Since this list has a number of people that are very knowledgable on the
subject :
Am i correct in thinking that, given a custom FDC, i could run a modern
1.44 floppy in FM mode, and at much lower data rates i.e. (say 50 KHz.) ?
Background : I am musing on how to give a small amount of storage, say
around 100kb, to a very small low tech cpu.
I do not care about speed and efficiency.
I am aware that IDE-based solutions are simpler, both hard- and software
wise, but I would prefer a floppy based solution.
Jos Dreesen
>>Surviving systems from before 1975 are very rare animals, esp mainframes,
>>since so many of them have been scrapped for precious metals. Sadly, there
>>is even less software that has survived. CHM didn't start seriously
>>collecting documentation nor software prior to the move to the West Coast in
>>the 90's. While they have an impressive collection of hardware, and a pretty
>>decent collection of US computer documentation now, the software holdings
>>pre 1975 are minimal.
How many 1970s era or earlier mainframes are actually up and running
(or in working condition) somewhere? I have not really followed mainframe
collecting, although I did work on IBM 370 and 30xx mainframes in the 1980s.
Ashley
Hi Jules and all
>I suppose my Acorn System One is probably my smallest system - two Eurocards,
Sharp PC 1500.
Used it while studying. Had all my formulas in there, from integration
to hex conversion.
"Tricked it out" by adding a 32K ram on a PCB in the place of the normal
16K memory module.
I have the manuals to program the thing in assembler so it definitely
counts as a computer not a programmable calculator (I do regard the
smaller Sharp jobbies as glorified calculators even if they have
BASIC and a full mini-keyboard.
W
I've got 3 16"x9" (approx) boards here, 2 of which are RX02 related, the
other I'm not so sure.
The first 2:
M7744 RX02 Floppy Disk Controller
M7745 RX02 R/W Control
.
The 3rd, covered in (mostly) 74xxx logic with 5 berg connectors, no DEC
style letter+4 digit code, just the words 'DRIVE LOGIC' screened onto side
2.
No idea if they are working boards.
As I don't have any other kit they might conceivably be useful for, all are
free to anyone prepared to cover postage, bear in mind I'm in Chester, UK.
Cheers,
Pete
--
Pete Edwards
"Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future" - Niels
Bohr
On 10/29/06, Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> :-)
> I suppose my Acorn System One is probably my smallest system - two Eurocards,
> about 100 x 160 x 30mm in size, complete with built-in keypad, display, tape,
> and expansion interfaces.
>
> My Sinclair ZX81 is probably next - but of course lacks a display so needs a
> TV in order to really be useful...
>
> cheers
>
> Jules
>
Would my Microchip PIC18F1320s count? They're 18-pin DIP packages
with built-in serial port (USART), RAM, EEPROM data storage... But of
course it requires a tiny amount of support circuitry and a PC to burn
useful software onto it. (I did, however, have one hooked up to a
terminal to play Tic Tac Toe, though ;)
My actual smallest whole computer are probably my Apple Newton
MessagePads (OMP, 110, or 130). Second to that is my Dauphin DTR-1
with keyboard and pen, and the last of the complete small systems are
probably my Epson PX-8s, and my TRS-80 Model 100s. I miss my Timex
Sinclair 1000. Poor thing got stepped on by a careless friend one
day...
Josef
--
"I laugh because I dare not cry. This is a crazy world
and the only way to enjoy it is to treat it as a joke."
-- Hilda "Sharpie" Burroughs,
"The Number of the Beast" by Robert A. Heinlein
Since this list has a number of people that are very knowledgable on the
subject :
Am i correct in thinking that, given a custom FDC, i could run a modern
1.44 floppy in FM mode, and at much lower data rates i.e. (say 50 KHz.) ?
Background : I am musing on how to give a small amount of storage, say
around 100kb, to a very small low tech cpu.
I do not care about speed and efficiency.
I am aware that IDE-based solutions are simpler, both hard- and software
wise, but I would prefer a floppy based solution.
Jos Dreesen
On 31 Oct, 2006, at 18:01, cctech-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
> But when I think of mainframe I think of
> processor + storage along with a bunch of terminals attached; both
> of those
> systems are more data processors (albeit general purpose ones) than
> something
> capable of supporting several human users.
Except the older ones did not have terminals, sometimes not even for
the operator.
Surely anything which predates the Minicomputer is by definition a
mainframe, unless
it was designed as a peripheral processor rather than intended as a
central processor.
That would let out things like the CDC 1700 which is the first
machine I learnt assembler
code on as it was no longer needed to read cards and send the data to
the main 6600
which was several miles away.
> The machine had no stack, so I wrote one for it, and
> developed a stack oriented p-machine for it.
Do you still have this?
There is a version of SCOPE/Hustler running in simulation.
> Does anyone here have the necessary hardware
> and software to read a magnetic tape in HP 3000 Store Format?
I have the equipment to read the tape at the block level at the Museum.
We are looking for early verions of MPE (that would run on Series II or III)
as well.