On Apr 21 2005, 23:42, Michael Sokolov wrote:
> Kapteyn, Rob <kapteynr at cboe.com> wrote:
>
> > The russian cosmonauts, on the other hand, simply used a pencil :-)
>
> We had those space pens too.
You can still buy them, they're called Fisher Space Pens. I carry one
all the time and can attest that they do indeed write upside-down or
under water, but I've never had the oportunity to try one in zero
gravity. They don't work nearly as well as ordinary pens, though.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
--- "Joe R." <rigdonj at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >- HP 9134A: The unit is appears on the HPIB bus but
> >doesn't identify itself correctly. From the HP64000
> >side I get a 'NO DISC' error when I try to format
> it.
>
> I don't know about the 64000 but the HP9000 200s
> and 300s display a list
> of drives during bootup. Does the 64000 do that and
> does it show the drive?
When you boot the 64000 off the first two diskettes in
the operating system set, it checks the HP-IB for any
devices attached. If there are no devices attached,
you get instructions displayed that state that AMIGO
devices - and it names the 9134A - need to be set as
address 0. With the drive attached at 0 , it reports
the 64000 itself, and an unrecognized device at
address 0.
> On a 200 or 300 if you press any key druing boot it
> will stop the system
> from booting an OS but it will go through the search
> for drives and display
> a list of drives and OSs.
I have a untried 9000/300 unit that I picked up last
year. Perhaps I could try using that to test with.
Will a 9000/300 try to boot without a keyboard
attached ? Of course it would hard to press a key to
stop the boot sequence without having a keyboard
attached <g>.
> Is this one of the old wide biege units or one of
> the newer square white
> ones? >
It's the big beige unit. There's no fault light on it,
just the power light and the disk activity light.
Just to see what would happen, I hooked it up to an
HP-1631 and went through the Storage menu to see what
it detected on the bus. I can see the activity light
coming on when the 1631 tries to access the unit.
> I have a couple of those cards and I'm pretty
> sure that I have the
> manual and software SOMEWHERE but I have no idea if
> I can find it. If you
> ind them from another source, let me know.
The Zia Tech unit is less of a card and more of a
programmer's panel sort of device. It has a couple of
rows of switches and lights that correspond to the
data lines and some of the HP-IB commands. It doesn't
seem to have any address setting capability on the
outside of the box. Maybe there's a DIP switch inside
or something. Looks fun though.
Regards,
Dave
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Philip Pemberton <philpem at dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> Speaking of which...
> <http://microscopy.fsu.edu/creatures/pages/russians.html>
>
> "VAX: When you care enough to steal the very best" :)
I have finally looked at that page with a graphical browser (no, not my
own of course, at a puter lab in school) and it's invalid Russian, obviously
written by someone who did not know the language and was merely "translating"
>from English by looking up English words in a dictionary, without any clue
as to choosing the correct meaning out of the many possible, and then
stringing those word "translations" together as they go in English without
regard for Russian grammar rules. And one of the Russian words used there
is not a valid Russian word at all.
MS
>From: msokolov at ivan.harhan.org
>
>Philip Pemberton <philpem at dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>> Speaking of which...
>> <http://microscopy.fsu.edu/creatures/pages/russians.html>
>>
>> "VAX: When you care enough to steal the very best" :)
>
>I have finally looked at that page with a graphical browser (no, not my
>own of course, at a puter lab in school) and it's invalid Russian, obviously
>written by someone who did not know the language and was merely "translating"
>from English by looking up English words in a dictionary, without any clue
>as to choosing the correct meaning out of the many possible, and then
>stringing those word "translations" together as they go in English without
>regard for Russian grammar rules. And one of the Russian words used there
>is not a valid Russian word at all.
>
>MS
>
Hi
It should be fun running it back through a translator
to English.
I often look at Italian post on Olivetti M20's. The Italian
word for "files" ( used many times in most post ) gets translated
to "rows". It took me a long time to figure out how this
resulted. Then I realized, it is confused with how solders
are positioned on a parade field ( rank and file ) with what
we refer to as a file.
Dwight
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 14:37 -0700, vrs wrote:
> I suppose a list of what fiche are there would be an interesting starting
> point for eliminating duplicated effort and possibly for prioritizing the
> work.
Good plan. I'll try and remember to bring all of ours home with me at
the weekend, then I can at least make some sort of list.
On Apr 21 2005, 10:43, Jim Leonard wrote:
So what *is* enough? The last microfiche I read at my local library
was 12
> pages by 16 pages on a 4"x6" film, so we have roughly (12/4)*(16/6)=8
pages per
> inch of film. 150 DPI is the absolute bare minimum for a readable
page, so a
> scanner would need a minimum resolution of (150*8)=1200 DPI just to
get
> something discernable.
Um, your maths is off. Assuming 150 dpi is the minimum acceptable for
well-printed text (and some DEC fiche is anything but), and a page is
8" wide, you need 1200 dots per page width. A page width on the fiche
you describe is 6/16 inches, so you need 16/6 * 1200 dots per inch,
which is 3192 dpi.
Another way to look at it is if an 8"-wide page is 6/16" or 3/8" on the
fiche, it's .04687 of original size, or about 21 times reduced. So 150
dpi becomes 3200 dpi. The equivalent resolution to get 600 dpi on the
original page would be 12800 dpi.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hi folks,
I have recently won an auction for a Honeywell Series 16 (DDP516, H316
etc.) BASIC interpreter manual.
Does anyone have this Honeywell BASIC paper tape or a copy of it? BASIC
would be a great interactive toy for the Honeywell.
And of course I am always looking for Series 16 software - everything.
All the original software I have for the machine can be downloaded at my
H316 website http://h316.hachti.de.
Best regards,
Philipp :-)
>From: "Randy McLaughlin" <cctalk at randy482.com>
>
>From: "Heinz Wolter" <h.wolter at sympatico.ca>
>Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:09 PM
>> wasn't there some urban-tech legend about the Americans getting
>> hold of a Cuban MIG fighter and laughing at the low-tech electronics they
>> found?
>> Purportedly - the Russians were using tubes! ..that are claimed to be EMP
>> proof.
>> EMP as in nuke-you-lar bomb (some important guy pronounces it like that!
>> bizzare..)
>>
>> Now, perhaps tubes could be EMP tolerant, but they wouldn't be radiation
>> tolerant,
>> would they? After all, isn't that how Geiger-Muller rad counter tubes
>> work?
>> Any mil-space-design spooks out there worked with rad-hard technology?
>> I've read 4000 cmos is the wrong thing use for your home-made nuke
>> countdown unit,
>> but that RCA1802s fared better in early OSCAR and other satellites...
>>
>> h
><snip>
>
>The Russians were right in keeping tubes well beyond what we did. That's
>how they got to venus!
>
>There are many areas tubes go well beyond what can be done in solid state.
>
>Randy
>www.s100-manuals.com
Hi
There is a process for CMOS call RAD hardening. It is
a process of exposing the CMOS to radiation for a period
of time. It reduces the efficiency of the transistors
but they don't degrade as fast ( comparatively ) once
this is done.
As far as solid state goes, silicon is a limiter. Other
semiconducting materials can work at higher temperatures.
Toyota has worked out a way to produce large quantities
of defect free silicon-carbide. This can be used to make
transistors that can be run at several hundred degrees
C. This is of course interesting to them because they
like to have high power transistors for electric cars.
Another material that hasn't been used to much is
diamond. This is one of the best material to make
transistors from since it has such good thermal properties.
There are still a lot of processing problem to work
out for this to be of much use. They already have the
ability to create diamond films.
Dwight
here we go again...
Late last year, I bought a used Mekel 560 (around a $50,000 unit new)
I have several thousand sheets of DEC fiche to do as well.
Unfortunately, it only handles one sheet at a time, came with no
documentation and
with everything else going on with my life, I've not spent much time
with it since I
bought it.
It is something I need to get set up soon, though, since there is some
material that
I need to get done soon.