test-drb June 2005

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Slightly (ok, maybe more than slightly) OT: Old Yellow Book CDs

by ISC277＠CLCILLINOIS.EDU

Mailing lists were available in all sorts of machine-readable formats >from the 1960s-on, most commonly on 7 or 9 track reel tapes. Many other types of public records were also available, but it's just not a commonly known thing these days. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Hotze Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:52 AM To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Slightly (ok, maybe more than slightly) OT: Old Yellow Book CDs Hi, My name's Tim Hotze, some really long term members with archives that go way back may find that I used to be semi-active here years ago. Now I'm working with a cultural policy group at the University of Chicago, and I'm part of a project that is using (amongst other sources) Yellow Book data. Whic his great for this year. And even great for last yeah, when we have data. Its not great for 1996, or 1992, or any other year - we can't find electronic data from previous years; websites are updated continually. Libraries that I've searched have this years, maybe last years, but don't keep any older data available. So here's where I think you guys may be able to help.... as I recall >from my days of hunting garage sales, there's a lot of chaff with the wheat. I also remember there being published Yellow Book or business listing CDs in the 1990's - especially before the dot-com era. I wanted to know if anybody can remember these, if anybody has seen them around lying with 486s that you don't want to find when you're really looking for an IMSAI or Apple II, and, while I'm at it, if maybe anybody knowsi f any older form of this kind of business data that was in some kind of machine-readable format? I'm really sorry for making my 1st post back an off-topic one, but I've contacted everyone that publishes yellow page books without success, or, appearant knowledge of well, anything, when I've gotten a reply at all, and this was the best lead I could think of. Thanks so much, Tim

20 years

Multitech Microprofessor available

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Folks, Had a mail from someone who has a complete working MPF1 for sale. He doesn't mind where it's shipped as long as you pay the shipping, and its power supply is 110V. Contact him at edvardsens at yahoo.co.uk Ta. -- adrian/witchy Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UKs biggest home computer collection?

20 years

BBC Computer Literacy Project

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Just been contacted by a chap who's doing a paper on the Acorn BBC micro and the BBC Computer Literacy Project of the early 80's. He's mainly interested in the politics of the whole thing though, rather than the technical side - and as he points out this isn't really well documentated anywhere as the enthusiast websites typically focus on the hardware / software. In the few cases where there are 'stories' on the 'net they seem to be just that, without any supporting original documentation or being fist-hand from BBC / Acorn employees of the time. Thought I'd ask here on the offchance there are any people lurking who were involved in the project or who have documentation from the time covering the chain of events that led to the BBC Micro... cheers Jules

20 years

My classiccmp non-retirement :-)

by aek＠bitsavers.org

True. But other computer makers of even lower stature have shown up on the CC list, and in bitsavers. Apart from the big ones, it seems to be just a random process that determines which machines appear and which ones do not. For example, I can't think of any other reason why Varian would show up in Al's archive and Philips would not... -- Varian was actually in the top 10 of minicomputer makers for a short time in the early 70s. I have almost nothing on non-US computer systems. Those sorts of things never show up here. I've picked up a few things on Ferranti though auctions. It IS a 'random' process of what software and documentation can still be found. I also wanted to mention since people have been offering newer manuals lately that I've been limiting what I've been putting up to pre-IBMPC era (early 80's) and mostly non-consumer computer documentation. There seems to be decent coverage of the consumer stuff elsewhere, and the workstation war era stuff is a bit too new.

20 years

No body wants this vaxstation 3100 M76 in M38 case?(ebay)

by vax9000＠gmail.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1479&item=5782002532 a M76 with M38 case.

20 years

Slightly (ok, maybe more than slightly) OT: Old Yellow Book CDs

by hotzet＠uchicago.edu

Hi, My name's Tim Hotze, some really long term members with archives that go way back may find that I used to be semi-active here years ago. Now I'm working with a cultural policy group at the University of Chicago, and I'm part of a project that is using (amongst other sources) Yellow Book data. Whic his great for this year. And even great for last yeah, when we have data. Its not great for 1996, or 1992, or any other year - we can't find electronic data from previous years; websites are updated continually. Libraries that I've searched have this years, maybe last years, but don't keep any older data available. So here's where I think you guys may be able to help.... as I recall >from my days of hunting garage sales, there's a lot of chaff with the wheat. I also remember there being published Yellow Book or business listing CDs in the 1990's - especially before the dot-com era. I wanted to know if anybody can remember these, if anybody has seen them around lying with 486s that you don't want to find when you're really looking for an IMSAI or Apple II, and, while I'm at it, if maybe anybody knowsi f any older form of this kind of business data that was in some kind of machine-readable format? I'm really sorry for making my 1st post back an off-topic one, but I've contacted everyone that publishes yellow page books without success, or, appearant knowledge of well, anything, when I've gotten a reply at all, and this was the best lead I could think of. Thanks so much, Tim

20 years

New Scientist article on retro computing

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

He has been talking with Al Gore again. ;) Dwight >From: "J.C. Wren" <jcwren at jcwren.com> > >How could that be? From the headline: "10:30 19 June 2005" > > --jc > >'Computer Collector Newsletter' wrote: > >>I guess you didn't notice that I posted the same link on Thursday. :) >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] >>On Behalf Of J.C. Wren >>Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:47 AM >>To: cctalk at classiccmp.org >>Subject: New Scientist article on retro computing >> >><URL: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7536 > >> >> >> >> >

20 years

BBN TC2000 rescued (was: May need help with rescue in RI)

by aek＠bitsavers.org

Great news, Tom!

20 years

VTSERVER booting

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: VTSERVER booting > From: "Fred N. van Kempen" <waltje at pdp11.nl> > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:52:22 +0200 (MEST) > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >Allison: > >Tried to reply off-list, but got this: > > (reason: 550 You are not permitted to send mail. Please visit >http://www.verizon.net/whitelist to request removal.) > >and I sure as hell will not fill out Verizon forms just to be able >to send one of their customers email... > >--f Fred. I have no clue as to what is going on. Mail here works fine and there is no blacklist setup I'm using or have invoked. The only thing I could guess at is your domain is a known spam address or has been associated somehow with one. FYI: the address is a j p 166 @ v e r i z o n . net remove spaces. Allison

20 years

VTSERVER booting

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: VTSERVER booting > From: "Fred N. van Kempen" <waltje at pdp11.nl> > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:45:14 +0200 (MEST) > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Allison wrote: > >> >No. 2.11 **only** runs on SPlitID systems. For non-ID systems, >> >use 2.8, 2.9 or (perhaps) 2.10. Ultrix-11 runs on all of these, >> >by the way. AND is fully supported by VTserver, as I maintain >> >both :P >> >> Ok. I only run V2.7 as unix without networking is limited >> usefulness to me. I'd considered 2.11 on the 11/73 but never >> got to it. >V2.7 of what? > >--f The current version I have operational is V2.7 on 11/23 or the 11/73 depending which one is hooked to the RL02. I have one RL02 and two RLV21s. I've considered putting up V2.11 on the 11/73 but haven't as of yet. My PDP-11 collection includes one of every Qbus CPU from LSI-11 to 11/73 in some form of operational backplane. I generally use RT-11 V5.01C though. Allison

20 years

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