test-drb June 2005

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by KParker＠workcover.com

A good friend of mine, Jason, has been stripping DEC's in San Francisco - he has the following stuff left for anyone who is interested - here is his message below . Please contact thorpej<put_the_at_thing_here>shagadelic.org ++++++++++++++++++++ Free DEC parts available for pick-up in San Francisco. This stuff is small, so I will also ship it if you are willing to pay packing and shipping costs. No international shipping, please. Will also consider delivery to locations in the South Bay or Peninsula (I work in Cupertino). I need to get this stuff out of my attic, and will send it to a raw materials recycler if no one wants it. - LK201 keyboard - LK201-AA keyboard - LK401-AA keyboard - PMAZC-AA TURBOchannel dual-scsi => This is quite a score! It would be nice for a DECstation owner to snag it and verify that it works with NetBSD/pmax! - PMAG-B TURBOchannel frame buffer - DEFTA-FA TURBOchannel FDDI interface ++++++++++ Kevin Parker Web Services Consultant WorkCover Corporation p: 08 8233 2548 m: 0418 806 166 e: kparker at workcover.com w: www.workcover.com ++++++++++ ************************************************************************ This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee only. It may contain information that is protected by legislated confidentiality and/or is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are prohibited from disseminating, distributing or copying this e-mail. Any opinion expressed in this e-mail may not necessarily be that of the WorkCover Corporation of South Australia. Although precautions have been taken, the sender cannot warrant that this e-mail or any files transmitted with it are free of viruses or any other defect. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and destroy the original e-mail and any copies. ************************************************************************

19 years, 6 months

(OT) Re: Rescue of data from Pioneer 10 & 11 tapes at JPL needed

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 12:00 -0500 6/8/05, Bill Dawson wrote (quoted from a website): >"With the spacecraft now silent, we cannot expect future data, >so we must look to the past. In fact, there are hundreds of >tapes containing data taken before 1987, when the spacecraft >were between 10 and 40 AU from the Sun. This data from the time >the Pioneers were still in the midst of this planetary realm >could be crucial to solving the anomaly. We can expect future data. The New Horizons mission should launch in January 2006 and zip by pluto in July 2015 if all goes well. Of course, it's not a JPL mission, but the data should be equally relevant. Nevertheless, considering the cost/bit of the Pioneer data, if there is any chance of recovering it, serious effort should be made to do so. FWIW, a paper describing the anomalous acceleration is at PHYSICAL REVIEW D, VOLUME 65, 082004 Study of the anomalous acceleration of Pioneer 10 and 11 John D. Anderson,1,* Philip A. Laing,2,? Eunice L. Lau,1,? Anthony S. Liu,3,? Michael Martin Nieto,4,i and Slava G. Turyshev1,? 1Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, California 91109 and I have a .pdf copy of that paper, if anyone is interested (unless, of course, anyone from Physical Review D asks me not to pass it on). -- - Mark 210-522-6025, temporary cell 240-375-2995

19 years, 6 months

looking for a Sun 4/260 PROM image

by fredette＠theory.csail.mit.edu

Hi. I'm looking for a PROM image for a Sun 4/260. If you can help, please email me directly, since I don't subscribe to the list. Thanks, -- Matt Fredette

19 years, 6 months

Stuff I grabbed... (Update)

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

Hi all, just to give the current state of affairs: I decided to go after those cables I had missed anyway, and made a couple phone calls and mails to the people responsible for recycling. Indicating that "there has been a mistake at the computing center" brought me in contact with the internal recycling department, where I got an appointment for yesterday morning to come sort through the stuff, which was still there. To get it short: I went, and finally got two HP PSI -> X.21 cables, 5 m each. Issue solved. Now to learn something about X.21, and/or communications standards in general... Any good sources Google won't turn up likely? Additionally, I got four original HP standard serial cables (SubD-9f - SubD25-m) and an Exabyte streamer in an external SCSI enclosure, which even still had a cartridge inside. Even more to learn about... Yours sincerely, -- Arno Kletzander Stud. Hilfskraft Informatik Sammlung Erlangen www.iser.uni-erlangen.de Geschenkt: 3 Monate GMX ProMail gratis + 3 Ausgaben stern gratis ++ Jetzt anmelden & testen ++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail ++

19 years, 6 months

[SPAM] - Re: Simulated disk drive for RT-11? - Sending mail serverfound on relays.ordb.org

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: [SPAM] - Re: Simulated disk drive for RT-11? - Sending mail serverfound on relays.ordb.org > From: "Jerome H. Fine" <jhfinexgs2 at compsys.to> > Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 22:05:18 -0400 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > > >Allison wrote: > >>>Jerome Fine replies: >>>That would explain the situation since no one else seems >>>to have ever seen a pure Q22 backplane for a BA23. >>> >>It's possible, I've done it and it fits well. The Q22 >>18slot (M9275) is a nice backplane for non-PMI based >>systems. >> >Jerome Fine replies: > >If you want to add one more backplane to your >list, I used a 2 * 22 slot Qbus Q22 bit backplane >when I did some Y2K bug fixes for some application >programs. Specifically, this was a 22 slot backplane >with ONLY dual slots, obviously all AB. The last slot >had extra room to allow for a board of about 2" that >held a small SCSI hard drive of about 100 MBytes. >The 3rd last slot (and the 2nd last which it overlapped) >help a 3 1/2" floppy or an RX23. There was a CQD 220/TM >with special ROMs which supported the RX23 as a standard >device with removable media. By the way, the power >supply was not part of the box holding the backplane - >they (power supply and backplane) were connected by a >short 3 foot cable. I think that the ONLY DEC board >was the M8192-YB CPU. I've seen one of them, third party nonDEC. The 12 slot is fine as a 11/23 board set and a meg of ram with RQDX3 it can hold everything needed except power. >As for one more backplane, I presume that you have the >4 * 4 slot (4 quad slots) for the VT103 which were sold >with 18 bits, but could be upgraded in the field to 22 >bits. At one point, I heard that someone made the first >2 slots AB / CD and installed a uVAX-II. That was beyond >my ability, I only used an M8190-BB and a 4 MByte memory >board with a CDQ 220/TM and a DHQ11. I have two. One modded for Q22 and the other Q22/ 2slotsCD. That was a had discussed internally at DEC. There were a few made. >Those days fooling with the hardware were fun, but now >that there are emulators that can run about 100 times >the speed of a PDP-11/73, for an RT-11 software addict >like myself, the hardware has become much less important. Doesn't work for me. Sims are useful but the fastest PC I have is a 1g celeron. They aren't that fast and often a lot less reliable as the OS supporting them can be cranky. I still have two xerox paper boxes full of Qbus cards, hardware is easy. Allison

19 years, 6 months

Compaq DOS 3.31

by Alwrcker82＠wmconnect.com

Hi if you 5.25 or 3.5's try this man, Computer News 80 PO Box 50127 Casper, Wyoming 82605-0127 (compnews at trib.com) he should have some. Al DePermentier

19 years, 6 months

Infocom on PDP-11

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Ah yes, good memories! At the Technical High School in Heerlen (very southern part of Holland) our computer class program tasks were written in BEATHE. I can't remember what the B and E stand for, but the "ATHE" stand for Algol(60) Technical High school Eindhoven. The school in Heerlen used at that time (1975 era) IBM 027's (?) to enter the program on punch *card*. We always had a fight for the few desks that had a punch that also *printed* the line of Algol on the top of the punch card. You learned to want to enter your work on such a desk after your deck of cards had once slipped out of your hands and fell on the ground ... You turned in the deck of cards, and one or two days later you got the print out on green bar paper. In the beginning your program hadn't even run because the compiler found a missing ";" Get the correct card, remove it from the deck and put in the corrected one. Submit the deck again, and before you knew a week had passed. Turning in the deck more than 5 times would seldom produce a good score, so I guess I learned at that time to be precise. - Henk, PA8PDP. >>>>> "woodelf" == woodelf <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> writes: woodelf> But remember too you really had only two sized variables, woodelf> ints and floating point. I think the big problem with algol woodelf> you never were ment to compile it, just write programns in woodelf> it. > Nonsense. It certainly wasn't designed as a paper language, and it > wasn't used as a paper language. The first compiler (MC Amsterdam, by > Dijkstra) was a real compiler, and at the T.U. Eindhove the "THE" > operating system used Algol exclusively, so all the programming for > many years at that major university was done in Algol 60. > > paul

19 years, 6 months

Seeking BBC Domesday system

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 11:21 -0500 6/8/05, bv wrote: >With the "security" they have implemented in the US these days, I would >strongly advise against taking any unique device on a flight there. >There are too many stories of devices being tampered with, dismantled >and ruined by trained monkeys. For all of our critical space-flight hardware (power supplies, plasma instruments, etc.), we put them in well-padded containers and carry them onboard. We draft letters to airport security (and carry duplicates thereof) quoting the NASA contract number and giving contact phone numbers at the SwRI office. In many cases, neither X-rays nor opening the contamination bag is a good idea. With the appropriate groundwork, we have not had any problems (knock on wood) so far. So it is *possible* to carry electronics on planes, under some circumstances. The clever instrument teams make sure their containers don't fit in coach seats, so they have no choice but to go First Class. :-) -- - Mark 210-522-6025, temporary cell 240-375-2995

19 years, 6 months

Catering VCF-MW (was: Apple Goes Intel...

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Ah... no. You don't want her cookin'... believe me. ;^> >I'm the cook of the family; altho I have no formal training. I am, however, >waiting for my midlife crisis which I feel is coming on very soon, when I >quit computers altogether (well, the Wintel crap anyway) and go to culinary >school... ;-) Ahh... I have been pondering the exact same scenario for a few months now. I've grown to hate computers, and prefer to be cooking, and have been considering quitting and finding a new career (although I don't think I could cook for a living... I think I enjoy it because its an escape activity.... I think I'd rather return to what I went to school for and try to get back into theater or television... maybe start doing voice overs professionally or something). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

19 years, 6 months

Compaq DOS 3.31

by dieymir＠yahoo.es

>> I'm looking for a copy of Compaq DOS 3.31 rev. G >> (circa 1990) Anybody has this at hand ?? > Just curious: Why do you need this specific revision? Because I think it's the latest one, and probably they fixed lot of errors :-) ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, m?s seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es

19 years, 6 months

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test-drb June 2005