Hi folks,
I'm going down to the Citro?n Car Club rally in Wetherby this weekend.
I wondered if any classiccmpers fancied meeting up at some point. ISTR
there's a few in that part of the world...
Gordon
Can somebody send me the decoded switch settings for the 8-bit IBM
"64-256KB MEMORY CD"? There are 8 switches, marked A16-A19, 64KB,
128KB, 190KB, and 256KB.
I need to know how to set the switches for my 16-64KB 5150, so I can
bring it up to 256KB and run PC-DOS 3.30.
Thanks.
ok
bear
Does anyone know of a place that has parts for a Commodore SX 64? (in
particular, keyboard and cable)
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
I'd like to announce the Computer History Wiki at
http://toresbe.dreamhosters.com/wiki !
I realize that there has been some discussion previously about setting
up a computer history wiki, and that Jay has decided against hosting one
himself, favouring a knowledge base arrangement.
I am involved in the Norwegian Computer History Society, and we have a
MediaWiki website which we are very happy with. However, being a
Norwegian organization, the page is... well, it's in Norwegian. I found
myself really enjoying adding technical information, guides, etc, but I
was very frustrated by the fact that the text would only reach a very
limited audience, and only had a very limited potential for revision by
others - at most, our audience consisted of Scandinavia.
Recently I bought a very cheap hosting deal from Dreamhost, which so far
has worked splendidly. I therefore decided to use this to set up an
English computer history wiki and gauge the response. So far, this has
been very encouraging - we are up to 80 articles now, and it's growing
very fast.
The chief difference between this wiki and Wikipedia is that this is not
aiming to be an encyclopedia of formal defintion articles, but an
information base for articles of all kinds - handy hints and tips,
practical guides, tutorials, quick introductions, cheat sheets, advice,
stories, you name it.
My hope is that this page could become a resource for people on all ends
of the classiccmp knowledge scale. The wiki is currently hosted on a
temporary domain, since I did not want to spend my free domain (included
in the hosting deal) if interest turned out to be minimal. Well, it
hasn't, and I'm seriously considering registering a domain very soon.
Currently, the wiki has a strong DEC minicomputer bias, because all
three of the current active editors are DEC fans. With time, I hope this
bias becomes less apparent, and that people will add information about
micros, other minis, mainframes, peripherals, terminals, etc, etc.
Again, the URL of the wiki is: http://toresbe.dreamhosters.com/wiki
Regards,
Tore Sinding Bekkedal
"Rod Smallwood" <RodSmallwood at mail.ediconsulting.co.uk> skrev:
> Now that makes a lot more sense.
>
> So PMI memory choice is: (2 Max)
>
> MSV11-JD M8637-D 1 MB ECC PDP-11/84 or PDP-11/83
> MSV11-JE M8637-E 2 MB ECC PDP-11/84 or PDP-11/83
Correct.
> The CPU choice is:
>
> Module Type Speed RAM ROM LTC SLU
> ------ ---- ----- --- --- --- ---
> M8190 KDJ11-B
> M8190-AD KDJ11-BA 18
> M8190-AB KDJ11-BB 15 0 Y Yes
> 2
> M8190-AC KDJ11-BD
> M8190-AZ KDJ11-BF 18 0 Y Yes
> 2
You need to check out if all of these really works in an 11/84. I don't
think they all do. Some had hardware bugs that meant they only work in
the 11/83 configuration.
> So.....
>
> 1. Plug in one or two memory cards.
Yes.
> 2. Plug in a CPU card
Yes.
> 3. Insert Bus Grant cards (Which end of the slot?)
The bus grant goes into the middle slots. There are two models. One
really small one, which is only one connector high. They should go into
the fourth slot from the top if my memory serves me right. In this case,
you also need to make sure the NPG lines are are connected. This is done
by a DIP-switch block on the backplane. One switch per slot. It should
be visible if you look down into the cage. The other bus grand card is
two connectors high, and also carry the NPG line, in which case you
don't need to worry about the DIP-switches.
> 4. Insert in Slot nine a M9302 UNIBUS TERMINATOR and a M9713 MIN. LOAD
> MODULE
Yes.
> 5. Now we would have:
>
> Slot 1 M8190-Ax KDJ11-Bx 11/83 - 11/84 CPU Card
> Slot 2 M8637-X MSV11-Jx PMI Memory
> Slot 3 M8637-X MSV11-Jx PMI Memory
> Slot 4 M8191 KTJ11-B Unibus controller
> Slot 5 M7547 TUK50-BB Tape controller (Bus grant as
> well?)
> Slot 7 G7273 NPG and BUS Grant
> / Double Grant
> Slot 8 G7273 NPG and BUS Grant
> / Double Grant
> Slot 9 M9302 UNIBUS TERMINATOR
> Slot 9 M9713 MIN. LOAD MODULE
You only need one memory card, so it's not really neccesary to get two.
Also, no grant in the slot where you have the TUK50. But I'm missing a
grant in slot 6. :-)
> 6. Connect up a terminal (I have several 420's) to the SLU connector.
Yes.
> 7. Connect a TK50 drive (Which I have) to its controller.
Yes.
> 8. Check for correct boot proms on the CPU card.
No need, normally. The 11/8x and 11/9x cards have nice large boot proms
with all kind of boot routines on them, including booting from TMSCP.
> 9. Switch on. Wait for smoke to clear. Look for output on the terminal.
Yes.
> 10. Insert a bootable tape. (Which I don't have yet)
That would help if you don't feel like starting to write your own code.
But for test purposes, not needed at all.
> All those in favor of this config say Aye!
> All those against email me quick, before I do anything dangerous!!
If you're just interested in checking that the machine is working, skip
the TUK50. Just make sure the unibus is "whole", and fire her up. The
boot monitor of the 11/8x and 11/9x are real talkative, with lots of
things that can be done without anything else, including running tests,
and checking out the hardware.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Roger that!!
>The other bus grand card is two connectors high, and also carry the
NPG line, in which case you don't need to worry about the DIP-switches.
These I have so where do they go?
Thanks for the kind assistance Jonny.
There now follows a general request for:
One M8190-Ax KDJ11-Bx 11/84 version
One/Two M8637-D or -E MSV11-Jx 11/84 version.
Anybody having or knowing the whereabouts of the above modules please
email me at:
rodsmallwood at btconnect.com
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist
Sent: 17 May 2007 21:51
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org; Rod Smallwood
Subject: Re: he Last of The Line
"Rod Smallwood" <RodSmallwood at mail.ediconsulting.co.uk> skrev:
> Now that makes a lot more sense.
>
> So PMI memory choice is: (2 Max)
>
> MSV11-JD M8637-D 1 MB ECC PDP-11/84 or PDP-11/83
> MSV11-JE M8637-E 2 MB ECC PDP-11/84 or PDP-11/83
Correct.
> The CPU choice is:
>
> Module Type Speed RAM ROM LTC
SLU
> ------ ---- ----- --- --- ---
---
> M8190 KDJ11-B
> M8190-AD KDJ11-BA 18
> M8190-AB KDJ11-BB 15 0 Y Yes
> 2
> M8190-AC KDJ11-BD
> M8190-AZ KDJ11-BF 18 0 Y Yes
> 2
You need to check out if all of these really works in an 11/84. I don't
think they all do. Some had hardware bugs that meant they only work in
the 11/83 configuration.
> So.....
>
> 1. Plug in one or two memory cards.
Yes.
> 2. Plug in a CPU card
Yes.
> 3. Insert Bus Grant cards (Which end of the slot?)
The bus grant goes into the middle slots. There are two models. One
really small one, which is only one connector high. They should go into
the fourth slot from the top if my memory serves me right. In this case,
you also need to make sure the NPG lines are are connected. This is done
by a DIP-switch block on the backplane. One switch per slot. It should
be visible if you look down into the cage. The other bus grand card is
two connectors high, and also carry the NPG line, in which case you
don't need to worry about the DIP-switches.
> 4. Insert in Slot nine a M9302 UNIBUS TERMINATOR and a M9713 MIN. LOAD
> MODULE
Yes.
> 5. Now we would have:
>
> Slot 1 M8190-Ax KDJ11-Bx 11/83 - 11/84 CPU Card
> Slot 2 M8637-X MSV11-Jx PMI Memory
> Slot 3 M8637-X MSV11-Jx PMI Memory
> Slot 4 M8191 KTJ11-B Unibus controller
> Slot 5 M7547 TUK50-BB Tape controller (Bus grant as
> well?)
> Slot 7 G7273 NPG and BUS Grant
> / Double Grant
> Slot 8 G7273 NPG and BUS Grant
> / Double Grant
> Slot 9 M9302 UNIBUS TERMINATOR
> Slot 9 M9713 MIN. LOAD MODULE
You only need one memory card, so it's not really neccesary to get two.
Also, no grant in the slot where you have the TUK50. But I'm missing a
grant in slot 6. :-)
> 6. Connect up a terminal (I have several 420's) to the SLU connector.
Yes.
> 7. Connect a TK50 drive (Which I have) to its controller.
Yes.
> 8. Check for correct boot proms on the CPU card.
No need, normally. The 11/8x and 11/9x cards have nice large boot proms
with all kind of boot routines on them, including booting from TMSCP.
> 9. Switch on. Wait for smoke to clear. Look for output on the
terminal.
Yes.
> 10. Insert a bootable tape. (Which I don't have yet)
That would help if you don't feel like starting to write your own code.
But for test purposes, not needed at all.
> All those in favor of this config say Aye!
> All those against email me quick, before I do anything dangerous!!
If you're just interested in checking that the machine is working, skip
the TUK50. Just make sure the unibus is "whole", and fire her up. The
boot monitor of the 11/8x and 11/9x are real talkative, with lots of
things that can be done without anything else, including running tests,
and checking out the hardware.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Microvax 2000 Hardware Information, slipcover
ThinkC for Macintosh, Symantec User's Guide
CP/M Assembly Language Programming, Barbier, Prentice
Hall
The Programmer's CP/M Handbook
last 2 are hardcovers
all the preceding a bit musty
same terms as last bunch of crap
also have an Apple IIe that had been sitting out in
the rain. Looks ok, powered up a few months ago,
distorted image, but it powered up.
prolly more items to follow...
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I got my selling spot numbers today when I arrived in Dayton and they are
2913 and 2914. I don't have any classic computer stuff for sale, but if you
get a chance, stop by and say Hi!
Marvin, KE6HTS
Right now I am attempting to configure my Everex EV-833 tape controller card
with my old 386 system and I am stuck at setting the dip switches and the
jumper blocks.
I usually find configuration settings here...
http://artofhacking.com/th99/index.htm
...but they don't have any info on this card. does anybody here know the
configuration settings or does anyone know where I can find the
configuration settings?
Here's a photograph:
http://www.yjfy.com/images/oldhard/scsi/pwa-0081h.jpg
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Robert Borsuk wrote:
>Does anyone know what a Com-tran Ten is? I have a set of prints
>(over 30 pages) I pulled from my filing cabinet (while looking for
>Mac info for Teo and Jeff) which say they are a reprint by permission
>of Digiac Corporation.
>I tried doing some goggling but to no avail.
>
>Any ideas (or links)?
>
>Rob
I used a Com-tran Ten computer trainer while attending the US Navy's Advanced First Term Avionics (AFTA) school in Millington, Tennessee in 1980. Our classroom time on it was pretty limited - a week or two, at most. I vaguely recall that it was used to teach a smattering of machine language and digital circuit fault analysis & troubleshooting. That's about all I remember, and unfortunately I lost most of the tech pubs I had kept from those days in a move several years ago.
If anyone else on the list attended tech school in Millington during that era, perhaps you can answer a question I've wondered about for a while. The Navy was experimenting with computer graded programmed instruction in the early 80s, and the machine that processed the Scantron forms would print out a line or two of remedial info or "attaboys" on each test report. Unfortunately, we never did get to see "Jim-Jim", the machine which processed our grades. Does anyone know what kind of hardware Jim-Jim was?
-Rick Kaumeier
