On Jul 26 2005, 14:42, Jules Richardson wrote:
> I'm not sure how complex such a box would be. I *think* an ST506-
> interface drive looks pretty much like a big floppy, just with more
> heads. Far as I know, it doesn't do anything intelligent on the drive
> itself, just responds to head select / step commands from the
controller
> and reads or writes data.
Yes, except normally the step pulses are buffered, so you can send them
fast and the drive will handle them at the correct rate. At least, all
but the oldest drives do that. That's the main difference between
ST506 (not buffered) and ST412 interfaces.
> The bit I don't know is the nature of the data signal at the
interface -
> it uses +/- signal lines for both read and write data. I'm not sure
if
> that's an analogue signal or a digital one.
Digital.
> I don't think there's a need to handle anything complex in the
virtual
> drive. I believe an ST506 drive's purely a data store/replay device
and
> it knows nothing of the actual data stored on it - most of the
circuirty
> on board is presumably just motor control and head amplifiers /
filters.
Correct.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
<snip>
> I asked the author (Olivier De Smet) about his project. His reply:
> - Yes I hope to continue to develop it this summer
> - I hope to be able to use an HPIB pcmcia card to connect directly
> HPIB devices, I don't have an ISA HPIB card).
*IIRC*, I have an ISA adapter card with an IEEE-488 (?) female connector
at the plate. I can check this monday. I am donating the card for the
good cause ... if Olivier lives in The Netherlands. Otherwise, it would
be nice to get shipping costs refunded.
- Henk, PA8PDP.
I got bogged down in my other emulators, web
sites, and real life, and somebody beat me to the punch (oddly, it
isn't easy to
find -- you'd think one of the hp 8x sites would promote it.
--
ugh.. windows only and no sources.
anyone know anything about this (mentioned in the readme)
Thanks:
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Christoph Gie?elink for Emu42 sources (used to start this emulator)
Oops! I forgot to add that HP refers the HPL users to the HP 9825
Calculator manual for more details on HPL. There's an auction of E-bay
right now for a set of HP 9825 manuals. That's what reminded me about the
referral.
<ttp://cgi.ebay.com/HP-9825-computer-calculator-manuals_W0QQitemZ6788289667Q
QcategoryZ16210QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
Joe
At 09:58 AM 7/27/05 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>
>
>I was able to find HPL Operating Manual and Programming Update
>(09826-90040) on bitsavers website. I have HPL Operating Manual
>(98614-90010). Does anyone know if HPL Condensed Reference (98614-90020)
>is archived anywhere? Is there any other references available for HPL 2.1?
>
>Hutch
I just finished packing a BUNCH of HP manuals and shipping them to Al to
be scanned and archived. In the pile are several HPL manuals, a manual for
BTL (Board Test Language, a variation of HPL that was used on the 3060
circuit card test station) and a photocopy of the HPL Condensed Reference
Manual.
Joe
Hello Pat,
I was wondering if you had any luck yet in finding software for this
system. I've bought this system without software today and I'm stuck
with the same problem.
GreetZzz Romano
I'm still keeping an eye out for Commodore Pet software on cassette...if you
have anything, can you let me know? I'd really like to revive this machine!
Thanks,
Pete
Attention classiccmp-ers near Austin, Texas: I am running out of room, so it is
time to triage.
Over the years I had assembled nice HP-85, HP-85, and HP-87XM systems, along
with docs, accessories, software, etc, with the intention to one day write an
emulator for this family. Well, I got bogged down in my other emulators, web
sites, and real life, and somebody beat me to the punch (oddly, it isn't easy to
find -- you'd think one of the hp 8x sites would promote it. it is here:
http://www2.akso.de/files/series_80/Emulator/Series_80_Emu_Win.zip).
I'm keeping the 87 since it is the most capable. The 85 and 86B must go.
These are for pick up only in SW Austin -- if I wanted to pack them well enough
for shipment and slog them over to fedex, I'd instead sell them on ebay. I am
also unwilling to hold on to these for a long time (say, more than a month). No
cherry picking either -- take it all and throw out the stuff you don't want whem
I'm not looking. Sorry for being inflexible.
System #1 -- HP-85
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00085-15004 matrix rom
00085-15002 plotter rom
00085-15001 mass storage rom
00085-15003 input/output rom
82903A 16K memory module
82937A HPIB interface
spare printer drive belt (I don't think it is needed)
the built in printer works, but there is uneven printing (might be print head,
might be paper)
three rolls of thermal paper in apparently great shape
HP-85 financial decisions pack tape
five used DC-100 tapes
three shrinkwrapped DC-100 tapes
a box containing three pounds of unused DC-100 tapes
xerox copy of the hp 85 field service manual
82939A opt 002 serial interface (in box)
standard pac software manual (no software)
HP-85 owner's manual and programming guide
matrix rom manual
i/o programming guide
System #2 -- HP-86B
-------------------
built-in 128 KB RAM
built-in HPIB interface
external HP 82913A 12" B&W monitor
HP dust covers for the computer and monitor
82939A serial interface
monitor instructions
HP 85 owner's manual and programming guide
HP 85 i/o programming guide
File/80 owner's manual
Word/80 owner's manual, software
serial interface owner's manual
visicalc plus manual and three 5.25" floppy disks
Lock Software Market 86.1 technical analysis owner's manual
perhaps others
If more than one person is interested, I'll pick one based on an unspecified
weighting of response time, how easy they make it on me, and interest.
Thanks.
Today at work what I was really hoping to happen did happen.
I was given three working Commodore SX-64 machines. We are in the
process of consolidating to fit the lab into a smaller space and they're
throwing away tons of stuff.
There is a fourth SX-64 still in occasional use, and I was able to get
these machines by promising that if the one at work fails I will bring
in one of these to use in it's place. So I have all three machines, but
they're essentially 'non-transferrable' until we come up with a
replacement for the one on a fixture. Which will probably happen
eventually (and then I'll probably get a fourth SX-64.)
I also got a whole pile of mid-years DOS clone machines and misc. The
three most interesting machines are
1. An 'Expansion Box' chassis, i.e. a passive backplane with a card in
it and a card with a wide cable on it, meant to plug into another
chassis that has the CPU.
and
2. An old Wyse 386 machine that has a fairly curious construction. The
CPU is on a card plugged into a 'passive' backplane, and the Hard Drive
controller plugs in planar to the backplane. The HD controller appears
to be a fairly standard 'AT' type controller. This machine also has no
'standard' PC-type keyboard connector. There's a snap in connector
similar to a telephone connector, and on the same bracket area, a 9 pin
connector. There's a VGA ISA card plugged into the system, but is it
possible the machine would work with a serial console? The 'CPU' cards
plugged into the backplane are complex, with a bridge connecting two of
them on the opposite side, parallel to the backplane connectors.
3. (probably least interesting) An ALR 386 system. The big classic
'full AT' case and motherboard. The CPU is a 386DX-16 and it also has
the '387 coprocessor.
Anyhow, I consider it all a fairly good 'score' though the SX-64's
greatly eclipse all the PeeCee boxes.