Begin forwarded message:
> From: Bruce Damer <bdamer at digitalspace.com>
> Date: June 14, 2006 1:35:39 PM GMT-04:00
> To: evan at snarc.net
> Cc: rborsuk at colourfull.com
> Subject: Re: FW: Digibarn
> Reply-To: bdamer at digitalspace.com
>
> OK the site is back up folks, thanks for letting us know, can you
> let classicmp know?
>
> b
>
> At 09:53 AM 6/14/2006, Evan Koblentz wrote:
>> Bruce, this message was seen on classiccmp's cctalk today (see
>> below).
>> Apparently your site is down.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Borsuk [mailto:rborsuk at colourfull.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:49 PM
>> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>> Subject: Digibarn
>>
>> Is Digibarn gone?
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob Borsuk
>> email: rborsuk at colourfull.com
>> Colourfull Creations
>> Web: http://www.colourfull.com
>
>
> DigitalSpace
> 343 Soquel Avenue, # 70
> Santa Cruz CA 95062-2305 USA
> bdamer at digitalspace.com
>
> http://www.digitalspace.com
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>
>
Would anyone like a big box of solaris 2.1,2.2,2.3 cdrom + manuals?
Solaris and answer book and some tech pubs also.
yours for the cost of shipping...
-brad
After five years of accreting information into my Wang 2200 web site,
Jay's generous hosting offer prodded me into action. I've revamped my
web site and put everything under a new domain name:
http://www.wang2200.org/
I've used xenu (http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html) to verify all
of my links, but with 21 web pages that got converted, I could have
messed up in any number of ways. If you visit and spot anything weird,
please let me know. If you are still using netscape 4, sorry, the pages
will look pretty bad because I'm using css to style the pages now. I've
tested it under firefox, ie 6, and opera 8. The pages were designed to
assume a minimum screen width of 800 pixels.
Since the discussion came up on this list a few weeks ago, here is how I
put my pages together. First I played around with one page and css
until I was more familiar with css and had a "look" that was OK. I then
converted each page, by hand, to using css and removing tables wherever
they weren't necessary. Each page was validated against the w3c xhtml
validator. There was still a lot of common code in all of these pages,
so I wrote a perl script that reads in a "schema", containing a template
plus a list of pages to apply the template to. Each page is processed
and emitted to final directory. This way I can, say, change the
navigation menu in the schema and it will get automatically updated in
all the 21 pages that have a menu. This perl script also provides for
subroutines and variable substitution so that I can define, say, a color
in one place and my css and html pages can reference the variable and
all get updated with the one color value. It took a couple evenings to
write but I'm happy I spent the time.
Thanks again Jay.
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 20:22:42 +0100 (BST),
> ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
>
>>> I would assume it's a linear (as opposed to area) CCD. Now, I
>>> spent many
>>> years playing tricks with CCDs, and one thing that's burnt into
>>> my memory
>>> is that the drive pulses are critical. Not mild;y critical, but
>>> _very_
>>> critical.
>>
>> OK, scratch that idea, then :-)
>
> If you think how a CCD basically works, it has a series of electrodes
> (normally 3 or 4 'phase' drive) on the surface of the chip, by
> sequencing
> the votlages on these electrodes, you move the accumulated charge
> along.
> Charge transfer actually occurs as the voltages are changing, which
> means
> the rise/fall time, and to a lesser extent the shape of the
> rising/falling edge matters. Too steep can be a problem. I spent
> many a
> late night looking at the 'scope and adding low-value series
> resistors to
> slow things down a bit.
>
Alas, the world has moved on : check out <http://
pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/47490/SONY/ILX508A.html>.
The clock generators are built in - you input a read-out gate, and a
clock to move things around. There is a sample-and-hold (built in).
Nothing really critical like in the old days playing with Reticon
sensors. I ran across a bunch of 2088 pixel chips and had one beast
running in less than 15 minutes... These sensors are over 10 yo.
CRC
Jay West wrote:
> If a signature is offensive, obtrusive, or antagonistic [...]
Only a Sith deals in absolutes. ;-)
> you can bet I will tell someone to remove it without hesitation.
You can do that, but you'd be out of bounds, there. You could tell
them to not use it on your list, though.
> Perhaps I'm grouchy this morning, but this phraseology above hits
> me as "posting here is my right" which it most certainly is not;
> it's a privilege.
Well, then I guess it hit you wrong. I don't think anyone suggested
that posting to this list is a right rather than a privilege.
> Putting certain political/social/religious sentiments in a post,
> be it a signature or in the body, is simply not allowed. This policy
> isn't because I'm anti-politics, on the contrary, I'm a political
> junkie. But this is not a political discussion list and and
> someone spouting political rhetoric (on either side of the
> aisle) is bound to tick someone off.
well, if that's the touchstone, you might as well shut the list down
right now, because *any* opinion on *anything* (including classic
computing) is boud to piss *someone* off.
,xtG
tsooJ
Jules Richardson wrote:
> When all is said and done, the actual number of people who think top-posting
> is the right thing to do is *very* thin on the ground - but some popular
> applications do force peoples' hands somewhat.
As the saying goes: "posting at the top because that's where your cursor
happens to be, is like defecating in your pants because that's where your
rectum happens to be."
>> I dislike signatures, mainly because some claim corporate property or
>> confidentiality which makes little sense. There are a few that have
>> politically oriented signatures which has absolutely no place on the
>> list (ok, that one is policy-ish ;) ). If it was trivial to do, I think
>> I'd set the list to automatically remove all signatures
>
> See my other post - problem there is that a fair number of posters *do*
> include useful, legitimate contact details in their sigs. Often that may be
> something as simple as info on how to remove any spam traps from their
> displayed email address.
My own signatures are mostly just things I find funny, thought-provoking,
somewhat important, or otherwise worthy of randomly inserting at the very
bottom of my emails, denoted by an appropriate seperator, of course.
Some may find some of my signatures offensive for reasons religious or
political, but "feh!" I say to that. I was taught that (the contents of)
signatures are off-limits for dicussion. Dunno what, if any, RFC that is in.
If it isn't in one, it should be. The sig file represents our fifteen pieces
of flair. We do want to express ourselves, don't we?
I do take care to add at least some rudimentary contact info (or a plug
for my own site which hardly deserves plugging) to them, though. Fot that
reason alone I am of the opinion that sigs shouldn't be stripped. They are a
minor inconvenience at worst, and a welcome diversion from heated discussion
that reminds us all that there is more to life than banned substances in
components and the proper use of IC sockets, at best.
> I'm sure it's possible to strip sigs - even if it's a tweak and recompile of
> the mail list software - but it's a potentially bad thing to do even though it
> would get rid of the moronic junk that some companies insist on adding to
> employee emails :-(
>
> Actually, dumping any sig with the word 'confidential' in it would probably
> nuke nearly all the legalese ones, and dropping any with 'virus' in would get
> the ones inserted by AV software (despite this list being text-only and so the
> info is unnecessary) :-)
>
> So it probably *could* be done. Is it worth the effort? No. :-)
Hear, hear.
,xtG
tsooJ
I've received the following from Dave McGuire, who is a fellow DEC
collector (some of you know him):
> Hey folks. I just had a disturbing conversation with an eBay seller
> up in Canada. One of his auctions was for DRAM chips "for gold scrap"
> that he claimed to have "removed from some old DEC computer". I sent
> him a question asking him what happened to the rest of it, and
> reminding him that "some old DEC computer" was likely worth orders of
> magnitude more than the trivial amount of gold that one might glean
> from recycling DRAM chips.
>
> He replied with this:
>
>> Not anymore. In case you haven't noticed, the market for DEC PDP
>> stuff is gone. All of the collectors have as much as they want and
>> nobody is actually using Qbus anymore. The same happened about a year
>> ago with IBM MCA stuff. You can't even get $10 a card anymore. I've
>> shipped out hundreds of pounds of DEC Qbus and IBM MCA for scrap
>> metals. You should do the same.
>
> This is, of course, COMPLETELY incorrect, aside from being
> disturbing. The DEC collector market is booming like never before,
> and growing like crazy.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman at dittman.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tim Riker
> Sent: dinsdag 13 juni 2006 7:00
> To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: Top Posting and Message Trimming
>
> Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> >>Another thing to avoid is adding a footer like the above
> claiming that
> >>this message is in any way protected. This is NOT a private list.
> >>Archives are online. If you believe that the message you
> are sending
> >>should not be going to the general public, then DO NOT POST.
> >>
> >>I would recommend that the mail list reject any messages
> with such a
> >>clause attached to them.
> >
> >
> > Some people can't control for this, though. My work address adds on
> > such crap automatically, and if it's the only address they have ...
>
> Anyone can get a gmail account or similar.
>
> > Naturally I use my home E-mail for this sort of stuff.
>
> Exactly what I'd recommend. :)
>
> --
> Tim Riker - http://rikers.org/ - TimR at Debian.org Embedded
> Linux Technologist BZFlag maintainer - http://BZFlag.org/ - for fun!
>
>
I am sorry, but I can not strip that footer, and you know that. And no,
I use e-mail server, and I am not going to get a gmail or whatever
account.
It is a sad thing to see that the less tolerant attitude of the world
is catching up on this list of old computers addicts.
If I post to this list, it is always on topic. You will have a difficult
time finding a reply on one of the *many* garbage threads on this list!
If more people are "offended" by a footer, that I can not control, there
are two options. 1) you see that I posted a message, so just delete it.
Put me in your kill file. 2) Tell me, and I wil never reply to anything
on this list.
I would not want to ruin anybody's day because he sees a footer in my
reply. And to keep my reply count low, I am not replying on this thread
anymore. Yes, I will keep reading this list, because I *learn* from some
of the posters on this list.
- Henk, PA8PDP.
BTW, sorry for the footer (if it appears)
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