test-drb December 2005

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235 participants
580 discussions

by technobug＠comcast.net

On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 00:52:27 +0000, Dan Williams <williams.dan at gmail.com> wrote: > I have a mobile that has a USB charger, but it will not charge unless > the driver is installed. I don't know if the specs of USB mean it > doesn't put voltage on a line unless it's told to. A USB device is initially required to pull no more than one load (100 ma) from the power bus. On initialization, the USB host queries the device to obtain the number of loads it requires (up to 5 - 500 ma) and determines whether it can provide that amount of power to the device. For devices requiring more than one load, the device is not allowed to pull more than the initial load until configured by software. > I keep meaning to > try it on a powered hub. But I don't have one. From the spec: "Hubs that obtain operating power externally (from the USB) must supply five unit loads to each port. Battery powered hubs may supply either one or five unit loads per port." So this should work independent of host initialization (if the hub follows the rules). If the device is a standard device as defined by the specs, the host should initialize power independent of a driver. However, if you are on a M$ box, they don't always follow the rules even though they are a signatory on the spec... CRC

18 years, 11 months

need drivers for old graphics card

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

made by Vermont Microsystems. Takes up 2 card slots, like an IBM PGA card. Has on onboard 80188. Is VM still around? __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

18 years, 11 months

Old MS-DOS & WIN Software

by micheladam＠theedge.ca

Hi. Would you happen to have Turbopower Software stuff? Like ObjectProfesionnal? Also, Microsoft TCP/IP SDK for DOS ? Borland ObjectVision 2.1 ? Faircom CTREE ? Thanks Michel Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: M H Stein <dm561 at torfree.net> Date: Friday, December 2, 2005 2:07 am Subject: Old MS-DOS & WIN Software > I'm getting rid of several large boxes of old MS-DOS & WIN > software, OSs, apps, languages, utilities, games, etc. > > Also boxes of hardware such as PC MoBos, cards, keyboards, > external print buffers, converters, <=9600bd modems etc. > > I realize without a detailed list this is rather vague, but I'd > like > to know if there's any interest in this sort of stuff to make it > worth while actually making that list. > > If not here, maybe someone knows of another list where someone > may be interested? > > TIA, > > mike > >

18 years, 11 months

Old MS-DOS & WIN Software

by micheladam＠theedge.ca

Mike, further to this, my ISP is black listed on spamcop, so please respond to michel at ssimicro dot com Thanks Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: micheladam at theedge.ca Date: Saturday, December 3, 2005 7:44 pm Subject: Re: Old MS-DOS & WIN Software > Will go for the Objectvision. CC'd to the list as your email address > is/was unreacheable from my ISP's server. > > Thanks > > Please send me reply directly to micheladam at theedge dot ca > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: M H Stein <dm561 at torfree.net> > Date: Saturday, December 3, 2005 3:05 am > Subject: Old MS-DOS & WIN Software > > > I just happen to have a sealed NIB ObjectVision 2.1 on a shelf > > beside me, > > although it may be spoken for (and you might have trouble > getting > > the $10 > > rebate :); as to the rest, no idea at this time but not likely. > > > > It'll take me a while to dig through this stuff, so please send > me > > a note off- > > list and I'll let you know when I have a list of what there is, > > condition, and > > what it's worth, if anything. > > > > TIA, > > > > mike (in Toronto) > > > > ------------------Original Message-------------- > > > > Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:09:16 -0700 > > From: micheladam at theedge.ca > > Subject: Re: Old MS-DOS & WIN Software > > > > Hi. > > > > Would you happen to have Turbopower Software stuff? Like > > ObjectProfesionnal? > > Also, Microsoft TCP/IP SDK for DOS ? > > > > Borland ObjectVision 2.1 ? > > > > Faircom CTREE ? > > > > Thanks > > > > Michel Adam > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: M H Stein <dm561 at torfree.net> > > Date: Friday, December 2, 2005 2:07 am > > Subject: Old MS-DOS & WIN Software > > > > > I'm getting rid of several large boxes of old MS-DOS & WIN > > > software, OSs, apps, languages, utilities, games, etc. > > > > > > Also boxes of hardware such as PC MoBos, cards, keyboards, > > > external print buffers, converters, <=9600bd modems etc. > > <snippage> > > > > > >

18 years, 11 months

Old MS-DOS & WIN Software

by micheladam＠theedge.ca

Thirded! Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org> Date: Saturday, December 3, 2005 1:01 pm Subject: Re: Old MS-DOS & WIN Software > Gene Buckle wrote: > > > >> Seconded, I have been looking for Object Professional for a decade! > > > > Which version? > > Preferably the most recent one :-) but I'll take anything. I've > wanted to go > through Kim's code for a while to see how he solved certain > problems. Object > Professional is the only thing that is NOT available for download > on the > sourceforge site; no idea why... > -- > Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) > http://www.oldskool.org/Want to help an ambitious games project? > http://www.mobygames.com/ > Or check out some trippy MindCandy at > http://www.mindcandydvd.com/

18 years, 11 months

Old MS-DOS & WIN Software

by micheladam＠theedge.ca

Will go for the Objectvision. CC'd to the list as your email address is/was unreacheable from my ISP's server. Thanks Please send me reply directly to micheladam at theedge dot ca ----- Original Message ----- From: M H Stein <dm561 at torfree.net> Date: Saturday, December 3, 2005 3:05 am Subject: Old MS-DOS & WIN Software > I just happen to have a sealed NIB ObjectVision 2.1 on a shelf > beside me, > although it may be spoken for (and you might have trouble getting > the $10 > rebate :); as to the rest, no idea at this time but not likely. > > It'll take me a while to dig through this stuff, so please send me > a note off- > list and I'll let you know when I have a list of what there is, > condition, and > what it's worth, if anything. > > TIA, > > mike (in Toronto) > > ------------------Original Message-------------- > > Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:09:16 -0700 > From: micheladam at theedge.ca > Subject: Re: Old MS-DOS & WIN Software > > Hi. > > Would you happen to have Turbopower Software stuff? Like > ObjectProfesionnal? > Also, Microsoft TCP/IP SDK for DOS ? > > Borland ObjectVision 2.1 ? > > Faircom CTREE ? > > Thanks > > Michel Adam > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: M H Stein <dm561 at torfree.net> > Date: Friday, December 2, 2005 2:07 am > Subject: Old MS-DOS & WIN Software > > > I'm getting rid of several large boxes of old MS-DOS & WIN > > software, OSs, apps, languages, utilities, games, etc. > > > > Also boxes of hardware such as PC MoBos, cards, keyboards, > > external print buffers, converters, <=9600bd modems etc. > <snippage> > >

18 years, 11 months

OS/9 and software for the 6809 (was RE: trying to design

by compoobah＠valleyimplants.com

>Does that mean we're likely to see a cool 6809 board from Spare Time >Gizmos sometime soon? Put me on the list for one! > > Maybe, but it sounds like Scott is going to do one too. I don't want to >steal his idea. If you want to, go ahead- mine's going to be something of a junkbox special (if it ever actually materializes in working condition- I've had exactly 1 ElecEng. course.) The Spare Time stuff, on the otherhand, is more than a bit nicer . . .

18 years, 11 months

Mac Mini

by compoobah＠valleyimplants.com

For a SE to run SuperDrives, you need the FDHD ROM upgrade (similarly, for a II you need the Mac II SuperDrive upgrade, which is a set of IIx ROMs). SEs make a nice bridge system, though, set them up with an 800k drive, network, and a version of System 6 and they are good for writing out 400k floppies. System 7 had issues with MFS (400k floppy filesystem).

18 years, 11 months

CUBIX 6809 software - was: first system/6809/OS9

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

I know Allison has mentioned this, but I'd like to provide a bit more detail: In the mid 80's I designed a little 6809 based computer system, including the hardware and all software. The operating system is called CUBIX, and may be of interest to anyone who wants to build up small homebrew computer. Here is some information to consider: - The system is designed to give high functionality with minimal hardware - you can build a completely operational CUBIX system with a fairly small handful of parts. (I have built working CUBIX systems in a single afternoon). - CUBIX is designed to be very portable - it can handle pretty much any I/O devices and disk geometry, and you can even change to new devices or redefine the disk geometry "on the fly". The system is so portable, that many system ports can be done from nothing more than the ROM image (I provide a detailed porting document). - CUBIX itself occupies the better part of an 8K ROM, and provides a nice file system, a command line "shell" (including a good selection of build in commands and "script/batch" files), and over 100 system calls/services. - There are a couple dozen applications and utilities, which include - All the standard file and system maintenance utilities - Several editors, including a fairly decent one which operates line- by line or full-screen visual. (The system includes a TTY specification subsystem which allows you to taylor the screen oriented programs to pretty much any terminal.) - HELP : A vax/vms like help command, which provides interactive documentation to all commands, applications and utlities. - ASM : 6809 assembler, and RAID : a fairly powerful 6809 debugger. - BASIC - FORTH : A very fast FORTH which compiles to directly executable 6809 machine code instead of threaded lists. - MAPL : A little APL system. - SIM80 : An 8080 simulator - allowed me to run most of the code I had written for my Altair on CUBIX (I included on the disk as examples, an 8080 BASIC interpreter, and an 8080 CHESS program) - Lots more... - The system is quite mature/stable - I used it as my main computer for several years, and there has been a small base of other users. (At one time I sold the software as a commercial product). - The system is very well documented. The main documents are: - CUBIX system users guide - CUBIX system programming manual - CUBIX porting guide - Separate documents for all of the major applications. - The distribution "documents" diskette, as a 360k 5.25" disk which contains nothing but documentation, and it is completely full - not a single free sector. - All source code, documentation and bnaries are now freely available. - I have provided schematics for a simple CUBIX system using a serial console, and matching sample drivers. - I have done a PC based simulator for my original D6809 portable computer, which allows you to try the system out by running it (full functionality) on your PC. I also have a command to import/export individual files to/from the simuilator disk images, and you can use my ImageDisk program to transfer disk images back and forth between the simulator image files and physical CUBIX compatible diskettes. - Since I've recently gotten "going" on this system again, I am thinking about writing a CUBIX compatible library for my 6809 C compiler and port it over to CUBIX so that the system will have a resident 'C' development system. If there is interest, I would definately do this. Although it would be considered a "toy system" by modern 32/64 bit standards, a CUBIX system gives you a pretty powerful computer with minimal hardware, and can be a very rewarding small project (as a number of people have told me over the years). It also gives you a very unique system that you won't experience anywhere else. One thing that I have put together for Allison who is building up one of these systems is my "Ultimate 6809 ROM" - I would be happy to make the content available to anyone else who wants to build a system. This is a 27C256 (32K) rom which maps into the 8K CUBIX system address space using two switches to set the 8K bank which will "come up" when the system is reset: Bank 0 contains the CUBIX OS - this would be selected for the normal operatinal mode of the system. Bank 1 contains HDM09 - my Hardware Debug Monitor - this is a very simple monitor which does not require ANY RAM to operate - You can use it to "poke around" the system if only the ROM and console UART are operating (and you can use it's polling accesses to debug the console, so all you really need is the ROM). Since there is lots of extra space in this bank, I have also provided stand-alone/ROM versions of BASIC and FORTH which can be launched from the monitor - these are very handy if you need to write a little program to test your hardware (But they DO require operational RAM :-) Bank 2 contains MON09 - this is my full-featured 6809 debugger, which has full dump/edit memory/registers, disassembly, breakpoints, single-step, NMI "break" of executing programs, and lots of other goodies. It can also download Intel or Motorola format download files so that you can load executable images into the system from a serial device and run them. For the "Ultimate ROM", I have expanded MON09 to include the engine from my SIM80 8080 simulator - this version of the monitor has additional commands to dump/edit the 8080 registers, and to execute/step 8080 code (all the other commands are common) - For those of you who are more familier with 8080/Z80, this lets you test out the system using 8080 binaries - even though it's a 6809 processor! Bank 3 contains a stand-alone/ROM version of the Micro-APL system (I had to put SOMETHING in the last bank!) - Thsi can be handy if you want to write fairly complex test prgorams. I invite/encourage anyone who wants to experiencing building a small/useful computer "from the ground up" to check out the CUBIX system - Most of the material mentioned above can be found on my web site (See URL in sig) - go the the "Dunfield 6809" computer under "Homebuilts". Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Collector of vintage computing equipment: http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

18 years, 11 months

FW: OS/9 and software for the 6809 (was RE: trying to design myfirst micro- looking for "prior art")

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

On Saturday 03 December 2005 13:06, Robert Armstrong wrote: > Thanks, Lyle. Just for my own personal interest I'd love to know. > > But if it's going to become a larger project, then a lot will depend on > the current copyright status of OS/9. Do you know anything about the > current owners? IIRC, OS-9 was developed by Microware and Microware is now owned by RadiSys: http://www.radisys.com/oem_products/microware_OS-9.cfm I'm not sure how they would "view" their old versions for the 680x chips - which appear to be no longer supported... BTW: Note that it's "OS-9" and NOT "OS/9" - I had forgotton that little tidbit. Cheers, Lyle > > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] > On Behalf Of Lyle Bickley > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 12:34 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: OS/9 and software for the 6809 (was RE: trying to design > myfirst micro- looking for "prior art") > > > Bob, > > On Saturday 03 December 2005 10:12, Robert Armstrong wrote: > --snip-- > > > I know there was at one time an OS/9 for the 6809 - does anybody > > know the status of that today? Is there other software for the 6809 > > floating around these days? > > Some years ago, I gave a buddy of mine in the east coast two 6809 systems > running OS/9. I gave him complete sets of the OS/9 operating system, > associated software, manuals, spare parts, etc. > > I've sent him an email - and will let you know if he still has it and if I > can > get copies of the software/manuals made. > > Cheers, > Lyle -- Lyle Bickley Bickley Consulting West Inc. Mountain View, CA http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

18 years, 11 months

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