test-drb January 2005

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by aek＠robot.net

> Can anyone offer me any suggestions at all about selecting a microfiche scanner? I will have a reconditioned Mekel available in about two months for around $15k This is a fraction of the new price for these units.

20 years, 5 months

Many things

by RMeenaks＠OLF.COM

Actually its our stupid firewall. It automatically adds that .sig and I cant take it out either..... Ram -----Original Message----- From: John Foust [mailto:jfoust@threedee.com] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 2:19 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Many things At 01:09 PM 1/28/2005, Ram Meenakshisundaram wrote: >Can you please limit the quoting! There really isnt any need to quote >the WHOLE thing.. Wow. Irony abounds. 17 line .sig? :-) - John (c) 2005 OpenLink Financial Copyright in this message and any attachments remains with us. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. If this message is not intended for you it must not be read, copied or used by you or disclosed to anyone else. Please advise the sender immediately if you have received this message in error. Although this message and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Open Link Financial, Inc. for any loss or damage in any way arising from its use.

20 years, 5 months

ClassicCmp Archives

by marvin＠rain.org

Hi Jay, I emailed you a while ago, and never got a response so I am just reposting it here. I've found most of the posts to ClassicCmp going back to when I joined in 1997 a couple of months (I think) after the list was started. If you need them, I can send them to you. There are some holes but not many except for when I lost my email later last year. They run somewhere around 600 MB. Marvin > 5) Many chunks of the archives have been located on the drive. However, I am > sure there are holes of missing posts. This really torques me off. Someone > who did list maintenance before me had moved the defacto copy of the list > archives into a different spot on the server and I didn't realize they were > in an area I routinely mess up and later clean up. It's possible I deleted > them, but in any case I can't find them. Again, many of them have been > located but not all. After I finish the server drive migration, I will be > regenning all the html archives from scratch - going against the original > mbox files. If there's any posts in the archives that you want me to remove > (from time to time someone posts their home address by mistake, etc etc.) > now is the time to let me know and I'll clean the archives. After the > archives are completely reassembled, you can be damn sure I will be copying > them to DVD and sticking a copy in my vault off-site.

20 years, 5 months

Possible List Downtime

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

There is a chance (homelife schedule permitting) that I will be moving the drives from the temp classiccmp server to the new (old) classiccmp server this weekend. If I do get around to it, it would be during the day - slightly more likely sunday than saturday. Then again, I may not get to it at all this weekend. We'll see. Wanted to give a heads up in any case. When I do this, the list will be down for an hour or so if all goes well. If it doesn't go well.... could be much longer :) Bear in mind a few things: 1) There WILL be bumps. There is at least 63 separate software packages that are installed & configured on the server that provides the classiccmp services. You can bet that I (and YOU) will find snags and things will be broken for a bit (days or weeks afterwards, depending on urgency and my ability to fix). Some of the packages have been tested thoroughly, some of them I simply cant really test until they go live. You can expect some problems. 2) When I moved subscriber lists from the old server to the new server a few weeks ago, there is one setting that mailman doesn't migrate with subscriber export/import - the "no mail" flag that many of you use. So if you subscribe to both lists (silly) or have your account temporarily set to "no mail" you'll start getting mail to both until you go back and set your no mail flag. I'm not going through 1000 accounts individually by hand to preserve the nomail flag. 3) Mailman also doesn't transfer passwords it would appear. I will try to remember to force mailman to send out a password reminder after the upgrade, so hopefully you'll get your mailman password sent via email. I may forget to do this, I'm a forgetfull guy. Give me a shout if you get stuck. 4) There are a lot of classic computer related websites that I host on the classiccmp server for people at no charge. It is entirely likely that during this time period of being "half on one server, half on another"... that files & content you put on your website went to the wrong server and you'd notice it after the switch. If so, give me a shout and I'll get the content fixed for you. If the files are on one of the two servers, it's a lot faster for me to copy them than for you to reupload them. The "old" drive will be put up in a different machine on the same network, so I will be able to copy stuff easily that got stranded. Keep your shirt on. See #1 above. 5) Many chunks of the archives have been located on the drive. However, I am sure there are holes of missing posts. This really torques me off. Someone who did list maintenance before me had moved the defacto copy of the list archives into a different spot on the server and I didn't realize they were in an area I routinely mess up and later clean up. It's possible I deleted them, but in any case I can't find them. Again, many of them have been located but not all. After I finish the server drive migration, I will be regenning all the html archives from scratch - going against the original mbox files. If there's any posts in the archives that you want me to remove (from time to time someone posts their home address by mistake, etc etc.) now is the time to let me know and I'll clean the archives. After the archives are completely reassembled, you can be damn sure I will be copying them to DVD and sticking a copy in my vault off-site. 6) The newer version of mailman has a pretty much revamped logic for handling bounces and automatic subscription disables due to bounces. It will be interesting to see how that part works. Regards, Jay West

20 years, 5 months

HP7200A, HP7210A Plotter documentation needed

by wacarder＠usit.net

Does anyone on the list have any documentation on the HP7200A or HP7210A plotter? I am getting an HP7210A plotter today, but I don't have any documentation on it. It looks exactly like the 7200A, but it appears to have a few more knobs or controls on it, based on the photographs I've seen. I'll know more when I actually get my hands on it (tonight). These plotters date from the early 1970s. We had an HP7200A at Wofford College in the 1970s. Ours was mapped to KB7: and we had numerous plotting programs written in BASIC-PLUS under RSTS/E on a PDP-11/40. I have copies of all the programs that we had for interacting with the plotter. I just don't have any info on hooking it up to the computer. I'm planning on interfacing it to my PDP-11/40 via either a 20mA or an EIA DZ11 port. Thanks in advance for any insight or info that anyone can provide. Ashley

20 years, 5 months

Problem 1 has occured ;)

by jwest＠huey.classiccmp.org

Hummm I seem to have misplaced the riser card for the server. Scrounging now...

20 years, 5 months

IBM 029 card punch

by cc＠corti-net.de

Hi, I have here three IBM 029 card punches, two model A and one model C (with interpreter) including documentation. So far so good. I do have an additional 029 (I *think*) without covers which I would like to restore. The problem is that it is "a bit" different from the other three punches and I would like to know what model this is and if anyone has the maintenance manual for it. The mechanical part is almost the same as in the A and C models, but the keyboard has two lights, one at each side. I know that the light on the left side is an indicator for the verifier, but the one on the right side is unknown to me. It is a printing punch and has two program drums each with 12 star wheel contacts (instead of the usual 8 on the front drum). Now comes the electrical part: It is very different from the other three punches. It has more SMS cards (about 12, not including the cable cards) and many more wire relays (no reed relays and no electronic components except for some diodes, resistors and capacitors). But the most interesting feature of this unit is the "I/O" port on the rear left side. Does this ring a bell to anyone? Thanks, Christian

20 years, 5 months

M8300 repair: DEC8235 wanted

by waisun.chia＠hp.com

I recently acquired a M8300 with an IC missing. Upon investigation of the manuals and schematics, I determined it is a DEC8235. Anybody has a/some DEC8235 to spare? Are there any modern equivalents? /wai-sun

20 years, 5 months

My response: [LONGISH] Beware: dealings with Bert Thomas

by David.Kane＠aph.gov.au

> Now that that is done, lets take any further reparte's off-list. > > Regards, > > Jay West I would have to say "handled very stylishly" (clap clap clap clap clap) Davud

20 years, 5 months

My response: [LONGISH] Beware: dealings with Bert Thomas

by bert＠brothom.nl

Hi all, Here's my response: In short: Fred can simply get his stuff if he pays me the money back that I payed for him in advance (and drops his other claims). I never had any other intends. Long story: I indeed wanted to do Fred a favor back and collected the stuff for him. I try to do CS at a local university AND try to run 2 companies and try to keep customers happy and in between try to spend some time playing with my old stuff. Obviously my hobbies have the lowest priority. As I am currently very busy and can only borrow the van from time to time I decided to drop the stuff at home, which is basically halveway between the seller and Freds apartment. I admit that I should have notified Fred that I collected the stuff. Last saterday Fred called me and we had a long en kind conversation. I always enjoyed talking with Fred, as he has a lot to tell. At the end of the conversation Fred started about the stuff I collected and what his plans where for it. I said that I would like to keep some stuff of it, as Freds main reasons for buying the stuff was obtaining the Minc hardware. At least, that is what he told me. Fred reacted very excited that it was HIS stuff. I didn't expect such an excited answer and responded with "hey, I payed for it you know". If it isn't obvious, my only intend saying that was that he can have some respect for me, as I'm not his personell he can yell at. However, that got him totally aggrivated for some reason and he started threading me that he was about to say bad things about me on this list and a lot of other stuff that I had no answer to. I don't like being spoken at in that way, especially not from someone I just did a favor. So if that is what he wants to do, its his decision and he should do so. I see people on this list as very intelligent people and I assume that each of you can decide for yourself what my character is. After this weird end of the conversation on the phone, Fred send me an invoice for EUR 700,- ex VAT for repairing my PDP11 and a letter demanding the stuff. I have no problem giving Fred his stuff, but of course he simply has to pay me the money back that I payed for the stuff in advance. I do not want to pay Fred for the time spent working on my PDP11, as that was a favor for which I intended to return him this other favor. If I had known that in advance, I wouldn't have contacted Fred in the first place. When I look back on it now, I feel that Fred intentionally invited me to repair my computer, only to be able to "demand" a favor in return, as he knew I can borrow my brothers van from time to time. There is nothing wrong with that as far as I am concerned. Fred and I did more favors to each other in the past. However, I don't understand his anger and disrespect. Peace to everyone. Kind regards, Bert

20 years, 5 months

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test-drb January 2005