"Randy McLaughlin" <randy(a)s100-manuals.com> wrote:
> [...] PostScript is useless in this
> case since the documents are stored as graphical images and cannot be used
> on the classic computers.
What????
What makes you think that "classic computers" are character based?
I don't want to start a "my machine supported graphics earlier than
yours", but as a datapoint, I used a PERQ for my undergrad project in
the early 80s. Since this was running Unix V7 (or smth close), I am
sure you can get a postscript viewer running on it (or a tiff viewer
for that matter), while you'd have no chance in hell of getting
Acrobat Reader for it.
Which gives me a nice excuse to repeat my favorite line: I use open
source software not because it is free, but because I get to keep the
code (so I do not depend on the code author to port the software to
newer/different/stranger platforms).
**vp
Sorry that's on books
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keys" <jrkeys(a)concentric.net>
To: "cctalk@classiccmp" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 6:42 PM
Subject: Congress looking at Orphaned Software
> Seen on the m100 list:
>
> The Copyright Office of the Library of Congress, at the request of
> Senators Leahy and Hatch, are requesting comments on the problem of
> Orphaned (Copyrighted) Works.
>
> http://www.copyright.gov/fedreg/2005/70fr3739.html
>
Seen on the m100 list:
The Copyright Office of the Library of Congress, at the request of
Senators Leahy and Hatch, are requesting comments on the problem of
Orphaned (Copyrighted) Works.
http://www.copyright.gov/fedreg/2005/70fr3739.html
der Mouse <mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca> wrote:
> You don't need Acrobat, no matter what a bunch of webpages may claim.
> GhostScript groks PDFs just fine.
>
> Indeed, ghostscript comes with a script that eats PDF and produces PS.
The problem is that PS recreated from PDF can never be as good as the
original PS from which the PDF was made. I'm not saying that PDF should
be banned, making a file format illegal would be just as much against
Cosmic Law as making a weed illegal. What infuriates me is that people
have PS and they ASSUME that I want PDF instead, and they convert their
PS to PDF and send me the PDF and not PS. I want the original PS!
MS
On Jan 28 2005, 10:47, Computer Collector Newsletter wrote:
> >>>> who actually _USE_ our classic computers for our day-to-day work
>
> Do you mean you use a classic computer as your ** primary ** machine,
or just
> that you happen to use it ** once in a while ** for your current
work?
Count me in. The machine I use most at home is the SGI Indy I bought
ten years ago. The machine I use most at work is either one of a pair
of SGI O2s on my desk, bought a few years later. The Indy has been
expanded quite a lot, and now handles various services for family and
friends as well as personal use; I use it because it's "nicer" than the
Pentium which is sitting next to it running XP (which crashed and died
horribly yesterday, for the second time in three months. Not bad for a
machine that gets used a few times a week, and has little more than the
OS+Word+Firefox loaded on it). It's also considerably easier for me to
get/write most of the software I want on a real Unix box than on a
Windows one. Also easier to do proper backups (ie ones that can
actually be used to recover the system or parts thereof).
Of course, the PC at home and a similar one at work get used for Word
documents that some people send me, some web pages that older browsers
on the SGI don't handle well, or that newer browsers on the SGI handle
only slowly, so they're the second-most used machines, I suppose. The
third-most used (discounting other SGIs I have) would probably be my
Acorn Archimedes, vintage 1987, one careful owner from new, and still
with a better GUI than Microsoft's.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Ram Meenakshisundaram <RMeenaks(a)OLF.COM> wrote:
> Friday's are really slow and for a pencil pusher like me, its extremely slow
As I said, I perfectly understand and applaud you using company time for
the list, what I don't understand is why do you use the company mail account
rather than Telnet or SSH from work to your own machine where YOU are the
god/king/czar and mail from there. That's what I did when I worked for
companies. And yes, I excelled at stealing their paid time and giving it to
worthy causes.
MS
Regarding the collection in Monroe:
I am in the Renton area, and I might be able to get up there and pick up
some stuff & ship, especially if someone would be able to explain little
details (esp. customs) & possibly help chip in for gas (snow in the area might
help, so I could get some X-country in, but I'm not expecting that to be provided
by you). I would be interested in a 3/80 and possibly one of the Apples.
Thread 2: A request for Deskpro 386/20e information was posted. I have docs &
disks for a Deskpro 386/25 if they would be helpful (scans & dds delivered
over E-mail). Some of the docs are messed up (I think they talk about ESDI
disks, when the machine has IDE).
Thread 3: CremeVAX is working! a little flakiness still, but it seems to have
been a slightly bent pin on the KA-43 SCSI connector that shorted out only
when the plug was inserted. I'm in the process of grafting on a HD-50 external
SCSI connector based on the pinouts from the DEC68-centronics50 interface cable
that I found online. I'm trying to figure a hack for attaching the disks to
the midplane shelf that doesn't involve drilling mounting holes now (it didn't
come with the bosses that fit in the slots)
I'm working on scans of the XENIX docs- does anyone have tips on how to
format them? my school has an ADF ScanJet (fortunately), but I don't know where to
go from there.
I have some stuff that I'm cleaning out:
A Wyse-150 terminal. The battery died (a lithium coin-type by the looks), but
it still works (hit space to clear the error beeps on powerup, or put in
a new batt.) With AT type keyboard
Microsoft InPort bus mouse with 8-bit ISA controller.
Novell NetWare 2.2 5-user serialized with manuals, works on 286 -> 486
machines, maybe 586.
Compaq ProLiant drive tray (Ultra-Wide SCSI, for SCA 1/3 ht drives)
Sun SPUD-II 1/2 ht drive sled
Okidata Microline 24 pin printhead, carriage, narrow-format gear rack, RS-232
interface & tractor
IBM buttons and dials
IBM RS/6000 7030-3CT parts (most of it, it came with my 370)
Dell Latitude mini-dock
SGI Indigo2 IMPACT R4k/250 32/[drive died]/Solid IMPACT
Sun SPARCstation 5/110 128/2g/TGX with either SunOS 4.1.3_U1 or Solaris 2.6
More will come out later, this is just a start. I'm in Western Washington
(State, USA)
Some of the stuff is give-away, some is trade or $.
If anyone should happen to want to trade anything, I'm interesten in (small)
88k AViiON's, DECs, SGI
(especially a CDC-rebadged Indigo)
or DOMAIN/OS 10.4(.1), DG/UX 88k, olde IRIX (3.3-4.0.5), NeXTStep Intel/Sun
(don't have to be original). Other "interesting" things would be considered.
-Scott Quinn
>> You just ignore the lawyers and go on with life.
>
> No, don't ignore them, shoot them. AK47 does wonders against lawyers. I
have yet to meet a lawyer with any combat skills whatsoever. Lawyers are
> cowards hiding their sorry asses behind pigs (cops). But there are more
of us than there are pigs! If every freedom-loving civilian took a gun and
shot
> the first cop he met, we can get rid of pigs in no time, since there are
so many more of us than there are of them, and take our planet back!
I totally agree!
> No, Ram doing ClassicCmp'ing on company time is not a sin, it's a very
commendable act. Stealing corporate time and giving it to Worthy Causes For
The
> People is noble and valiant.
>
> The problem is why is Ram using the corporate mail account?? Ram, install
4.3BSD-Quasijarus on your VAX (you have a VAX, don't you?), get a 56K leased
> line for it, and E-mail from that!
Friday's are really slow and for a pencil pusher like me, its extremely slow
;-) I reality, I usually send me personal emails (mailing lists, etc) to my
corporate account as it is eaiser to deal with. Not really a sin here as
they are very cool about it. And for reading classiccmp during working
hours, it helps during the extremely LARGE compilation times (close to two
hours) if have. Compiling our application takes a LONG time. Beats
twiddling my thumbs. I don't have a VAX, but I have been meaning to finish
up my standalone transputer workstation one of these days. Has access to
the net, mail, X, and the like (through Helios). One of these days.. :-(
Cheers,
Ram
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Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote:
> If you're limiting yourself to your
> VAXen and the like, the time is going to come when you won't be able to get
> Hard Drives to replace dead ones.
We'll build new ones with Classic interfaces.
(We = Interplanetary Internationale.)
MS
