(sounds like a stevie wonder song, "r-g-b...and l-c-d..." (ugg, clearly I've
had too much coffee).
I have an old computer from the '80s and it has a frame buffer with
RGB+S (sync) output on classic BNC connectors.
Back in the day I'd go find a suitable (unbearably heavy) RGB monitor and
4 coax cables and connect the two.
But I find myself without any RBG monitors these days. But I do have a
bunch of new-ish LCD monitors which seem quite happy to sync up to
pretty much anything.
So, can I just (somehow) connect the RBG+S signals to a mondern LCD?
Has anyone tried this?
I haven't even thought about it electrically so this may be thinking out
loud. Most of these lcd monitors seem to have VGA signals. I did once
have a DW13 to RBG/BNC connector. And I think I have a DW13 to VGA
adapter... Is that the right way to go?
I don't know anything about the frame buffer in this thing. I suspect
it's some sort of 640x480x8 device. I can do some digging. (it's a
Symbolics 3630 lisp machine in case you are wondering, a so called
"g-machine", where they put the original 3600 into a small number of
Any advise appreciated...
> You refer to sending all of your HP docs to Al for scanning. I don't
> know who Al is; please can you provide the link to his site.
That would be me. I've been completely consumed for the past three months
putting the Computer History Museum's software collection together. What I
have pdf'ed is at bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/
I need to get this stuff back to Joe ASAP.
First of all, I am enjoying the discussions coming from cctech. It's
encouraging to know that there are others out there with the collecting and
In answer to Bernd Kopriva's comments:
>Another issue : is it possible to boot from the floppy within the 9133 ?
I can only boot from another
>9122 that is connected, but not with the 9133 build in drive, later it's
possible to use it normally
My understanding is that with bootrom 3, or later, it should be possible to
boot from any HP-IB attached storage device. That's probably provided the
system booted then provides support for additional drive types which can be
loaded as required. This is the situation with Basic 3.0, and later, where
the system file SYSTEM_BA3 doesn't know about Amigo or CS80 devices, but the
necessary BIN files can be loaded immediately after booting (by the
bootrom). Pascal has to have the support available, but should boot I
Your comment about checking the disk format is also very valid. It took me
a while to realise that the floppy in my 9153C drive was HD floppy
compatible! That's after having it in storage for many years.
I am getting back into this stuff which is where I started all those years
ago. Two questions:
1. You refer to sending all of your HP docs to Al for scanning. I don't
know who Al is; please can you provide the link to his site.
2. Did you find your pascal install version? I have version 2.0 and 3.0.
Unfortunately, I've lost the 'IO' file from the 3.0 version (disk read
error), which leaves me unable to compile. So I'm looking for that. Did I
have a backup? No. Have I learnt a lesson??????? Have I now made copies
of the other disks (640k format)?
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I'm researching early RAID, circa 1987.
Interested in applications beyond RAID 0.
Have heard that Polymorphic Systems had RAID boxes; perhaps model 88XX
Any information is appreciated.
>BTW, the text is supposed to get displayed on the 25th line
>(the "status line"). If you don't have an HP compatible terminal,
>or emulator, you can get a free one for Windows at
Aha! that explains all the garbage characters and why it doesn't seem to put in <CR> when I'm in CM.
Currently running on a WY-150+. Seems to work O.K. once it's bootstrapped.
Guess I'll keep my eye out for a HP 700 terminal (or maybe not, I have the Wyse
doubling for my VAX). Perhaps I'll try the HP emulator (if it runs under WINE) first
to see if it's "worth it" to have a HP terminal.
Classic computers sighting: on the TechRepublic web site:
Dinosaur sightings: Vintage computers from the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s
Whether it was a Honeywell 400, Altair 8800, Timex Sinclair, Radio Shack
TRS-80, or Commodore 64, IT pros usually remember their first computer. But
nothing lasts forever. State-of-the-art hardware eventually becomes
obsolete and fades into computer history. The following galleries contain
photos of the outdated computers that fill museums, supply closets, storage
lockers, and techie basements everywhere. See the machines that defined the
information age and the hardware that made them run.
Inside the first personal computer: Kenbak-1
The Kenbak-1 is considered by many to be the world's first "Personal
Computer." Erik Klein, vintage computer collector and Webmaster of
Vintage-Computer.com, takes you inside his Kenbak-1.
Inside the Altair 8800 vintage computer
If not the first home computer, Ed Roberts' Altair 8800 was definitely the
first successful one. Watch as Erik Klein, vintage computer collector and
Webmaster of Vintage-Computer.com, restores one of these classic machines.
Dinosaur Sightings: Computers from 1980-1983
The 1980s was a decade when cool cops patrolled the streets of Miami and
Reaganomics drove US fiscal policy. It was also the decade when PCs went
mainstream. This gallery showcases several 1980-1983 machines from Steven
Stengel's vintage computer collection.
Dinosaur Sightings: Computers from 1984-1989
As the year of George Orwell's totalitarian future passed us by, PC
technology took tremendous steps forward-including the first GUI. This
gallery showcases several 1984-1989 machines from Steven Stengel's collection.
Dinosaur Sightings: Computers from the 1970s
During the disco days of the 1970s, personal computers moved out of the
electronic hobbyist's garage or basement and into the office, classroom,
and family den. This gallery showcases several 1970-era machines from
Steven Stengel's vintage computer collection.
Inside the Commodore Pet 2001 vintage computer
The Commodore PET 2001 was the first fully integrated computer from
Commodore. Erik Klein, vintage computer collector and Webmaster of
Vintage-Computer.com, shows you the hardware that makes the Commodore PET
Dinosaur sightings: Old-school computer hardware
As giant lizards once roamed our planet, so did mammoth machines once
balance our checkbooks. From ENIAC to RadioShack's TRS-80, this gallery
contains photos of the outdated computer hardware.
Dinosaur Sightings 2
From a Honeywell 400 to an Atari 800, TechRepublic members share their
favorite photos of old-school computer equipment is this second edition of
our Dinosaur Sightings photo gallery.
Dinosaur Sightings 3
From an IBM 5251 Display Station to a Commodore SX-64, TechRepublic
members share 16 new photos of old-school computer equipment in this third
edition of our Dinosaur Sightings photo gallery.
Dinosaur Sightings: SPARCstation Collection
Take a walk down Sun's memory lane, with John Dunn's collection of 17
different SPARCstation machines.
More creative uses for dead computer equipment
IT departments and end users often donate, recycle, or trash obsolete
computer equipment. But more often than ever before, individuals are using
dead computer hardware in creative and interesting ways.
Worst tech in Q2 2006
Like with a bad movie that achieves cult status because it's just that bad,
we love to hate something about these unlucky 13 products and downloadable
duds from the past three months.
A trip down HP's memory lane
In 1960, when Hewlett-Packard built offices, the facility was state of the
art and evoked the new frontier. Now, it's a nostalgic reminder of a time
when people smoked in their offices and nearly every available surface was
covered with simulated wood paneling.
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what if you drill your holes first? Would that at all
alleviate the problems experienced with a double sided
etch? I figure I could lay out a copy of the artwork,
dimple each hole with an awl or whatever, then drill ,
which will hopefully facilitate accurate placement of
the transfer sheets. Farming out is likely to be
expensive I guess on a very small quantity. The board
is about 7.5 inches square (Radio Electronics 80188
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Good news is in- HP-UX 11i v1 (Sept 2005 version, the one that currently ships)
will run on NOVA class PA-RISC hardware (9000/887 G70).
Do yourself a favor and don't try to install using the factory shipped (2x) CD-ROM, though.
You need to do the manual install, and you need huge quantities of disk space (I had to trim the
default install to fit it on 4GB). Speed is acceptable with dual CPUs and 768 MB RAM, don't know
what it would be like on other systems.