test-drb May 2007

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by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

Thanks to Johnny Billquist our intrepid Swedish pdp-11 collector we now have an answer to the 11/94 problem. The answer is any M8190 CPU and any M8637 memory. CPU in Slot 1 Memory in Slot 2 and 3. So CPU's M8190 KDJ11-B M8190-AD KDJ11-BA M8190-AB KDJ11-BB M8190-AC KDJ11-BD M8190-AZ KDJ11 Memory MSV11-JD M8637-D 1 MB ECC PDP-11/84 or PDP-11/83 MSV11-JE M8637-E 2 MB ECC PDP-11/84 or PDP-11/83 Before I go to the dealers does anybody have any of these? Rod

17 years, 1 month

Computer stuff 1970's ish at Lucas Birmingham Gt King St ?

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

Hi The Elliott core stores I worked on must have been the next generation. The electronics were in the two spaces either side of the core box. The boards were about a half to three quarters the size of those shown. The power supply was in the bottom of the cabinet and physically the same size as the store module. There was no monitor panel. The cabinet was full when there were four store modules and the psu present. I think the cabinets I knew were wider than those shown. Rod -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dave Caroline Sent: 19 May 2007 22:23 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Computer stuff 1970's ish at Lucas Birmingham Gt King St ? > > http://www.patooie.com/temp/elliott_803_fixing_sm.jpg That looks fun, I wish the petrol wasnt so expensive at the moment or I'd be down there! > > ... and one of the two core cabs: > > http://www.patooie.com/temp/elliott_803_memory_cab_sm.jpg > > I believe our resident Elliott guy (and ex-Elliott engineer) said that > he used to service that very machine at Lucas which you linked to! Ah perhaps he could tell me more as all I have is that pic and some manuals 803 computer library of programmes volume 2 Programming the Elliott 402E electronic digital computer (did they have a 402E as well) TRM250 tape reader Cant remember if the manuals are from the same source (Lucas Archive when Gt King street was demolished) There were a number of early computing books that I got from there as well Dave Caroline

17 years, 1 month

ibm sys/34 (two) available in st. louis

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Two running IBM sys/34 boxes, all peripherals, terminals, and docs included. Contact me off-list if there's interest. If no takers soon they will be scrapped. Jay West

17 years, 1 month

System/36 IPL Signon

by bear＠typewritten.org

Is there anybody on the list who knows the proper chant to appease a System/36 "IPL SIGN-ON" panel? I have zero experience with this, but I take it as a good sign that maybe security is disabled, as there's a user name field and no password field. I'm not too proud to accept a lot of handholding on this project. (@: FWIW it's a 5364 (the S/36 PC). Thanks! ok bear

17 years, 1 month

A little help w/shipping from the UK, please?

by ceby2＠csc.com

Richard, I've dealt with containerized shipping if that's a help. You can ping me off list and I can give you some pointers. But the level of effort is probably absurd for what you're attempting to achieve. Basically you just want to get quotes from ANC Express (now owned by FedEx) and ParcelPost, from the UK websites. They both do a roaring domestic surface trade, and have international shipping capabilities of course. Given the exchange rate, I hope you got a good deal, because the shipping is likely to seem expensive because we've gone from $1.70=?1 over the last two years to $2=?1. Best of luck anyway. Colin Eby ceby2 at csc.com

17 years, 1 month

A little help w/shipping from the UK, please?

by legalize＠xmission.com

I want to purchase this item from ebay 130113266639 and the seller quoted me this for shipping: "The total weight is 45kg! The cheapest freight I have found costs approx #200.00 (approx $400) with UPS. It would need to be shipped in 2 boxes. If you can find a cheaper shipping quote from London, UK, N10 3AB then you are welcome to arrange your own pickup by a delivery company from here if you win the auction." Any suggestions on a more cost effective way to ship this? I suspect the person got an air shipping quote and not something slower but less expensive. Any suggestions (URLs would be ideal) for better alternatives appreciated! -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

17 years, 1 month

Friden Flexowriter

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Wish me luck with this potential white elephant. If you decide not to restore it, CHM would be interested.

17 years, 1 month

A little help w/shipping from the UK, please?

by gtoal＠gtoal.com

Try an actual shipping company, the kind that load big wooden pallettes onto ships. I used one when I emigrated to the US 12 years ago and was surprised how reasonable it was, and I had *many* times more than just 45Kg... Only drawback, you often have to pick up from their docks yourself or you'll be charged a disproportionate delivery fee for the last 10 miles, with the driver expecting a serious tip for carrying the goods in. G

17 years, 1 month

OT? Freecycling Compaq Proliant 6500 - Milton Keynes, UK.

by classiccmp.org＠stellar.eclipse.co.uk

Not sure whether a 10-year-old quad Xeon is OT here or not - it's very late by the standards of many machines here, but I found it to have some "interestingness" value. Anyway this machine died on me recently and I don't have the heart to figure out what's wrong with it & get it going again. I offer it here first in case anyone local could use it (or the spares it constitutes), otherwise it'll go on the local freecycle. Stroller.

17 years, 1 month

The Last of The Line

by bqt＠softjar.se

Pete Turnbull <pete at dunnington.plus.com> skrev: > On 17/05/2007 21:51, Johnny Billquist wrote: >> > "Rod Smallwood" <RodSmallwood at mail.ediconsulting.co.uk> skrev: > >>> >> Module Type Speed RAM ROM LTC SLU >>> >> ------ ---- ----- --- --- --- --- >>> >> M8190 KDJ11-B >>> >> M8190-AD KDJ11-BA 18 >>> >> M8190-AB KDJ11-BB 15 0 Y Yes >>> >> 2 >>> >> M8190-AC KDJ11-BD >>> >> M8190-AZ KDJ11-BF 18 0 Y Yes >>> >> 2 >> > >> > You need to check out if all of these really works in an 11/84. I don't >> > think they all do. Some had hardware bugs that meant they only work in >> > the 11/83 configuration. > > Are you sure about that? Early ones had hardware bugs that prevent them > working with an FPJ11 but I never heard of one not working in an 11/84. > In fact the buggy ones were often found in 11/84s. On the other hand > there are some PMI memories that only work in one machine flavour, but > the opposite way round to what you wrote: the MSV11-JB and -JC only work > in 11/84s; their ASICs aren't compatible with QBus systems. Not entirely sure. I got that from the field guide. If you look at the M8190 there, you'll see that the KDJ11-B is only used in the 11/84 (unibus only). The KDJ11-BA, -BB and -BD is marked as Q-bus only, and only 11/83. The KDJ11-BF is the final version, and is marked as working in both 11/83 and 11/84 (both Q-bus and Unibus). Of course there are other problems as well, such as the FPJ-11 socket on some versions, as well as speed. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

17 years, 1 month

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test-drb May 2007