test-drb March 2005

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by dundas＠caltech.edu

Joe, I would like that tape if it hasn't already been claimed. Thanks, John > I went scrounging today and found this. I can't use it but it's too good > to waste so I thought I'd see if anyone here could use it. It's on a small > tape spool and is marked "4010A01 Plot 10(R) Terminal Control System Level > 5.01 (C)Copyright Tektronix Inc 1988 Format IBM ASCII 1600 BPI Label: > None Serial No. B074512 Record: 80 Block: 800 Option: 08". > > Joe > > >

19 years, 4 months

Surplus places in/near Vegas...

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Fellow scroungers, I'm going to be in Las Vegas around the latter part of July. I would appreciate knowing about any surplus electronics places that would be worth a look. Thanks much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?"

19 years, 4 months

FS: ThinkPad 700C (SF Bay Area, free to good home)

by patrick＠vintagecomputermarketplace.com

I have an IBM ThinkPad 700C that boots Windows 95 (it actually runs nicely, I dare say better than Win2K3 on my current 1Ghz desktop). The display hinge is broken, so its aesthetics are lacking a bit, but if you've got another 700C that isn't working, this is a good machine for parts. Comes with power adapter, original docs, and battery (unknown condition). I'll ship to you for cost (US only, sorry), or if you're local you can pick up. If there are no takers, I'll be tossing it. Hopefully it finds a good home. It's a nice little machine, just outside my collecting scope. http://www.vintagecomputermarketplace.com/view.cfm?ad=1610 Thanks! Patrick

19 years, 4 months

Build your %$@! computer here.

by cmurray＠eagle.ca

I quite agree. Here in Canada Radio Shack has moved into the mass consumer market leaving the electronic hobbyist to fend for himself. Here in the Toronto area we have access to specialty electronic stores that cater to our needs. Murray Message: 36 Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2005 16:20:06 -0700 From: woodelf <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> Subject: Build your %$@! computer here. To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <422B9026.30003 at jetnet.ab.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >>We sadly live in an era when people are considered 'technical' if they >>can point the right end of a phillips screwdriver at a bunch of clone >>parts and 'build their own' PeeCee. >> >> >> Heck with everything all on one mother board your lucky if you can change the video card. %$!@ old PC , $#!@ new games that want the latest video. >>I remember checking into the homebuild newsgroup, thinking maybe they >>were wirewrapping TTL together or something cool. >> >> My ISP does not seem to suport news groups any more, so I can't say what is being built. How about changing the name to alt.I've.added.lights2my.case. I notice here in Canada Radio shack has got away from selling almost any kind of real electronic componemts but it shure has a lot of small light bulbs and big heavy switches. >>. >> >> >> So were you planning to build a computer? If so what kind? Ben alias woodelf

19 years, 4 months

FREE: Toaster video tapes (copies). WANTED: Commodore PET ROM.

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

>Also, I need ROM 016 for my "chicklet" PET 2001. IIRC the 016 ROM is F000-F7FF. You can get the images of all the PET ROMs from funet. Depending on the board you have and the available replacement devices, you may have to build a little daughter card to adapt the selects - I did this many years ago when a ROM died in one of my 2001's - copied the ROM from the other, and made a board to adapt a standard 2716 - still going strong! Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Collector of vintage computing equipment: http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

19 years, 4 months

FREE: Toaster video tapes (copies). WANTED: Commodore PET ROM.

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

Hi, Something for the Toaster users among us - video tapes: - Studio 16 - LW Essentials - LW #1 2.0 - LW #2 2.0 - Modeler training, Toaster 2.0 - Displacement mapping, bones, morphing - Toaster Surfaces 2.0 They are all copies, but I viewed them, they are good. You can have them for the price of shipping (8 pounds). Also, I need ROM 016 for my "chicklet" PET 2001. Any givers? Steve. __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/

19 years, 4 months

minor list changes

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

der Mouse <mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca> wrote: > The above is a rant. It is only a rant. If this had been a serious > message, the attitude presented would have been drastically different. > This concludes our test of the Rant Line. We now return you to your > regularly scheduled list. Well, it IS a serious matter for ME. If Jay is going to make this list hostile to people who actually run their entire business operations on Classic computers in the Classic manner (and exercise their right to use their own servers and not someone else's for sovereignty reasons), it looks like those of us *TRULY* into Classic computing need to start our own list (hosted on a Classic list server of course). der Mouse, can I count you in? I'm sure I can count on Tony... He is certainly *THE* most intelligent and most worthy person on this list. MS

19 years, 4 months

Free: HP mini cartridges

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

More finds from today's trip. One HP mini-cartridge factory marked "DGL Demo Mini #2 Mini Cart, PE, FMGR 24998-13309 Rev 2040". I don't know what the software if but someone here should know. The other tape appears to be a backup. It was orginaly marked "DB1000 CRTG#5" but that has been marked out and "!BCK03 R2540" has been marked in pen. Joe

19 years, 4 months

Free: Tektronix Plot 10 mag tape

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I went scrounging today and found this. I can't use it but it's too good to waste so I thought I'd see if anyone here could use it. It's on a small tape spool and is marked "4010A01 Plot 10(R) Terminal Control System Level 5.01 (C)Copyright Tektronix Inc 1988 Format IBM ASCII 1600 BPI Label: None Serial No. B074512 Record: 80 Block: 800 Option: 08". Joe

19 years, 4 months

Catweasel opinions, sources of info etc.

by curt＠atarimuseum.com

Jim, I understand where you're coming from, however the way the product was presented, it stated it could read various formats, what wasn't mentioned on the site for the product or during the purchase process is that the "product is capable of reading such formats - if someone actually writes the code" My Atari 800 could run linux - if someone ports it, could run CP/M too if someone wants to write the needed code, could read IBM disks on its disk drives - if someone writes it... All of our equipment can do a lot more then it is normally capable of --- if someone takes the time to write it. So what I'm saying is I bought the product because it stated it could do certain things which I was expecting out of the box when I bought it, just there was no fineprint saying that there were no actual s/w or drives to actually make the card work that way yet. Curt -----Original message----- From: Jim Battle frustum at pacbell.net Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 15:00:33 -0500 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Catweasel opinions, sources of info etc. > Jules Richardson wrote: > > > OK, thinking about getting a catweasel board for the museum. > > > ... > > 2) Opinions of the board would be much appreciated, particularly in the > > context of what it *can't* do, how easy it is to code for, how easy it > > is to get hold of others' code to handle a particular format (rather > > than reinventing the wheel), how well the board copes with media errors > > etc. > > There are now four generations of catweasel cards -- the fourth is just > coming out now. It is an FPGA design where the FPGA gets set up via > software, so the developer can actually fix bugs and add features. The > mailing list was quite busy for a few weeks there but has been strangely > silent for a couple -- maybe I got unsub'd somehow. > > The MK3 and earlier were OK for soft sectored/unsectored disks, but > reading hard sectored disks was significantly harder and writing them > much harder yet. The MK4 supposedly has/will have features to make > reading/writing hard sectored disks reasonable. > > The "3rd party drivers" for TRS-80's that someone else mentioned in this > list was written by our own Tim Mann. > > I think people have the wrong idea about this product. There isn't > corporation behind these cards -- it is a labor of love by one > individual supported by a number of hobbyists. It is a real company > making them, just a tiny one. Yes, you will have to write your own > software if you are expecting to read/write disk formats that aren't > already supported. > > To give you some idea of the ethics of the company/individual (jens), I > bought a MK3 card a bit over a year ago. I wrote software to decode > some PTDOS disks that I have. I fed back some information to Jens about > how the MK3 fell short for reading/writing that particular format. He > had to spin the MK3 design to make the MK4 anyway (one of the key parts > was end-of-lifed), and he is incorporating some of that input into the > design. 9 months goes by. I get an email, apparently sent to a few > dozen people, saying: "What is your home address? I'm going to mail you > an MK4 card." A $100 card for free. > > My only regret is at the moment I don't have the time to work on the MK4 > card, but I will soon. > > One pain about using the card was that I had to use it on an Win98 > machine so I could do simple I/O to the thing. XP doesn't allow it > without drivers. Apparently under linux is isn't so hard. Anyway, this > time around they are working on a driver with a mostly common API > between linux/XP/otherthings so that you don't have to mess with the low > level IO and just program the thing without jumping through hoops. > Supposedly it will also be able to drive MK3 cards. > > There are no hard real time constraints to programming it, making it > very simple. On MK3 boads you manually step it to the track you care > about then you tell the controller to read or write a track. All the > transition information gets captured in a RAM. When it is done you read > out the data or write the next track to the RAM. MK4 adds more logic to > tell apart the index hole from sector holes plus a state machine and > some other control bits to allow reading/writing individual sectors on > hard sectored devices. > > If you expect it to be plug & play for some oddball format, you will be > disappointed. If you don't mind spending a week of evenings writing a > decoder/encoder in software, then it is a great card. > >

19 years, 4 months

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test-drb March 2005