test-drb August 2006

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by Watzman＠neo.rr.com

Re: >Barry Watzman wrote: >> I think TIFF is a mistake; I'd use JPEG, at about 5K to 10K per square >inch for color, or about 1/3 that for monochrome. > >Umm, ten thousand dpi!? I don't think so--that's 10K per "square inch". Linear resolution would be the square root of that--100 dpi, no? Cheers, Chuck *************** You are not reading what I said. I never said ANYTHING about "pixels". When I said 10K per square inch, that was not a reference to "pixels", it was a reference to finished JPEG file size. E.g. 10,000 BYTES total file size per square inch. You can do that with 100 dpi resolution, and you can do that (using a lot more compression) with 600 dpi resolution. But I have found that if you have a JPEG whose total file size is 5,000 to 10,000 bytes per square inch (500k to 1 megabyte for an 8.5" x 11" color page), then in my experience there will be NO detectable degradation compared to a lossless file format, for purposes of viewing, printing or OCR (but monochrome images can be a lot smaller than that). Again, the file size of a JPEG file is independent of resolution, the issue is "how much compression are you going to use". And I have no argument that if you use too much compression, the quality will be crap. But, at the same time, there is too much emotion connected with the fact that JPEG is "lossy" and TIFF is "lossless". If neither a person nor an OCR program can detect a difference, then the "losses" can be concluded to be both insignificant and irrelevant. It's not like an executable program where all losses are absolutely unacceptable. JPEG can be crap if you use a lot of compression, but if you don't get carried away and keep the compression low to moderate, I maintain that a JPEG file is indistinguishable from a TIFF file for all practical purposes. By the way, several people have asked what resolution I scan at, and the answer is 300 DPI MINIMUM for everything, but I sometimes scan at 600 dpi if there is extremely fine detail present. I've used 600 dpi for some schematics where the "original" in a manual was a blueprint-sized page reduced to 8.5" x 11" (or even 11" x 17") and it was already at the point where you needed a magnifying glass to read it.

19 years, 1 month

Old video boards

by segin2005＠gmail.com

I have recently went looking through my crap draw, and have come across two things of interest: an ATI GRAPHICS SOLUTION CGA/MDA video card. The only noticable defect is a damaged componet (capicator?) on the corner. An EGA/VGA 2-in-1 card. Dunno how it handles VGA modes with a EGA monitor, cause I don't have a EGA monitor or a ISA box without integrated video. A complete, working ESDI drive and controller. I can't use it cause I dunno what the hell the settings are. Image: http://segin.no-ip.org/computers/ (look near the bottom) An old MIDI program for Windows 95/98, called "CakeWalk Professional 7". Dunno if that's intresting, but I need the serial code for it (it has a serial AND a CD-KEY... I have the key on the original slimline jewel case)... And no, this isn't a warez beg. -- The real problem with C++ for kernel modules is: the language just sucks. -- Linus Torvalds

19 years, 1 month

RSX 3.2 sysgen

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Does anyone here know what the exact procedure is to generate an RSX-11M 3.2 > system from distribution RL01s to an RL02? I'll check if I have a 3.2 sysgen manual.

19 years, 1 month

PDP-8 /e/f/m memory

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Of 75 emails this morning, 44 (including 4 of mine) were on the subject of PDP-8 memory. From those only two provided any information on the subject. A few were well off track. Signal to noise -13db! In any other media that far down in the noise would be an unreadable signal. Allison

19 years, 1 month

The TIFF versus JPG debate

by Watzman＠neo.rr.com

Re: I thought PDF's could just be used to *encapsulate* regular TIFF's? I.e., in much the same way that they can encapsulate JPEGs, etc. It can; in fact, when you create a PDF from a scanner, encapsulation is all that Acrobat is doing, it's the scanner software that determines the format, which can be tiff, jpeg or some other formats that the scanner software supports. But by default, it is almost always JPEG.

19 years, 1 month

Catastrophe strikes Blue Feather's 'net presence

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Murphy's having some real fun with me this week... It seems that the failure of the outside world to access Blue Feather's FTP site was only the beginning. Within a couple of hours after I started troubleshooting last night, I discovered that our entire domain, including mail and web servers, had disappeared from the 'net. The problem turned out to be (and I never saw this coming) -- our firewall/router! It had, apparently, decided that it was simply going to give up the ghost, and not give ANY indication in its (alleged) self-diagnostics. No amount of power-cycling has fixed it, so I am going to replace it. Post-haste, I would add. The original unit was a Watchguard Firebox II that I got as a freebie, but Watchguard's current products are way too expensive for my tastes. If anyone knows of a good, solid VPN router, in the $400-$500 (max) range, with at least the following features I would appreciate hearing about it. I'm currently looking at Zyxel (the Zywall 5) and Multitech (RouteFinder 830). --Must support 1:1 NAT mapping. --Must support at least IPSec VPN with 3DES or AES encryption, and the VPN client must be low-cost or included. --Preferably, should also support PPTP for when IPSec is blocked at the originating end (I've seen it happen). --Must be RACK-MOUNTED, as in it has rack ears or brackets. This is NOT negotiable. --The manufacturer must NOT, unlike Watchguard and Juniper Networks, nickle-and-dime its users to death for extra features. Thanks much, and I apologize for the hassles. I never saw this one coming... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?"

19 years, 1 month

Scanning formats (TIFF vs. JPEG)

by Watzman＠neo.rr.com

Re: I think his point was "adjust quality factor so resulting image file has a size of ~10KB per sq in of original document". E.g., A size is ~90 sq in so target a 1MB file size. (note that this would correspond to an UNCOMPRESSED TIFF scanned at 300dpi! -- did I do the math right? -- in which case, the whole argument starts to fall apart since a 300dpi TIFF *compressed* would be much smaller! Or, for that given size, a COMPRESSED TIFF could be scanned at a much higher resolution) **************** You do understand what I was saying; unlike others, you understood that I was talking about resulting file size, not pixels. However, in the last paragraph, you missed one point, which was that my guideline of 5k to 10K per square inch was for color photographs. For monochrome, I cut that by 2/3, so my guideline becomes more like 1.5k to 3k per square inch. And this is very conservative, for files that will be, for all practical purposes, indistinguishable from the original. For many if not most uses, you can actually go a lot smaller.

19 years, 1 month

PDP-8 /e/f/m memory

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: PDP-8 /e/f/m memory > From: Don <THX1138 at dakotacom.net> > Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:36:04 -0700 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >Allison wrote: >>> But cache RAM is power hungry and has little practical chance >>> of being converted to BBSRAM >> >> Most are not, few if any of mine are not. NOTE: many of those rams >> are CMOS and at high cycle rates the power needed is impressive but >> in standby and low cycle rates the power drops significantly! Often >> they are spec'd at they fastest cycle time for power use as thats how >> PCs used them. > >CMOS power dissipation is a direct function of clock frequency. >*But*, you will find that at DC (which is where the device >operates when in sleep mode) there are huge differences in the >static Icc between different grades of SRAMs -- from the same >manufacturer and P/N. I thought I'd said that. Bit of work history, engineer and product engineer for a semi company that sold micros and ram. Allison

19 years, 1 month

PDP-8 /e/f/m memory

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: PDP-8 /e/f/m memory > From: Don <THX1138 at dakotacom.net> > Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:33:25 -0700 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >> Because most batteries have shelf life! The average battery dies in >> a few years from just sitting. The LI cells are designed for very long life. >> I have a few sub-C sized LI cells that are over 15 years old and going strong. > >The shelf life (self discharge rate) of most batteries is *MANY* >YEARS. The AAA cells I bought last year for my Visor have a >"expiration date" of 2013. While your wailing about your maglites your also talking about that mere 7 year shelf life. >A low power BBRAM design essentially falls below this self >discharge rate (unless you get sloppy with the design). >The real problem is ensuring that the batteries (i.e. the >equipment that they are stored in) doesn't sit in >temperature extremes, high humidity, etc. Yes, I know this from my first CMOS design back in the late 70s. Heat is a big factor even for the leakage current of the CMOS. >And, if you're storing your '8 in those conditions, I suspect >one of these days you'll be in for an unhappy surprise as >you "suddenly" discover components that have fatigued What has this to to do with the topic at hand? Allison

19 years, 1 month

Vax parts needed (commercial)

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I received the following email.... >We are still using 2 VAX 9440s and 2 9210 computer mainframes at our >facility in Colorado Springs, Colorado. We are having problems finding >some parts, MCUs for the CPUs. Any help is appreciated. If anyone can help with parts for these machines please contact me off-list. Jay

19 years, 1 month

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test-drb August 2006