test-drb July 2005

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"Response" from seller with the "Apple-1"

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here's the response I got from the seller who listed that plywood box with keyboard mounted to it: "I am so sorry for the late response. I did not even know about this ebay messages, I have 53 messages now to go through. I thought they all went to my email account. But I guess only some do. Again, I was not trying to dodge your question. I have missed many about 90%. I was not aware of this change in yahoo email." That's his "answer", which I really appreciate because, you know, I would really be bothered if the guy tried to dodge my question. Of course, this doesn't explain how he somehow didn't miss the 5 questions he did respond to which are displayed on the auction page (see for yourself: item #5213140640). BTW, I received this same exact message twice in response to the two inquiries I submitted to him, so I'm sure the other 53 questions got "answered" in a similar fashion. Another fine example of why I can't stand eBay. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

19 years, 5 months

PDP-11/34 Programmer's Panel, Bubble Memory, DEC Rack Panel on E-bay

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

<http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZrigdonj> Joe

19 years, 5 months

WOW!!!! $15k DEC PDP-8 CLASSIC MINICOMPUTER SYSTEM DIGITAL PDP8

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Wow! Somebody really wanted that one! <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5213265141&rd=1&sspagena me=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1? Joe

19 years, 5 months

Decitek Reader and Remix punch

by aek＠bitsavers.org

Everything that I had scanned from Decitek and Remex is up now at http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/decitek http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/remex

19 years, 5 months

HP 98xx manuals (5th box)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I had to stop for a while to take care of business but now I'm back with more books. Box #5 is now packed and ready to go. It contains more full size books in three ring binders. 1) BASIC 3.0 Programming Techniques includes same plus BASIC 3.0 Documentaion Guide and Master Index 2) Pascal 3.0 Graphics Techniques 3) Pascal 3.0 Procedure Library 4) "Customer Support Training" includes 9816 CE Hnadbook (this need to go into the CE Handbook binder), Series 200 Model 16 Self-Paced Learning Guide, HP 9816 Computer Service Manual, HP Series 200 Computers System Tests for the HP Series 200 Computers. Joe OK Box #4. 1) Pascal 3.0 Workstation System 2) HP pascal Language Reference including same & Pascal 3.1 Documentaion Guide and Master Index 3) HP 9000 Series 200 Computers BASIC 3.0 Graphics Techniques. 4) "HP-IB" includes Tutorial Description of the Hewlett-Packard Interface Bus, Programming Note Introducory Operating Guide for the HP 1980A/B Oscilloscope Measurement System With the HP 9825 Desktop Computer, Product Note 1980A/B-44 An Introduction to Automatic Measurements with the 1980A/B's Trigger Flag, Programming Note Introductory Operating Guide for the HP 1980A/B Oscilloscope Measurement System With the HP 85 Personal Computer, Programming Note Introductory Operating Guide for the HP 1980A/B Oscilloscope Measurement System With the HP 9835 or 9845 Desktop Computer, & various program listings. 5) "HP 9800 Series 200 Cards" includes HP Series 200 Computer Pricing Information (Apr 1983), HP 82912A/HP 82913A Video Monitor Instruction Sheet, HP 98625A Disk Interface Installation, HP 98640A 7-Channel Analog Input Module Hardware Installation and Reference Manual. I pulled three manuals out of this book since another copy is already included in the previous box. 6) HP Computer Systems - Student 9826/36 BASIC Language Operating & Programming Course (with solutions). 7) Shared Resource Management HP Series 200 Workstation Manual includes two copies of same plus HP 9000 Series 200 Computers Loader Utility manual. Once again these are all full size manuals in three ring HP binders. Joe Ok that box wasn't quite full so I'm adding these loose manuals: 6) HP Series 200 Computers 9888A Bus Expander Installation and Service. 7) HP 98644A Asynchronous Serial interface Refeence Manual. 8) HP 98620 Direct Memroy Access Controller Installation Note. 9) HP 98625B HP-IB High Speed Disc Interface Hardware Reference Manual 10) HP 98622A GPIO Interface Installation. 11) HP 82906A Printer Owner's manual. 12) HP 98626A RS-232 Interface Installation. Joe Al & et al, OK, Third box! 1) HPL Operating Manual contains HPL Operating Manual and Programming Update for the HP 9826 and 9836 Computers, HP 9000 Series Computers Model 216/226/236 HPL Operating Manual, portions of a HP 3060 manual (the 3060 is a board test system that used a derivative of HPL called BTL (Board Test Language)), HPL Condensed Reference (photocopy) and HPL Operating Manual and Programming Update for the HP 9826 Computer (photocopy). 2) BASIC 3.0 Interfacing Techniques 3) Configuration Reference Manual includes two different Memory Configuration Wheels (maybe you can take them apart and scan everything then people can print it all out and make their own), Infotek Systems AM Series Memory Baord Instation and User's Manual, HP A1401A DIO-I Slot Upgrade Installation Guide, HP 9000 Series 300 Computer Systems Pricing Information (Oct 1988), HP 9000 Series 300 Models 310 and 320 Hardware Technical Data (Sept 1986), HP 9000 Series 300 Computers Configuration Reference Manual and several Installation Notes for HP memory cards. 4) Service Manual includes HP 98270F Powerfail Option Installation for the HP 9826 and 9836 Computers, HP 9000 Series 200 Computers Model 226/236 Service Manual. 5) BASIC Utilities Library for the HP Series 200 Computers includes some interesting Installation Notes and Programming Notes in the back including one on setting up the BASIC ROM card, also a brochure on the HP Series 200 Software available from HP. These are all in full size (8 1/2" x 11") three ring HP binders. Had enough yet Al? Or should I keep going? :-) Joe Previous I found another handy sized box so I packed up some more books. This lot includes: 1) Peripheral Installation Guide, HP 9000 Series 200/300 Computers & 35731 HP Monochrome Monitor Installation Guide 2) Using the BASIC 5.0/5.1 System, HP 9000 Series 200/300 Computers 3) FSD CE Handbook including Model 226/236 Installation Guide & Models 26 and 36 CE Handbook & Model 220 Installation Guide & Installation Notes for various cards 4) Pascal 3.0 User's Guide 5) Installation Reference HP 9000 Series 300 Computers Model 375 & BootROM Configuration Mode User's Manual, HP 9000 Products & Use with Terminals and Monitors, Series 300 Computers 6) BASIC Language Reference Volume 2: O-Z, HP 9000 Series 200/300 These are also "short" manuals in three ring binders. BTW I have some HP-UX manuals but some of them are paperback bound. Can you scan them without damaging them? These should also get into today mail. If I can find more boxs, I'll pack more books. Joe Previous Al, OK I'm packing up a box of HP books for you. I'm including: 1) Using HP BASIC for Instrument Control, a Self-Stufy Course 2) BASIC 5.0/5.1 Graphics Techniques 3) Installing, Using and Maintaining the BASIC 5.0 System 4) Pascal 3.1 User's Guide 5) Installation Guide HP 9000 Series 200 Model 226 and Model 236. 6) BASIC 5.0 Interfacing Techniques, Volume 1: General Topics These are all in the grey HP three ring binders and are all short (roughly 8" x 8 1/2") books. These cover a variety of topics and should make a good start. I specificly included the Installation book (#3) since it contains the information that Tony needs. It's probably the starting point for everything esle but it's actually a very difficult book to find and the reference manuals and such don't cover such basic topics as how to boot the machines or how to create or save the operating system. I'll probably ship this box today via USPS Media mail. I'll also go ahead and start packing some more books. Joe At 05:05 PM 7/24/05 -0700, you wrote: > > I guess you don't have the manuals for this. AFIK I have the full set of >manuals for BASIC 5.1 along with a bunch of other useful related HP manuals >such as the HP 9826/9836 and HP 9000/300 Series Computer Installation >manuals, various peripheral configuration manuals, BASIC 2.1 and 3.0 >manuals, HPL manual, Pascal manuals, Self-Study Guide to Instrument >Interfacing using HP Basic, FSD Customer Engineering Manual and more. This >stuff needs to be made available to the everyone. Al has asked about >borrowing the stuff and scanning it and I've told him that he can but we >haven't done anythng to make it happen yet. But it's about time that we >did. How about it Al? Do you have time to do this stuff yet? > > >--- > > >I'll make time to get it done. I have a couple of other manuals to get >on line (like the other PASCAL manual and the 9836 service manual) > >Was talking to a friend of mine today who makes a little Ubicom board >and I suggested he implement an HPIB interface on it and implement >enough of a emulator to provide an HPIB peripheral to Ethernet interface. >Then, you could have a box on the net simulate the rest. > >

19 years, 5 months

IBM AT Drive Types

by richard.beaudry＠gmail.com

Hello all, Believe it or not, I couldn't find this on google, so I humbly submit it here.... Does anyone have a list of the built-in drive types from the original IBM AT? I'd like the drive number, heads, cyls, and capacity if you have the list. The setup program on the diagnostics disk only lets you pick a type, but it does not tell you what the choices are... Of course, I know that later computers came along with BIOSes that let you see the drive types instead of picking one out of thin air, but I don't know if these followed the AT choices... Thanks! Rich B.

19 years, 5 months

Latest round of Pioneer Planetary Society data analysis stuff on slashdot

by aek＠bitsavers.org

Since Sellam just talked to someone about this.. Here is the only useful bit of information in the discussion: --- I talked to the guy who used to run Pioneer... ...and the situation is as follows: * The data used to be stored on magnetic tape. When the tape started deteriorating, all the data was archived off onto then state-of-the-art MO disks. * The machine used was a MicroVAX with a DEC RWZ21 SCSI MO drive, which is apparently quite rare. The disks are 128MB each. * For Pioneer 10, there are 155 disks, making 19840 MB of data. * For Pioneer 11, there are 217 disks, making 27776 MB of data. * Each disk takes about 10 minutes to read to the MicroVAX, and then more time to move across onto a real computer, of course. I would have happily volunteered to spend a couple of days swapping disks in order to salvage all this lot, but alas, I'm the wrong side of the Atlantic. The guy in charge has recently been made redundant, and he was desperate to find someone to hand off all this to... but there's incredible beaurocracy. (I gather all the data was actually supposed to have been destroyed some years ago, but through some 'oversight' hadn't been.) Alas, I don't have permission to publish his address, but I'll put him in touch with the Planetary Society on the off chance he doesn't know about this. Interestingly, for years he ran the Pioneer spacecraft off a Mac Quadra 950! Check out the screen shots [nasa.gov]...

19 years, 5 months

Decitek Reader and Remix punch

by wacarder＠earthlink.net

Today I obtained a Genrad 1797 programming station. It consists of a PDP-8a, 3 RK05s, a Decitek paper tape reader, a Remix paper tape punch, and a Genrad interface unit. Also with the system is a DecWriter III and 3 RK05 16 sector packs, as well as an alignment pack. I have not begun to study the system yet. Quick questions: 1) The Decitek reader appears to have a serial (EIA / RS232) interface. Can someone point me to some documentaion on how this might be interfaced to a PDP-11? 2) Same question as #1, but for the Remix paper tape punch 3) What were these GenRad programming stations used for? 4) What is the purpose of the GenRad 1795-3010 interface unit? BTW, the system looks to be in good condition and was said to be running before it was decomssioned just a few months ago. Once I get a 30A 4-prong receptacle installed for it, I'll fire it up and see what it's all about. There is a boot pack for it. Any help or pointers on where to find information on the Decitek reader, Remix punch, and GenRad equipment in general would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ashley

19 years, 5 months

HP 98xx manuals (4th box)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

OK Box #4. 1) Pascal 3.0 Workstation System 2) HP pascal Language Reference including same & Pascal 3.1 Documentaion Guide and Master Index 3) HP 9000 Series 200 Computers BASIC 3.0 Graphics Techniques. 4) "HP-IB" includes Tutorial Description of the Hewlett-Packard Interface Bus, Programming Note Introducory Operating Guide for the HP 1980A/B Oscilloscope Measurement System With the HP 9825 Desktop Computer, Product Note 1980A/B-44 An Introduction to Automatic Measurements with the 1980A/B's Trigger Flag, Programming Note Introductory Operating Guide for the HP 1980A/B Oscilloscope Measurement System With the HP 85 Personal Computer, Programming Note Introductory Operating Guide for the HP 1980A/B Oscilloscope Measurement System With the HP 9835 or 9845 Desktop Computer, & various program listings. 5) "HP 9800 Series 200 Cards" includes HP Series 200 Computer Pricing Information (Apr 1983), HP 82912A/HP 82913A Video Monitor Instruction Sheet, HP 98625A Disk Interface Installation, HP 98640A 7-Channel Analog Input Module Hardware Installation and Reference Manual. I pulled three manuals out of this book since another copy is already included in the previous box. 6) HP Computer Systems - Student 9826/36 BASIC Language Operating & Programming Course (with solutions). 7) Shared Resource Management HP Series 200 Workstation Manual includes two copies of same plus HP 9000 Series 200 Computers Loader Utility manual. Once again these are all full size manuals in three ring HP binders. Joe Ok that box wasn't quite full so I'm adding these loose manuals: 6) HP Series 200 Computers 9888A Bus Expander Installation and Service. 7) HP 98644A Asynchronous Serial interface Refeence Manual. 8) HP 98620 Direct Memroy Access Controller Installation Note. 9) HP 98625B HP-IB High Speed Disc Interface Hardware Reference Manual 10) HP 98622A GPIO Interface Installation. 11) HP 82906A Printer Owner's manual. 12) HP 98626A RS-232 Interface Installation. Joe Al & et al, OK, Third box! 1) HPL Operating Manual contains HPL Operating Manual and Programming Update for the HP 9826 and 9836 Computers, HP 9000 Series Computers Model 216/226/236 HPL Operating Manual, portions of a HP 3060 manual (the 3060 is a board test system that used a derivative of HPL called BTL (Board Test Language)), HPL Condensed Reference (photocopy) and HPL Operating Manual and Programming Update for the HP 9826 Computer (photocopy). 2) BASIC 3.0 Interfacing Techniques 3) Configuration Reference Manual includes two different Memory Configuration Wheels (maybe you can take them apart and scan everything then people can print it all out and make their own), Infotek Systems AM Series Memory Baord Instation and User's Manual, HP A1401A DIO-I Slot Upgrade Installation Guide, HP 9000 Series 300 Computer Systems Pricing Information (Oct 1988), HP 9000 Series 300 Models 310 and 320 Hardware Technical Data (Sept 1986), HP 9000 Series 300 Computers Configuration Reference Manual and several Installation Notes for HP memory cards. 4) Service Manual includes HP 98270F Powerfail Option Installation for the HP 9826 and 9836 Computers, HP 9000 Series 200 Computers Model 226/236 Service Manual. 5) BASIC Utilities Library for the HP Series 200 Computers includes some interesting Installation Notes and Programming Notes in the back including one on setting up the BASIC ROM card, also a brochure on the HP Series 200 Software available from HP. These are all in full size (8 1/2" x 11") three ring HP binders. Had enough yet Al? Or should I keep going? :-) Joe Previous I found another handy sized box so I packed up some more books. This lot includes: 1) Peripheral Installation Guide, HP 9000 Series 200/300 Computers & 35731 HP Monochrome Monitor Installation Guide 2) Using the BASIC 5.0/5.1 System, HP 9000 Series 200/300 Computers 3) FSD CE Handbook including Model 226/236 Installation Guide & Models 26 and 36 CE Handbook & Model 220 Installation Guide & Installation Notes for various cards 4) Pascal 3.0 User's Guide 5) Installation Reference HP 9000 Series 300 Computers Model 375 & BootROM Configuration Mode User's Manual, HP 9000 Products & Use with Terminals and Monitors, Series 300 Computers 6) BASIC Language Reference Volume 2: O-Z, HP 9000 Series 200/300 These are also "short" manuals in three ring binders. BTW I have some HP-UX manuals but some of them are paperback bound. Can you scan them without damaging them? These should also get into today mail. If I can find more boxs, I'll pack more books. Joe Previous Al, OK I'm packing up a box of HP books for you. I'm including: 1) Using HP BASIC for Instrument Control, a Self-Stufy Course 2) BASIC 5.0/5.1 Graphics Techniques 3) Installing, Using and Maintaining the BASIC 5.0 System 4) Pascal 3.1 User's Guide 5) Installation Guide HP 9000 Series 200 Model 226 and Model 236. 6) BASIC 5.0 Interfacing Techniques, Volume 1: General Topics These are all in the grey HP three ring binders and are all short (roughly 8" x 8 1/2") books. These cover a variety of topics and should make a good start. I specificly included the Installation book (#3) since it contains the information that Tony needs. It's probably the starting point for everything esle but it's actually a very difficult book to find and the reference manuals and such don't cover such basic topics as how to boot the machines or how to create or save the operating system. I'll probably ship this box today via USPS Media mail. I'll also go ahead and start packing some more books. Joe At 05:05 PM 7/24/05 -0700, you wrote: > > I guess you don't have the manuals for this. AFIK I have the full set of >manuals for BASIC 5.1 along with a bunch of other useful related HP manuals >such as the HP 9826/9836 and HP 9000/300 Series Computer Installation >manuals, various peripheral configuration manuals, BASIC 2.1 and 3.0 >manuals, HPL manual, Pascal manuals, Self-Study Guide to Instrument >Interfacing using HP Basic, FSD Customer Engineering Manual and more. This >stuff needs to be made available to the everyone. Al has asked about >borrowing the stuff and scanning it and I've told him that he can but we >haven't done anythng to make it happen yet. But it's about time that we >did. How about it Al? Do you have time to do this stuff yet? > > >--- > > >I'll make time to get it done. I have a couple of other manuals to get >on line (like the other PASCAL manual and the 9836 service manual) > >Was talking to a friend of mine today who makes a little Ubicom board >and I suggested he implement an HPIB interface on it and implement >enough of a emulator to provide an HPIB peripheral to Ethernet interface. >Then, you could have a box on the net simulate the rest. > >

19 years, 5 months

HP 98xx manuals

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Had enough yet Al? Or should I keep going? :-) May as well keep going. I don't have a job right now, so I can work on this full-time for a few months.

19 years, 5 months

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