"Gooijen, Henk" <henk.gooijen at oce.com> wrote:
> OK, I am a bit biased about information in wiki.
> I prefer to believe that Johnny has it correct, and then wiki.
> I will look up the notes of my previous Zemu attempt
> and set up RT11 in SIMH.
Thanks for the vote of confidence. :-)
I checked out the Wiki information, and it's very good in this case. But
it says more or less exactly the same as I wrote. But it gives some more
details (hence more words...) :-)
Johnny
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Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org namens John Foust
Verzonden: ma 24-04-2006 21:45
Aan: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: DUNGEON
At 02:24 PM 4/24/2006, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>People have been bouncing ZORK, DUNGEON and Infocom around a while now.
>>Let's clear this up once and for all (I hope).
I didn't hunt for inconsistencies, but there's plenty of detail at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zorkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Cave_Adventure
- John
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"Jim Beacon" <jim at g1jbg.co.uk> wrote:
>
> for anyone that's following this thread, I've tried this version:
>
> http://vms.tuwien.ac.at/freewarev40/000000/
>
> and can't get it to work.
>
> The straight download has an error in one of the .DAT files, and the
zipped
> version has incorrect references in the executable :(
That's the FORTRAN version.
There are a couple of "problems". The DTEXT.DAT file is a fixed record
size file. That will not transfer well over http, or most ftp programs.
In VMS, you could (if you transferred the file in binary) probably do a
SET FILE to change the attributes after transfer.
Let me know if you need more info here.
As for problems with the zipped version, I have no clues...
But all you would need from the ZIP-archive is the DAT-files (which
might be restored correctly from there), and then you can use whatever
.EXE file you might find.
Johnny
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email: bqt at update.uu.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
"Gooijen, Henk" <henk.gooijen at oce.com> wrote:
> Cool! Thanks Jim.
> Ethan's and your response have exact the same hh:mm time stamp!
> (at least on my computer).
> For my 11/750 I will need a copy of some OpenVMS version first, because I
> promised to wipe the disks, otherwise I could only get the system without
> the disks. I wanted the cab with the three RA81's too, and the HSC70,
> although I am not sure if the HSC70 will ever be useful as the L0009 and
> internal cabling is not in the 11/750.
> And I have read that you need besides the L0009 more stuff ... need
to find
> out what the HSC70 requires, and maybe I come to the conclusion that the
> HSC70 is only taking up space ... I am not planning to build a cluster
> (don't know anything about that stuff either), but ... never say
never > :-)
The HSC will require a CI750, which is a whole cabinet of it's own.
If you don't have that one, you're out of luck.
> I posted a request for Zork (PDP-11) on Amazon a year ago, but
> never had any response. So, your link to the VMS version is great!
Hmm. I saw that ZEMU was mentioned later in this discussion as well, but
let me start by asking if you're talking about the Infocom commercial
release, or the FORTRAN port called DUNGEON is what you're thinking of?
Anyway, ZEMU exists, and works just fine. However, Megan have not done
anything in a long while, so I'm not sure if it works as is on RT-11 or
not. If someone who have RT-11 is willing to look at it, I'd be grateful.
The RSX version is just fine, though. Anyone who wants to try, just log
into MIM.
--------------
Junk:/home/bqt> telnet mim.update.uu.se
Trying 130.238.19.211...
Connected to mim.update.uu.se.
Escape character is '^]'.
This is MIM.Update.UU.SE
>
hel guest/guest
RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6 BL87mP [1,54] System MIM
23-APR-06 00:38 Logged on Terminal TT4: as GST47
Good Morning
*****************************************************************
* *
* Welcome to RSX-11M-PLUS *
* *
* Version 4.6 Base level 87 *
* *
* This is Mim.Update.UU.SE *
* (Running on E11) *
*****************************************************************
If you have any problems, or want to ask questions, don't
be afraid to write me a mail.
MIM is a E11 replacement for Magica, which can't be run 24/7 right now
because of costs. Magica is still around, and occasionally online.
The E11 license for MIM was kindly donated by John Wilson of DBIT.
(Check out www.dbit.com for more information).
*** Try HELP FUN for more fun ***
*** Try HELP LOCAL for information about compilers and stuff on MIM ***
*** A small FAQ have been written. Do "MORE FAQ" ***
*** Note that help on compiling and linking are available at HELP LOCAL ***
Johnny (bqt at update.uu.se)
Last interactive login on Friday, April 21, 2006 21:19:22 (TT4:)
Last batch login on Saturday, August 9, 1997 17:36:13
$ @LB:[1,2]SYSLOGIN.CMD
What is your name? Johnny
RSX-11M-PLUS BL87mP (MIM ) 1920K PDP-11/74 at 00:38:50.8, 23-APR-06
Users=3 Idle=100% Task=.IDLE. Up: 7 days, 22:53. Ticks=3 Errseq=0.
user task uic pri where state size(K) ioc par
JOHNNY AT.T4 * [ Self ] 64 TT4 Stopped 4/23 GEN
J Billquist MCET44 [ Oper ] 50 _TT44 Stopped 2/8 GEN
J Billquist MCET5 [ Oper ] 50 _TT5 Stopped 2/8 GEN
JOHNNY WHOT4 * [ Self ] 50 TT4 Running 1/4 GEN
Welcome to Magica.
This is a guest account. Please behave.
If you'd like an account of you own, write an email to
Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> saying so.
Please also include the following information about you:
1) Your full name.
2) A working email address to you. (Not an anonymous one)
3) A line or two about who you are.
4) A password for your account.
If you have any other requests or wishes, just include them too, and
we'll see what can be fixed.
/Johnny
$ zem /li
-- System games --
Game Release Serial Inform Z-Machine
ADVENT 5 961209 6.05 5
AMFV 77 850814 4
BALLYHOO 97 851218 3
BEYONDZOR 57 871221 5
BOMBER 3 971123 6.13 5
BORDERZON 9 871008 5
BUREAUCRA 116 870602 4
CUTTHROAT 23 840809 3
DEADLINE 27 831005 3
DOGSLIFE 1 981015 6.15 5
DUNGEON 12 990623 6.14 5
ENCHANTER 29 860820 3
HITCHHIKE 31 871119 5
HOLLYWOOD 37 861215 3
INFIDEL 22 830916 3
LEATHER 59 860730 3
LURKING 203 870506 3
MOONMIST 9 861022 3
NORDANDBE 19 870722 4
PLANETFAL 37 851003 3
PLUNDERER 26 870730 3
SAMEGAME 1 980731 6.15 5
SEASTALKE 16 850603 3
SHERLOCK 21 871214 5
SORCERER 15 851108 3
SPACEZ 1 980710 6.15 5
SPELLBREA 87 860904 3
STARCROSS 17 821021 3
STATIONFA 107 870430 3
SUSPECT 14 841005 3
SUSPENDED 8 840521 3
TRINITY 12 860926 4
WISHBRING 69 850920 3
WITNESS 22 840924 3
ZOKOBAN 1 990810 6.21 5
ZORK1 88 840726 3
ZORK2 48 840904 3
ZORK3 17 840727 3
ZTUU 16 970828 6.13 5
$
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Oh, and the FORTRAN version is also around:
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$ dun
Welcome to Dungeon. This version created 16-Jan-03.
This is an open field west of a white house with a boarded front door.
There is a small mailbox here.
A rubber mat saying "Welcome to Dungeon!" lies by the door.
>history
Revision history:
16-Jan-03 Backport to RSX-11M-PLUS (V3.2C).
20-Oct-94 Bug fixes (V3.2B).
01-Oct-94 Bug fixes (V3.2A).
01-Feb-94 Portable VMS/UNIX version (V3.1A).
01-Jan-90 Portable version (V3.0A).
18-Oct-80 Revised DECUS version (V2.6A).
18-Jul-80 Transportable data base file (V2.5A).
28-Feb-80 Compressed text file (V2.4A).
15-Nov-79 Bug fixes (V2.3A).
18-Jan-79 Revised DECUS version (V2.2A).
10-Oct-78 Puzzle Room (V2.1A).
10-Sep-78 Endgame (V2.0A).
10-Aug-78 DECUS version (V1.1B).
14-Jun-78 Public version with parser (V1.1A).
04-Mar-78 Debugging version (V1.0A).
>quit
Your score would be 0 [total of 616 points], in 2 moves.
This gives you the rank of Beginner.
Do you wish to leave the game?
y
Ok.
$
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Johnny
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|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at update.uu.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
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From: Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
Subject: need info on an HP 8-bit scsi card
To: tech <cctech at classiccmp.org>
has an NCR 53c400 chip, an als245, and not much else.
4 dip swiches, presumably (hopefully) for setting the
id. I have plans for this bad boy...
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Does it have a DB25 female connector at the back?
If so, its probably a SCSI adapter for one of the older HP Scanjets like
the 4C.
Glen.
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Never used it yet, but there is a program (G4U) that is based on NetBSD and (is rumored to) perform arbitrary drive cloning. Not sure what hardware platforms it runs on.
I'm trying to get my PDP-8/e running a "real" OS (as opposed to loading
programs one at a time from papertape).
I've had an RX02 drive (supposedly working) in my possession for some
time, and I just need to find a working M8357 to seal the deal. I
currently have a non-functional M8357 -- I get an error code from the
dirxac diagnostic that translates to "Unexpected Transfer Request
Flag." I'm not much of a hardware hacker, unfortunately, so I'm in no
position to debug/repair the board.
If anyone out there has an M8357 they're willing to part with, or has
the ability to repair these things, please let me know.
Thanks!
Josh
After some more searching, it appears that the whole disk
device suffix has changed from 'c' to 'd' and as such if
I use /dev/rwd1d as the destination, it doesn't complain.
I'll know more after it completes in a few hours.
Sorry to bother people with stupid questions...
I'm still curious if Partition Magic and/or Ghost are able
to copy raw disks.
--tnx
--tom
>I have a pair of IDE hard drives and I want to do a raw copy
>from one to the other. I've tried a couple of different approaches
>so far without much luck.
>
>My first experiment was with linux where I created a PC linux
>boot CD and hooked my two drives up planning to just dd from
>one drive's raw device to the other. To my amazement, I discovered
>that linux does not have a raw disk I/O capability by default.
>I tried using the block devices, but the resulting copy was
>not intact. After doing a bit of searching, I discovered that
>there is some sort of rawio extension which allows a raw device
>to be associated with a block device, but it also said that dd
>would not work with this raw device due to buffer alignment
>issues vs. DMA. Go figure...
>
>My second attempt was with a NetBSD 3.0 install CD, exiting to
>the shell and trying dd from rwd0a to rwd1a. I know that back
>in the dark ages, this was possible, but apparently in these
>modern times things have changed. When I try to do this I receive
>a read only error on the /dev/rwd1a device. When the PC boots,
>the wdX information goes by to quickly to read and the dmesg
>command is not present on the install CD image.
>
>Is what I want to do possible (anymore)? Do I have to resort
>to purchasing Partition Magic or Ghost or something like that?
>Do these programs even work on raw disks which have no file
>system?
>
>--tnx
>--tom
There is a minor "bug" in Nabil's hardware mods for adding reader run (CTS) to
a KL8-JA. In #5 of his writeup, he states "Jumper from pin 7 of E39 ...". It
should read "Jumper from pin 6 of E39 ..."
Cheers,
Lyle
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Lyle Bickley
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
Mountain View, CA
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
