doesn't
> work. Does anyone here know how to get this working?
>
As has been said, 040 ROMS are too new for System 6, as are most
Performa ROMs. If a Plus won't run, try to find a IIci to get ROM
dumps. System 6 runs on almost all II series Macs (not on IIvx/vi,
though- but those are rare). The IIci is quite common, which is why I
suggested it (also 32-bit-clean if you should want to run System 7)
(but you could use II, IIx, IIcx, SE/30, IIsi, IIfx also).
All:
This evening I posted a few articles on the Hawthorne TinyGiant 68000
that appeared in The Computer Journal issues 27, 29, 30 and 31.
Enjoy.
Rich
--
Rich Cini
Collector of Classic Computers
Build Master and lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator
http://www.altair32.comhttp://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp
Chris M wrote:
And that post of mine was an obvious joke. Everyone
knew it from the get go.
---
Billy responds:
I didn't. Maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake, but I have trouble
deciphering your messages. The humor in this one went right over my head.
Billy
Firstly thank you all for your kind responses. I'm now up to date with
the history. Does anybody know what the current status is? Have Mentec
abandonded the pdp-11 market or what? If they no longer see any
commercial value in the products then why refuse us?
If the rights had not been sold then I supose that they would be owned
by HP. HP do have a very good VMS hobbyist program. Join HPUG and you
can get a FOC license for most things.
To round things off. What is the situation with pdp-8's?
Rod
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tim Shoppa
Sent: 04 May 2007 18:22
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Mentec
Al Kossow wrote:
> It sounds like Zane (maybe Tim Shoppa) have been in contact with them
> recently, so there is no need for yet another set of people to be
> involved.
If "Recently" is "2000", then yes, I worked extensively with Mentec to
make three sets of hobbyist CD's (RT-11, RSX-11,
RSTS/E) using my archives and their archives to get bootable kits for
emulators.
> As I understand it, they have no interest in offering a low cost
> license no matter how many people ask about it.
Internally, there was interest, and I discussed it with several at
Mentec in the 1996-2001 timeframe as I worked with them on other
projects, and it got as far as them having a web page with pictures of
the CD's I made for them. But no, not all the legal barriers were
jumped, so it never really happened.
I don't think anyone truly understands the legal barriers that Mentec
faces. They do not own all the stuff free and clear to do with as they
wish. In the late 90's, they could not sell a copy of any PDP-11 OS
unless they also sold DEC's printed manuals with it, and they were
having extreme troubles getting DEC's printed manuals from DEC's print
shop.
The folks in Mentec who were most enthusiastic about it were really
nice, energetic people.
I don't have any sore feelings about the work I did back then (I had a
blast) but I don't have as much interest in the subject as I did ten
years ago. Being out at the CHM last year rekindled it a little... but
there's no shortage of truly redistributable and very-few-condition
other stuff that I'm worrying about now.
Tim.
I have BasiliskII installed via apt on Ubuntu. I've sucessfully read and
installed the 6.0.8 system disks as downloaded from Apple's archive. The
rom images I have and have tried are for a Quadra650 and a Performa.
BasiliskII doesn't like the Mac Plus rom. On boot, I get a complaint that
this Mac is set for 32-bit addressing and that I should switch to 24-bit
addressing (since os6 doesn't do 32-bitness). Clicking "24-bit" doesn't
work. Does anyone here know how to get this working?
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
There used to be a New England ham radio show known as the "hosstraders"
flea market, or the Deerfield show. It had morphed into a radio /
computer flea market.
There is a new annual ham radio / computer flea market show at the
Deerfield facility this weekend. If anyone wants specifics drop me an
email.
James -
"I seem to be having tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle"
On May 4, 2007, at 10:04 AM, M H Stein wrote:
> I did indeed assume a filesystem; under what circumstances would a
> Unix hard disk not have a file system?
---------------
From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
One example is the use of a raw partition for, say, a database.
This is not uncommon in Oracle installations, for example.
From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com>
Informix does this also. It has a whole management subsystem for its
"raw" dataspaces.
From: Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com>
So do PostgreSQL, DB2 and many others. It's a fairly common feature.
---------------
Well, yes; in fact I used to use Informix and still have disks & docs that
I've been meaning to archive and/or re-install some day, but if I were asking
how to copy a data partition I think I'd call it an Informix disk and not a Unix
disk, since that would certainly have a bearing on the how-to. However,
now that I re-read the header I can see that he could have meant "copy a disk
using Unix" instead of "copy a Unix disk" (which is what I assumed he meant).
What would life be without ambiguity...
Now, back to Andy, the original poster: did your question get answered?
m