at least some of the 16 bit Paradise cards could
operate in an 8 bit slot. I know this for a fact. I
have no fear of endangering a board by just plugging a
card
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<james at attfield.co.uk> wrote:
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:01:13 -0600
> > From: Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org>
> > Subject: Re: Paradise VGA longshot
> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
Posts
> > <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
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> >
> > Chuck Guzis wrote:
> > > Jim, how about this one:
> > >
> > > http://artofhacking.com/th99/v/U-Z/50102.htm
> > >
> > > Does it look familiar? The WD90C11 was used on
other cards,
> > > including some no-name Taiwanese ones...
> >
> > Although the memory configuration is different,
that's pretty much it!
> > I didn't realize I could search Total Hardware for
things other than
> > model numbers... next time I'll be a little
smarter. Thanks!
> >
> > Sadly, it means I can't use this one. And on
further inspection, many
> > of the 16-bit-part-of-the-card's contacts lead to
a Motorola LS245, and
> > from there, to RAM, so I guess this one goes in
the 286 pile.
> > --
> > Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org)
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>
> Well, I would just plug it in and try it. It will
either initialise or not.
> I have used several of the earlier (i.e. just post
AT introduction) 16-bit
> cards in an 8-bit slot and they worked just fine,
especially the WD &
> Paradise ones. Just because it has some traces from
the 16-bit extension
> part to a buffer chip doesn't mean it won't work.
There is no electrical
> danger as the 8-bit section has to be compliant with
an 8-bit slot, more a
> question of if it will fit physically as it will be
longer than an
> equivalent 8-bit card. In any event there is one
8-bitter on ebaY UK atm if
> you are really worried.
>
> Jim
>
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:01:13 -0600
> From: Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org>
> Subject: Re: Paradise VGA longshot
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Message-ID: <45BC2009.6070800 at oldskool.org>
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>
> Chuck Guzis wrote:
> > Jim, how about this one:
> >
> > http://artofhacking.com/th99/v/U-Z/50102.htm
> >
> > Does it look familiar? The WD90C11 was used on other cards,
> > including some no-name Taiwanese ones...
>
> Although the memory configuration is different, that's pretty much it!
> I didn't realize I could search Total Hardware for things other than
> model numbers... next time I'll be a little smarter. Thanks!
>
> Sadly, it means I can't use this one. And on further inspection, many
> of the 16-bit-part-of-the-card's contacts lead to a Motorola LS245, and
> from there, to RAM, so I guess this one goes in the 286 pile.
> --
> Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/
> Help our electronic games project: http://www.mobygames.com/
> Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/
> A child borne of the home computer wars: http://trixter.wordpress.com/
Well, I would just plug it in and try it. It will either initialise or not.
I have used several of the earlier (i.e. just post AT introduction) 16-bit
cards in an 8-bit slot and they worked just fine, especially the WD &
Paradise ones. Just because it has some traces from the 16-bit extension
part to a buffer chip doesn't mean it won't work. There is no electrical
danger as the 8-bit section has to be compliant with an 8-bit slot, more a
question of if it will fit physically as it will be longer than an
equivalent 8-bit card. In any event there is one 8-bitter on ebaY UK atm if
you are really worried.
Jim
> Actually, I've never needed to try this - but is it reasonable to expect a
> "modern" system to be able to archive (using dd) a SCSI drive that's been
> formatted to something other than a 512 byte block size?
I think it is. Modern systems will be the ones that have mass storage systems
and networks capable of dealing with disc dumps.
When I've done this, though, I've written my own disc dumping code using SCSI
command blocks to the low-level interface.
This was necessary for archiving TI Explorer discs, which have 256 byte blocks
but are SCSI devices (MFM drive and ACB 4000 host adapter).
Hello all,
two daysw ago, I aquired a microVAX II with a RA81 and a tape drive.
At the beginning, I thought that it was a half inch tape drive (toploader stype), but it turned out to be a special thing.
Model type is : MT500C, the "C" standing for a cache option (128KB). The drive dates back from 1986,
uses 24 tracks and can save 500 MB, which is way more than the 9-track reel tapes can store.
It can be connected to a pertec controller.
It seems to special because I couldn't find any information for it except for a german site from which obtained
the information I provided earlier.
Does anybody on the list knows anything about it ? Any experiences ? Documentation would certainly help.
I don't even know where to get media for this thing. I got it whitout any media.
Regards,
Pierre
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I know this is a longshot, but I'm looking for the settings of all five
DIP switches on a Paradise VGA card from 1990. It has two strings on
the board, either of which could be the make/model:
PWBA 4316 0134-000
or
PW800 VGA
I'm assuming it's a paradise card, because the actual chip on it is from
Western Digital Corp. (a WD90C11-LR) and Paradise used them nearly
exclusively.
The reason I'm asking is because I'm looking for an 8-bit ISA VGA card,
and while this card is 16-bit, some of them could be DIP-switched to run
in an 8-bit slot.
There are five DIP switches on the backplate. No, I am not going to
plug it into my 5160 and power cycle it 32 times to go hunting for
something that works :)
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the card that I have (in storage) has a card
edge/fingers on top of the card. Mine is a Paradise,
bought new. There were at least 2 versions/revisions.
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have you plugged it into an 8-bit slot yet? I was
under the impression neither settings nor s/w was
required to be used as such. I guess I could be
mistaken tho
--- cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
<trixter at oldskool.org> wrote:
> I know this is a longshot, but I'm looking for the
settings of all five
> DIP switches on a Paradise VGA card from 1990. It
has two strings on
> the board, either of which could be the make/model:
>
> PWBA 4316 0134-000
> or
> PW800 VGA
>
> I'm assuming it's a paradise card, because the
actual chip on it is from
> Western Digital Corp. (a WD90C11-LR) and Paradise
used them nearly
> exclusively.
>
> The reason I'm asking is because I'm looking for an
8-bit ISA VGA card,
> and while this card is 16-bit, some of them could be
DIP-switched to run
> in an 8-bit slot.
>
> There are five DIP switches on the backplate. No, I
am not going to
> plug it into my 5160 and power cycle it 32 times to
go hunting for
> something that works :)
> --
> Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org)
http://www.oldskool.org/
> Help our electronic games project:
http://www.mobygames.com/
> Or check out some trippy MindCandy at
http://www.mindcandydvd.com/
> A child borne of the home computer wars:
http://trixter.wordpress.com/
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I have an old Heathkit-Zenith H/Z-19 terminal, and I am trying to
use it to connect to a Linux system. I have it set up successfully to
connect to the Linux machine, but I have a small problem. The bottom
half of the H/Z-19 screen is filled with "p"s in reverse video. When I
reach that part of the screen, everything I receive is gibberish. Most
of the characters show up as some other character. Once I reach the
very bottom of the screen, the "p"s scroll up with the rest of the
text, but come back again from the bottom. I believe this is a memory
problem, but I do not know if I am correct. Do you know what could be
causing this? If so, how could I fix it?
* Curt at Atari Museum asked:
Anyone ever recovered one of the original IMP's and restored it back to
a functional state?
Curt
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Please define which product you mean by IMP. There was an early
microprocessor from National. There was marvelous early bit slice 16 bit
machine by that name ( I know where a couple in beautiful shape are, still
running.)
And finally, there were the early DARPA name servers on the early internet
ancestor. Several people on the list are looking for those, but I haven't
heard of any surviving.
Billy
