test-drb July 2005

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by aek＠bitsavers.org

From some Foxboro brochure scans that I have: M/97400 - Mar 1964 based on the PDP-5 SPC400 - Apr 1969 based on the original PDP-8 FOX-1 - Jan 1971 FOX-2 - Jan 1972 based on the PDP-11/20 I'll see about getting these up on bitsavers as well. The Fox-1 CPU cabinet is pretty strange. It is 'X' shaped.

18 years, 11 months

HP 98xx manuals (3rd box+)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Ok that box wasn't quite full so I'm adding these loose manuals: 6) HP Series 200 Computers 9888A Bus Expander Installation and Service. 7) HP 98644A Asynchronous Serial interface Refeence Manual. 8) HP 98620 Direct Memroy Access Controller Installation Note. 9) HP 98625B HP-IB High Speed Disc Interface Hardware Reference Manual 10) HP 98622A GPIO Interface Installation. 11) HP 82906A Printer Owner's manual. 12) HP 98626A RS-232 Interface Installation. Joe Al & et al, OK, Third box! 1) HPL Operating Manual contains HPL Operating Manual and Programming Update for the HP 9826 and 9836 Computers, HP 9000 Series Computers Model 216/226/236 HPL Operating Manual, portions of a HP 3060 manual (the 3060 is a board test system that used a derivative of HPL called BTL (Board Test Language)), HPL Condensed Reference (photocopy) and HPL Operating Manual and Programming Update for the HP 9826 Computer (photocopy). 2) BASIC 3.0 Interfacing Techniques 3) Configuration Reference Manual includes two different Memory Configuration Wheels (maybe you can take them apart and scan everything then people can print it all out and make their own), Infotek Systems AM Series Memory Baord Instation and User's Manual, HP A1401A DIO-I Slot Upgrade Installation Guide, HP 9000 Series 300 Computer Systems Pricing Information (Oct 1988), HP 9000 Series 300 Models 310 and 320 Hardware Technical Data (Sept 1986), HP 9000 Series 300 Computers Configuration Reference Manual and several Installation Notes for HP memory cards. 4) Service Manual includes HP 98270F Powerfail Option Installation for the HP 9826 and 9836 Computers, HP 9000 Series 200 Computers Model 226/236 Service Manual. 5) BASIC Utilities Library for the HP Series 200 Computers includes some interesting Installation Notes and Programming Notes in the back including one on setting up the BASIC ROM card, also a brochure on the HP Series 200 Software available from HP. These are all in full size (8 1/2" x 11") three ring HP binders. Had enough yet Al? Or should I keep going? :-) Joe Previous I found another handy sized box so I packed up some more books. This lot includes: 1) Peripheral Installation Guide, HP 9000 Series 200/300 Computers & 35731 HP Monochrome Monitor Installation Guide 2) Using the BASIC 5.0/5.1 System, HP 9000 Series 200/300 Computers 3) FSD CE Handbook including Model 226/236 Installation Guide & Models 26 and 36 CE Handbook & Model 220 Installation Guide & Installation Notes for various cards 4) Pascal 3.0 User's Guide 5) Installation Reference HP 9000 Series 300 Computers Model 375 & BootROM Configuration Mode User's Manual, HP 9000 Products & Use with Terminals and Monitors, Series 300 Computers 6) BASIC Language Reference Volume 2: O-Z, HP 9000 Series 200/300 These are also "short" manuals in three ring binders. BTW I have some HP-UX manuals but some of them are paperback bound. Can you scan them without damaging them? These should also get into today mail. If I can find more boxs, I'll pack more books. Joe Previous Al, OK I'm packing up a box of HP books for you. I'm including: 1) Using HP BASIC for Instrument Control, a Self-Stufy Course 2) BASIC 5.0/5.1 Graphics Techniques 3) Installing, Using and Maintaining the BASIC 5.0 System 4) Pascal 3.1 User's Guide 5) Installation Guide HP 9000 Series 200 Model 226 and Model 236. 6) BASIC 5.0 Interfacing Techniques, Volume 1: General Topics These are all in the grey HP three ring binders and are all short (roughly 8" x 8 1/2") books. These cover a variety of topics and should make a good start. I specificly included the Installation book (#3) since it contains the information that Tony needs. It's probably the starting point for everything esle but it's actually a very difficult book to find and the reference manuals and such don't cover such basic topics as how to boot the machines or how to create or save the operating system. I'll probably ship this box today via USPS Media mail. I'll also go ahead and start packing some more books. Joe At 05:05 PM 7/24/05 -0700, you wrote: > > I guess you don't have the manuals for this. AFIK I have the full set of >manuals for BASIC 5.1 along with a bunch of other useful related HP manuals >such as the HP 9826/9836 and HP 9000/300 Series Computer Installation >manuals, various peripheral configuration manuals, BASIC 2.1 and 3.0 >manuals, HPL manual, Pascal manuals, Self-Study Guide to Instrument >Interfacing using HP Basic, FSD Customer Engineering Manual and more. This >stuff needs to be made available to the everyone. Al has asked about >borrowing the stuff and scanning it and I've told him that he can but we >haven't done anythng to make it happen yet. But it's about time that we >did. How about it Al? Do you have time to do this stuff yet? > > >--- > > >I'll make time to get it done. I have a couple of other manuals to get >on line (like the other PASCAL manual and the 9836 service manual) > >Was talking to a friend of mine today who makes a little Ubicom board >and I suggested he implement an HPIB interface on it and implement >enough of a emulator to provide an HPIB peripheral to Ethernet interface. >Then, you could have a box on the net simulate the rest. > >

18 years, 11 months

FOX-1 (was A minor Adventure in Vintage Computing )

by wacarder＠earthlink.net

> OMG! > > This is a 24 bit computer that Bob Supnik knows a lot about. It has an > interesting history, started out as something for the military and > Foxboro bought out the production run. Foxboro switched to DEC for their > later products. > > I have the docs on bitsavers > http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/foxboro > > This machine needs to be saved, if that's possible. Al, I'm curious - do you have any idea how many (if any) known specimens of these Foxboro are still around?

18 years, 11 months

HP 98xx manuals

by aek＠bitsavers.org

I guess you don't have the manuals for this. AFIK I have the full set of manuals for BASIC 5.1 along with a bunch of other useful related HP manuals such as the HP 9826/9836 and HP 9000/300 Series Computer Installation manuals, various peripheral configuration manuals, BASIC 2.1 and 3.0 manuals, HPL manual, Pascal manuals, Self-Study Guide to Instrument Interfacing using HP Basic, FSD Customer Engineering Manual and more. This stuff needs to be made available to the everyone. Al has asked about borrowing the stuff and scanning it and I've told him that he can but we haven't done anythng to make it happen yet. But it's about time that we did. How about it Al? Do you have time to do this stuff yet? --- I'll make time to get it done. I have a couple of other manuals to get on line (like the other PASCAL manual and the 9836 service manual) Was talking to a friend of mine today who makes a little Ubicom board and I suggested he implement an HPIB interface on it and implement enough of a emulator to provide an HPIB peripheral to Ethernet interface. Then, you could have a box on the net simulate the rest.

18 years, 11 months

HP 98xx manuals

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Al & et al, OK, Third box! 1) HPL Operating Manual contains HPL Operating Manual and Programming Update for the HP 9826 and 9836 Computers, HP 9000 Series Computers Model 216/226/236 HPL Operating Manual, portions of a HP 3060 manual (the 3060 is a board test system that used a derivative of HPL called BTL (Board Test Language)), HPL Condensed Reference (photocopy) and HPL Operating Manual and Programming Update for the HP 9826 Computer (photocopy). 2) BASIC 3.0 Interfacing Techniques 3) Configuration Reference Manual includes two different Memory Configuration Wheels (maybe you can take them apart and scan everything then people can print it all out and make their own), Infotek Systems AM Series Memory Baord Instation and User's Manual, HP A1401A DIO-I Slot Upgrade Installation Guide, HP 9000 Series 300 Computer Systems Pricing Information (Oct 1988), HP 9000 Series 300 Models 310 and 320 Hardware Technical Data (Sept 1986), HP 9000 Series 300 Computers Configuration Reference Manual and several Installation Notes for HP memory cards. 4) Service Manual includes HP 98270F Powerfail Option Installation for the HP 9826 and 9836 Computers, HP 9000 Series 200 Computers Model 226/236 Service Manual. 5) BASIC Utilities Library for the HP Series 200 Computers includes some interesting Installation Notes and Programming Notes in the back including one on setting up the BASIC ROM card, also a brochure on the HP Series 200 Software available from HP. These are all in full size (8 1/2" x 11") three ring HP binders. Had enough yet Al? Or should I keep going? :-) Joe Previous I found another handy sized box so I packed up some more books. This lot includes: 1) Peripheral Installation Guide, HP 9000 Series 200/300 Computers & 35731 HP Monochrome Monitor Installation Guide 2) Using the BASIC 5.0/5.1 System, HP 9000 Series 200/300 Computers 3) FSD CE Handbook including Model 226/236 Installation Guide & Models 26 and 36 CE Handbook & Model 220 Installation Guide & Installation Notes for various cards 4) Pascal 3.0 User's Guide 5) Installation Reference HP 9000 Series 300 Computers Model 375 & BootROM Configuration Mode User's Manual, HP 9000 Products & Use with Terminals and Monitors, Series 300 Computers 6) BASIC Language Reference Volume 2: O-Z, HP 9000 Series 200/300 These are also "short" manuals in three ring binders. BTW I have some HP-UX manuals but some of them are paperback bound. Can you scan them without damaging them? These should also get into today mail. If I can find more boxs, I'll pack more books. Joe Previous Al, OK I'm packing up a box of HP books for you. I'm including: 1) Using HP BASIC for Instrument Control, a Self-Stufy Course 2) BASIC 5.0/5.1 Graphics Techniques 3) Installing, Using and Maintaining the BASIC 5.0 System 4) Pascal 3.1 User's Guide 5) Installation Guide HP 9000 Series 200 Model 226 and Model 236. 6) BASIC 5.0 Interfacing Techniques, Volume 1: General Topics These are all in the grey HP three ring binders and are all short (roughly 8" x 8 1/2") books. These cover a variety of topics and should make a good start. I specificly included the Installation book (#3) since it contains the information that Tony needs. It's probably the starting point for everything esle but it's actually a very difficult book to find and the reference manuals and such don't cover such basic topics as how to boot the machines or how to create or save the operating system. I'll probably ship this box today via USPS Media mail. I'll also go ahead and start packing some more books. Joe At 05:05 PM 7/24/05 -0700, you wrote: > > I guess you don't have the manuals for this. AFIK I have the full set of >manuals for BASIC 5.1 along with a bunch of other useful related HP manuals >such as the HP 9826/9836 and HP 9000/300 Series Computer Installation >manuals, various peripheral configuration manuals, BASIC 2.1 and 3.0 >manuals, HPL manual, Pascal manuals, Self-Study Guide to Instrument >Interfacing using HP Basic, FSD Customer Engineering Manual and more. This >stuff needs to be made available to the everyone. Al has asked about >borrowing the stuff and scanning it and I've told him that he can but we >haven't done anythng to make it happen yet. But it's about time that we >did. How about it Al? Do you have time to do this stuff yet? > > >--- > > >I'll make time to get it done. I have a couple of other manuals to get >on line (like the other PASCAL manual and the 9836 service manual) > >Was talking to a friend of mine today who makes a little Ubicom board >and I suggested he implement an HPIB interface on it and implement >enough of a emulator to provide an HPIB peripheral to Ethernet interface. >Then, you could have a box on the net simulate the rest. > >

18 years, 11 months

HP 98xx manuals

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Al & et al, I found another handy sized box so I packed up some more books. This lot includes: 1) Peripheral Installation Guide, HP 9000 Series 200/300 Computers & 35731 HP Monochrome Monitor Installation Guide 2) Using the BASIC 5.0/5.1 System, HP 9000 Series 200/300 Computers 3) FSD CE Handbook including Model 226/236 Installation Guide & Models 26 and 36 CE Handbook & Model 220 Installation Guide & Installation Notes for various cards 4) Pascal 3.0 User's Guide 5) Installation Reference HP 9000 Series 300 Computers Model 375 & BootROM Configuration Mode User's Manual, HP 9000 Products & Use with Terminals and Monitors, Series 300 Computers 6) BASIC Language Reference Volume 2: O-Z, HP 9000 Series 200/300 These are also "short" manuals in three ring binders. BTW I have some HP-UX manuals but some of them are paperback bound. Can you scan them without damaging them? These should also get into today mail. If I can find more boxs, I'll pack more books. Joe Previous Al, OK I'm packing up a box of HP books for you. I'm including: 1) Using HP BASIC for Instrument Control, a Self-Stufy Course 2) BASIC 5.0/5.1 Graphics Techniques 3) Installing, Using and Maintaining the BASIC 5.0 System 4) Pascal 3.1 User's Guide 5) Installation Guide HP 9000 Series 200 Model 226 and Model 236. 6) BASIC 5.0 Interfacing Techniques, Volume 1: General Topics These are all in the grey HP three ring binders and are all short (roughly 8" x 8 1/2") books. These cover a variety of topics and should make a good start. I specificly included the Installation book (#3) since it contains the information that Tony needs. It's probably the starting point for everything esle but it's actually a very difficult book to find and the reference manuals and such don't cover such basic topics as how to boot the machines or how to create or save the operating system. I'll probably ship this box today via USPS Media mail. I'll also go ahead and start packing some more books. Joe At 05:05 PM 7/24/05 -0700, you wrote: > > I guess you don't have the manuals for this. AFIK I have the full set of >manuals for BASIC 5.1 along with a bunch of other useful related HP manuals >such as the HP 9826/9836 and HP 9000/300 Series Computer Installation >manuals, various peripheral configuration manuals, BASIC 2.1 and 3.0 >manuals, HPL manual, Pascal manuals, Self-Study Guide to Instrument >Interfacing using HP Basic, FSD Customer Engineering Manual and more. This >stuff needs to be made available to the everyone. Al has asked about >borrowing the stuff and scanning it and I've told him that he can but we >haven't done anythng to make it happen yet. But it's about time that we >did. How about it Al? Do you have time to do this stuff yet? > > >--- > > >I'll make time to get it done. I have a couple of other manuals to get >on line (like the other PASCAL manual and the 9836 service manual) > >Was talking to a friend of mine today who makes a little Ubicom board >and I suggested he implement an HPIB interface on it and implement >enough of a emulator to provide an HPIB peripheral to Ethernet interface. >Then, you could have a box on the net simulate the rest. > >

18 years, 11 months

disk versus disc

by Watzman＠neo.rr.com

Re: Curiousity for the day - is there any difference between the use of disk and disc when describing floppy drives, hard drives etc.? I just wondered if one is technically right and the other wrong when it comes to computing... ***** The answer is that there is a technically right and wrong usage and difference between disk and disc. DISK, with a "K", is technically correct for magnetic media (e.g. floppy disk) DISC, with a "C", is technically correct for optical media (e.g. Laser disc, CD-ROM and DVD discs)

18 years, 11 months

Blue Panel PDP-11/35 pictures

by wacarder＠earthlink.net

> I've posted some pictures of the blue panel 11/35 and > a PDP-8a that I recently acquired and got up and running. > > The pictures are at: > > http://www.woffordwitch.com/PDPCollection.asp > > Click on the Blue Panel PDP-11/35 link. After contemplating swapping out the blue front panel for a standard 11/35 front panel, I have decided to leave this one as is, since I've never seen another blue front panel 11/35 running. I have only heard of one other one like this, so I will keep this one as-is, since it seems to be somewhat unusual and a conversation piece, and.... IT WORKS! Ashley

18 years, 11 months

The Pioneer Anomaly (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here's a response I received today from the Pioneer Anomaly team, the folks who have the data tapes from the Pioneer missions that were at risk of being lost: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:08:24 -0700 From: Bruce Betts <tpsbb at planetary.org> To: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf at siconic.com> Subject: re: The Pioneer Anomaly Hi, Thanks to preliminary contributions from members, the Pioneer Anomaly team have been able to confirm that data can be retrieved successfully from the old data tapes using the existing machine at JPL. We greatly appreciate your offer, but don't think it will be necessary as the tests have been successful so far. We will keep you in mind however and I will pass your information along to the team. We have also established a two phase plan with the team. Phase 1 is underway now: data recovery and validation, which will take several months of tedious work. Phase 2 will be a period of intensive data analysis to carefully search for the source of the anomaly. Thank you for your interest. FYI, more information on the Pioneer Anomaly and things related to our Pioneer Anomaly special appeal can be found at: http://planetary.org/news/2005/pioneer_anomaly_faq.html Bruce Betts Bruce Betts, Ph.D. Director of Projects The Planetary Society, Ph:626-793-5100 The Planetary Society is the largest space interest group on Earth. The Society is non-profit and non-governmental. See http://planetary.org for more information. --- -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

18 years, 11 months

hardware debugging - history repeats itself

by jack.rubin＠ameritech.net

Just wanted to share a success story - During the last Chicago heat wave, our air conditioning stopped working. Nothing, furnace (we have those up north) fan worked fine and air was circulating, but no cooling at all. No response from the compressor. Supply and control voltages all checked out ok, thermostat worked, etc. Turned out to be an earwig (small insect) trapped in the contacts of the compressor controller. Removed said insect, cleaned up the contact points and we were cool. Shades of Grace Hopper and the Mark II moth! Jack

18 years, 11 months

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