I would like to repair the last remaining problem with my HP IPC. : the
printer.
Yes, the previous owner did not remove the inkcartridge and the
foil/flatcable connecting printhead to PCB has been etched clean...
Any repair possible ? Any remaining source of the Thinkjet ones ?
I have no trouble extending a Thinkjet foil to fit the IPC, but all
Thinkjets I locate have exactly the same problem...
Jos Dreesen
tony wrote:
To get back to disk imaging, I may be stupid, but I do wonder if it's
actually possible to write such a program to run under linux or any other
multi-tasking system.
It is relatively easy to write a program to dump an image back to a
physical disk. I've done similar things several times for specific disk
formats (in particular TRS-80 M2/M4 and HP LIF). To do the reverse -- to
imagge a disk _once the format is known_ is also easy.
The problem comes with discovering the format. I've read and re-read the
8272 and 765 data sheets. From what I can see the only way to see what
sectors are on the current track is to use the ReadID command. This
returns the ID bytes from the next sector header to pass under the head.
There is no way to automatically dump all the IDs from all the sectors
>from index pulse to the next index pulse (if there is, can somebody
please enlighten me).
--
Look at the readfloppy code in Eric's DMK library
http://dmklib.brouhaha.com/
It is capable of detecting sector length automagicly under Linux.
Just a quick progress indication:
My attempt of looking at the source of "boot" came to a halt at a
point a few word levels down in the code there's a [compile]
directive followed by just fragments of text (the exact line is
"[compile] ot image fai"). The debugger, which I'm learning to use
according to the instructions in the Quick Reference, gets turned
off right there and the usual messages ("Boot device: <foo>" etc.)
start to appear.
I've also read into the "FCode 3.x Reference Manual" (available for
free download from Sun) and found the following (quote):
> OpenBoot performs the following steps during the boot process:
>
> (...)
>
> The bootpath and bootargs properties in the /chosen node of the
> device tree are set with the selected values.
At that point I decided to take a look at that node and its
properties, amongst which I found to be "gateway-ip", "server-ip"
and "client-ip", all initialized to "00 00 00 00". Those are most
probably set according to the results of the rarp request. I can
modify them with
ok " "(<4 bytes adr>)" encode-bytes " <whatever>-ip" property
The "Writing FCode 3.x Programs" manual also has a lot of info
about the netboot procedure (quote):
> TFTP Booting Support Package
> The /obp-tftp package implements the Internet Trivial File
> Transfer Protocol (TFTP) for use in network booting. It is
> typically used by a network device driver for its first stage
> network boot protocol. Again, load is the most important method
> defined by this package.
>
> This package uses the read and write methods of its parent, and
> defines the following methods:
>
> Table 4-5 TFTP Package Methods
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Name Stack diagram Description
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> open (-- flag) Prepares the package for subsequent use,
> returning -1 if the operation succeeds and
> 0 otherwise.
>
> close (--) Frees all resources that were allocated by
> open.
>
> load (adr -- size) Reads the default stand-alone program from
> the default TFTP server, putting the program
> at memory address adr and returning its
> length size.
> For the standard Sun TFTP booting protocol,
> RARP (Reverse Address Resolution Protocol)
> is used to acquire the IP address
> corresponding to the system's MAC address
> (equivalent to its Ethernet address). From
> the IP address, the default file name is
> constructed, of the form <Hex-IP-Address>.
> <architecture> (for example, C0092E49.SUN4C).
> Then obp-tftp tries to TFTP read that file,
> first trying the server that responded to the
> RARP request, and if that fails, then
> broadcasting the TFTP read request.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
Obviously this method is called after I enter "boot net" (manually
invoking it yields the same messages that usually come after "Boot
device: <foo>"), but I'm yet failing to see how control is transferred
between the two (also need to read more about how an instance of this
package is created as a child to le) and in order not to miss steps
which set up critical variables or properties, I need to know what (if
anything) happens after the [compile] directive and before
"/packages/obp-tftp/load" is executed.
The code inside that "load" seems pretty modular after all, with calls
like "do-rarp" and "tftpread", which I'm also going to take a closer look at
over the next few days. At least I hope I'll get to...
Season's greetings to everybody,
--
Arno Kletzander
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Hi all
>Mind you if somebody came up with a better OS when the 386's came out,
>would we have windows today?
It's called "Linux". And yea, we still have Windoze... :-)
W
>
>
>Subject: Re: Old MS-DOS & WIN Software
> From: Roger Merchberger <zmerch at 30below.com>
> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:21:35 -0500
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>
>That would be me. I just can't seem to live without some form of networking
>now - and to me, even my 8-bitters seem a little bit "unlivable" because I
>just can't plug 'em into the network.
Write a stack and go. Seems it's being done even for Trs-80!
>>I was happy for years running DOS with Norton Commander (midnight commander
>>for the linux user).
>
>Never cared for either one of 'em myself... but that's just me. I still
>install it on my linux boxen "just in case" tho.
Beat the tar out of DOSSHELL.
>> What I didn't get with windows (V3.1, W9x) was a real
>>multitasking OS.
>
>What you didn't get with Winders was a real OS. ;-)
I think I did say that. ;)
>And yet, for certain things it was very useful. I bought Winders 3.1 (drove
>200 miles roundtrip for it) for two reasons: True Type Fonts and a better
>driver for my Canon BJ-10ex portable inkjet. The documents I could produce
>were much better than anything I could produce with DOS apps of the time.
3.1 was a nice desktop and the problem was DOS not the desktop
(and it was 16bit).
As to better docs... WordperfectV5/dos was better than any of the MS apps
for that back then.
>If people chose Winders solely because they believed it was the best thing
>available, I'd have no problem with it's current status. It's when it's
>jammed down peoples' throats thru M$ pressuring computer companies to
>bundle it with machines (and sometimes even tied to the hardware warranty
>like on my Fujitsu laptop!) that's most assuredly wrong.
I got into it because tools I wanted to used required it, though they
were no better for it.
As to the MS pushing it down the throat, yes it's was bad, and they
still only got a slap on the wrist.
Is winders useful, yep when it's the only way to get what you need.
But the jury for the last 15 years says, it sucketh greatly for all
thine efforts. Life in a factory town, is windows.
Allison
--- On Thu 12/22, William Donzelli < aw288 at osfn.org > wrote:
From: William Donzelli [mailto: aw288 at osfn.org]
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:16:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: PDP-10s
> cold storage? any chance any of them will "thaw"? :-)While at one point I had three KS10s, I only have one now, and no, it willnot "thaw". Unless one stokes the fire with some big IBM or Univac.
I have always thought I would like to come across a 10 someday. The
one I used at Penn State was a fascinating machine. It was an early
KA-10, and took up most of the room. Maybe someday something will
come my way.
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--- On Thu 12/22, William Donzelli < aw288 at osfn.org > wrote:
From: William Donzelli [mailto: aw288 at osfn.org]
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Cc: cctech at classiccmp.org
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:17:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: PDP-10s
> Is anyone else interested in something like this?Interested, yes. As much as I like BIG drives, I know they are fragilebeasts, and they just do not make 'em anymore.
I have a single RP06 drive here that came with an OEM pdp-11. I have
never gotten the 11 to work. I did get the RP06 to spin up, keeping
the heads from loading. It needs a good cleaning. And it is very very heavy. :) I have an extra pack still in the box for it too.
Don't know if it's any good, but if any one is interested?
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I am trying to restore a CBM D9090 external hard drive. The controller
cards seem OK, but I get a "? bad disk" error when attempting to
initialize (using a B128). If no Tandon 603s is available, does anyone
have experience and success replacing the original stock Tandon 603s drive
with another drive? I have read differing opinions about what drives are
compatible with the D9090. I tried a working ST 412, but I think that this
is too new. Did not work. The drive I believe has to be 7.5 to 10 MB with
even heads.
Bill D
Actually I have found some of the best stuff when I volunteer at the
local computer recycling events in Kansas City. I actually live 25
miles from Kansas City but I go to town occasionally to see the "big
city".
I acquired an HP86B that was dumped at the drop off 3 years ago and a
Victor 1400 calculator with dust cover that was dropped off this year.
We received and loaded 60000 pounds of computers, CRT's, printers and
TV's between 8 AM and 2 PM one Saturday.
Recently I found an Olivetti Programma 101 at the local computer
recycling charity. There is a not-for-profit in Kansas City called the
Surplus Exchange that collects computers from all of the local
businesses and recycles them. $20 and it was mine. That's where I
found the Cromemco Z-2 and dual 8" floppies I have.
The really old stuff normally is sent directly to the recycler since
they can only reuse some of the recent PC stuff. I am kind of the non
PC guy that sorts some stuff.
It's like looking for diamonds "lots of crud to sort through to find a
few jewels."
Mike McFadden