ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
> It would certainly get rid of me, and a fair few others, I suspect.
Me too of course, but see below.
> 2) None of my machines can run a modern web browser.
Same here of course.
> Yes, I'd miss this list, but I think I could live without it...
Don't worry, you'll be the first person I'll invite to mine!
<EXTREME RANT MODE>
Screw the rest of them. Do we really need them, those modern computer
wallopers? A true Classic Computist is one whose Classic Computers are
his newest computers. I judge people by their newest computers. If you
have an XP box and use it, to me you are a worthless XP luser, and I don't
care whether or not you also happen to have a PDP-11 or whatnot in your
basement. It's your newest and most actively used computer that counts
to me. If you have a PDP-11/45 and want me to respect you as a PDP-11/45
user, then make that PDP-11/45 your main and primary computer and throw
that XP box out the window.
</EXTREME RANT MODE>
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Engineer / Researcher / Truth seeker / Freedom fighter
http://ivan.Harhan.ORG/~msokolov/
on 3/7/05 5:29 PM, Adrian Graham at witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk wrote:
> Hi John,
>
>> I now get a message that says
>>
>> waiting to form or join a VAXcluster system
>
> Odd, it should've done that from the word go, but never mind. It should also
> form a cluster on its own but I guess if there's no license for it it might
> not. At the SYSBOOT> prompt just SET VAXCLUSTER 0 and that'll stop the
> clustering in its tracks. For completeness also add SET SHADOW 0 just in
> case there's any volume shadowing active....
>
Mr. West ,
Due to the fact that your "unsubscribe" reminder feature is
inoperative , could you take the time to check into that??
It would be of great help to some of us that are growing
a bit tired of having our mailboxes filled up with unwanted
emails.
davess111 at juno.com
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>>>>> > phrase "Techno-Amish".
>
> I've used it to describe myself a long time ago.
>>>> Just a quick note -- the real Amish are pacifists, and don't believe in
warfare. I am pretty sure they'd be mightily offended by you using their name.
<<
-----
Heck, I'm offended by it, and I'm Jewish!
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Hello,
Having a bit of a problem starting VMS 5.1. It seems that it begins
execution of the startup procedure, but then it hangs. I'm wondering
if there's a way to bypass the startup procedures so I can find out
what's wrong. Here's the messages I get:
KA630-A.V1.3
Performing normal system tests.
7..6..5..4..3..
Tests completed.
Loading system software.
2..1..0..
VAX/VMS Version V5.1 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0
..
$! Copyright (c) 1988 Digital Equipment Corporation. All rights reserved.
The VAX/VMS system is now executing the system startup procedure.
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 7-MAR-2005 08:07:07.89 %%%%%%%%%%%
Logfile has been initialized by operator _OPA0:
Logfile is SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]OPERATOR.LOG;769
%LICENSE-I-LOADED, DEC FORTRAN was successfully loaded with 50 units
And then nothing. Almost looks like a system ready to be logged into,
yet pressing Enter does nothing. I know the terminal emulator works
because I am able to halt the system and type commands successfully
at the >>> prompt.
Thanks in advance!
John
>From: "O. Sharp" <ohh at drizzle.com>
>
>
>Well: I finally took a leap of faith, and bought an ASR-33 from someone
>who wasn't anywhere near Seattle. After a previous (extremely bad)
>Teletype shipping experience (read: TTY dumped in box and packing peanuts
>poured on top; unit largely destroyed in transit; seller refused to
>refund and claimed damage was somehow _my_ fault; story actually got
>worse from there if you can believe that, but maybe that's enough for
>now), it took a leap of faith to try buying another one I couldn't
>personally pick up. But the seller took a _lot_ of extra care packing it,
>including bolting the typing unit to the chassis, and wonder of wonders
>it actually arrived completely intact. :)
>
>But in spite of that it needs some help, so I thought I'd ask a couple of
>questions here.
>
>-The one big problem it has is its lack of a reader power supply. The last
>owner got it from a government surplus program, but they neglected to
>supply anything but the unit itself... and so no reader supply. Does
>somebody have the schematic of one of these so I can build a new one?
>(Better yet: does somebody have a spare one I can talk them out of for a
>reasonable price?)
>
>-I'm looking at some DEC diagrams saying how the ASR-33 gets modified for
>use with a PDP-8 series interface (thanks once more to Mr. Kossow!). It
>says two "6RS205P484 Thyractors DEC #1100106" should be added to the unit.
>Okay, I admit it: I don't even know what the hell a "thyractor" _is_,
>much less what ratings I should be looking for re: these two. Can
>someone shed a little light on this?
>
>-Right now the unit is doing a lot of chattering on both Line and Local
>when powered on. Initially I thought something might be mechanically wrong
>due to being shaken around in shipping, say one of the clutches on the
>main shaft locking into an active position, but so far I haven't found a
>culprit. I'm also wondering if I'm even looking in the right direction
>for the problem, sooo here's the question: could the lack of a power
>supply for the reader be causing this behavior? (The reader itself is
>obviously inert right now, but I'm wondering if there's a missed
>connection or somesuch which could explain it.
Hi
If by the reader, you mean the tape reader? In local mode, it
should lock up if the tape is turned off and the keyboard
is reset ( H connector working ).
I've made a supply from the manual for the tape reader. The
only part that is hard to get is the power resistor. I just
used two in series to get the value. Still, this is not
needed to lock up.
Dwight
>
>...At some point I'll probably ask someone with a copyholder to take some
>tracings and measurements for me so I can fabricate a new one, but maybe
>I'll just see if I can get it working first. :)
>
> -O.-
>
>
Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Presumably such machines boot from hard disk too? (I've never seen any
> flavour of Windows boot from ROM).
Actually HP produced a version of windows 3.1 that was in ROM
They also produced a DOS system that was in ROM and a Unix
system (HP-UX 5.0) that was in ROM (not just the kernel, but
applications like csh and vi were in ROM as well).
Anyway, today you can get systems that boot from CDROM and run
>from a RAMDISK. I have seen Windows 98 (or ME) running in this
mode (really useful when booting off the network) so its not
that hard.
Finally windows CE is designed to be in ROM and you have a number
of implementations that use WinCE for its GUI.
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