test-drb January 2005

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Troubleshooting an IBM 5155 - (portable personal computer)

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I, too, am interested in the question of how to lube and maintain the floppies. I need to go through a several 5 1/4 in full height floppy drives myself. And the first has IBM on the front also. Thanks for the help, Paxton Astoria, OR

21 years, 1 month

Minc-11 available in Minneapolis

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

If someone is interested in obtaining a minc-11 setup on its stand with a RX02, and including a VT105 terminal, this is available at the University of Minnesota, Minneapolis campus. -Larry LeMay lemay(a)cs.umn.edu

21 years, 1 month

Subject: apple's internet connectivity

by aek＠spies.com

For yucks, I did a google groups search for the earliest news posting I made from apple. My sig had: UUCP: {mtxinu,sun,nsc,voder}!apple!aek ARPA: aek(a)apple.apple.com This was mid-1988, so that was our uucp connectivity at the time. I also noticed that my previous posting about MacTCP and Gopher would have been incorrect, since Gopher servers didn't appear til '91 or so.

21 years, 1 month

Linux and growth of Internet

by classiccmp＠crash.com

Sellam Ismail wrote: > Well, if I'd made such a bold claim ("not possible") I would be > on shaky ground. Okay, I took your original post to mean something more than you had intended. Sorry. I'd be far more interested in getting people's recollections of that period on the record, so to speak, than being "right." It's a big world, other people would have seen/remembered different things out there... Hell, maybe I was stuck in a backwater and missed all the action, who knows? > But was not Linux another major driving influence behind FOSS? As I said, or meant, open source would have changed a lot more than the spread of the Internet in a Linux-less universe. So I don't really disagree with you here. And I think we could have a really long discussion of the rise of FOSS and Linux separately >from email and the Internet. At least that's my opinion, that even with a very different FOSS movement we still would have seen much the same spread of email and the 'Net. I am content to be viewed as an isolated crackpot if need be -- that was in fact a career goal of a friend of mine in college. ;^) >Steven M Jones wrote: >> One is the rise of CompuServe and AOL, which I'll leave for >> another discussion. >> > And which were closed, proprietary online services which > eventually transformed into Internet gateways only after the > Internet had "arrived" at the mainstream. Well, that would be the "other discussion." ;^) But while they were proprietary and so on, they were recognized and acceptable to a very large population. I don't say this to take anything away from the BBSes, which were still cruising along in this period; it would be interesting to see if anyone can dig up some contemporary statistics about users in the two categories. But the point was that since these services were popular, they did introduce a significant user segment to the online world including email, and they did allow email addressed to external users, all of which increased what we'd now call the network effect of Internet and email adoption. > Again, TCP/IP only came to Windows and the Mac because it became > necessary to offer this due to the rising popularity of Internet > access. Maybe yes, maybe no. This is also the era where "open systems" were being deployed on a large scale in the corporate world, and access to these systems via TCP/IP from the desktop was a key requirement. And that trend was independent of whether or not the corporation had external IP network connections, though by this period they were sprouting up all over the place too. In that world in New York and Boston if we had to use a PC, we made sure there was an IP stack and if at all possible X Windows on it. For the home users I was talking about earlier there were packages like Trumpet Winsock and Russ Nelson's Crynwr packet drivers. I seem to recall Mac fans taunting me about how easy MacTCP was to setup, but I'm not clear on the timing for that... All I mean to point out is that there were other strong factors behind TCP/IP coming to the Windows/Mac platform. And while the corporate users would pay, the realities of the academic budget ensured that something cheap/free would be available to meet the same needs. Anyways, I hope that at some point you get a chance to write up what you saw happening around that time with the small ISPs and Linux, and share it with us. That goes for the other list members too; I was hoping for a wider response, and especially views from outside the US. I've been focusing on the 1993-4 period because of the way it set the stage for growth once the Web caught on, but feel free to roll forward or backward too. Then again, maybe this is the wrong forum. I'll let the silence be my guide... --Steve.

21 years, 1 month

The Little Garden / TLGnet Inc.

by aek＠spies.com

Some how, I am missing the context of the "The Little Garden / TLGnet Inc." messages. What the heck is all this about -- "The Little Garden" was one of the earliest ISPs on the mid-peninsula. There were a few others, like meernet, who are still around. I have been told it was named for a the resturant by the same name. Tom could probably give more details. This was around the same time that spies.com moved from Apple to General Magic then later to what became WebTV. Spies was also the home of rotten.com. When what became ebay.com was just starting, he asked Andy to put the auction service on spies. Andy didn't want to, so he used a domain he had for the 'east bay'.

21 years, 1 month

Computer Museum of America closing -- article posted

by news＠computercollector.com

As promised... an article about the museum's status and future is now posted on my homepage, http://news.computercollector.com. The link is below the "About us" heading. ===== Tell your friends about the Computer Collector Newsletter! -- It's free and we'll never send spam or share your email address -- Publishing every Monday(-ish), ask about writing for us -- Mainframes to videogames, hardware and software, we cover it all -- W: http://news.computercollector.com E: news(a)computercollector.com -- 647 readers and counting!

21 years, 1 month

FW: [Fwd: Old Teletype Paper]

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 14 2005, 16:03, Tom Jennings wrote: > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Tom Jennings wrote: > > >> Your guys took good care of me last time...again, I'm in need > >> of yellow-ish, old teletype paper...prefer one box for our boss. > >> Any suggestions? Thanks for your time. > > > > www.wetnc.com > > OH CRAP, it's > > www.WESTNC.com You beat me to it. Trybus and wncsupply also sell 1" tape (now mainly for CNC machines but I think they mostly do mylar or laminated tape. BTW, you really want oiled tape for a teletype. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 1 month

Heads Up - VAX 750, 785, 8550 etc. plus Kaypros IIs

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Plus two Kaypro IIs in lot 286. Quite the mix of stuff in the lot. It will be a fun auction. Can you give some feedback afterwards how things went for those of us that can't attend?

21 years, 1 month

FW: [Fwd: Old Teletype Paper]

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 14 2005, 15:09, Tom Jennings wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Dresner, Steve (NBC Universal) wrote: > > > Your guys took good care of me last time...again, I'm in need > > of yellow-ish, old teletype paper...prefer one box for our boss. > > Any suggestions? Thanks for your time. > > www.wetnc.com www.westnc.com ^ -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 1 month

FW: [Fwd: Old Teletype Paper]

by steve.dresner＠nbcuni.com

Erik: Your guys took good care of me last time...again, I'm in need of yellow-ish, old teletype paper...prefer one box for our boss. Any suggestions? Thanks for your time. Steve Dresner/Producer "The George Michael SportsMachine" WRC-TV Sports 4001 Nebraska Ave., N.W. Washington, DC 20016 202.885.4127

21 years, 1 month

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