While watching me struggle with the cards in my OSI C4P, someone at VCF
East (I can't remember who, sorry if it was you) suggested a product (I
can't remember what, I was a bit distracted) that they used to clean and
lubricate contacts. I just did a little googling and there seem to be
two "major" products: Stabilant 22 and DeoxIT. Anyone care to share
their experiences with either of these or make another recommendation?
Thanks,
Bill
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Hey Bill,
That was me - while DeoxIT is great for cleaning contacts, the lube I
told you about is Nygel - check out www.nyelubricants.com - which is
more like the Dow silicone that Dwight mentioned. It's especially good
on the pin-type connectors used for the SS-50/30 buses, OSI, etc. as
well as Heathkit H8 and H89. You could even use DeoxIT first to clean
the contacts. You won't believe the difference after you've applied an
appropriate lube.
best,
Jack
While watching me struggle with the cards in my OSI C4P,
someone at VCF East (I can't remember who, sorry if it
was you) suggested a product (I can't remember what, I
was a bit distracted) that they used to clean and lubricate
contacts. I just did a little googling and there seem to
be two "major" products: Stabilant 22 and DeoxIT. Anyone
care to share their experiences with either of these or make
another recommendation?
Thanks,
Bill
my job takes me a lot of different places. Two years ago, yes, TSA was not as organized or as efficient as today. They are doing a necessary job to keep planes flying and people going where they want to go. Due to the fact that I worked for TSA two years ago, I am very familiar with what they have gone through. Now, all you do is check your bags in and they open them only if their MRI machine spots something with enough mass to potentially be a problem. They don't make you wait in line much longer now than you did before TSA was there. Passenger screening is also very efficient at most large airports anyway. They started with the notes inside when they quit having you stand in front of them while they checked your bags. I haven't been through any in the last year that did it the old way.
As for it being BS, I disagree. I would rather have things safer than welcome another attack on US soil because things weren't being checked.
best regards, Steve Thatcher
-----Original Message-----
From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
Sent: Aug 6, 2004 7:02 PM
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Holy cow...
At 02:14 PM 8/6/04 -0700, you wrote:
>On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Joe R. wrote:
>
>> >You know when your bag was checked because the TSA puts a form in your bag
>> >saying they did.
>>
>> I beg to differ. I sat in Kansas City airport two years ago and spent
>> abut 3 or 4 hours with the security people and watched as they opened
>> numerous bags and I didn't see them put a sticker on ANY of them. Even when
>> flying and reclaiming baggage I've never seen one of those stickers.
>
>Have you flown recently?
No and I have no intentions of flying as long as this crap continues. I
have a very low treshold for BS! So don't expect to see me at VCF or
anywhere else if it involves flying.
Joe
At 02:51 PM 8/7/2004, you wrote:
>der Mouse, you obviously know nothing about what it takes to get a
>concealed weapons permit in the US. I have a concealed weapons permit and
>I also have done practical pistol shooting. I would not want untrained
>individuals putting my life at risk. Having a permit in the US does not
>require training or anything but the money and no criminal record. I did
>my training at different opportunities in my life and without any
>requirement to do so.
South Carolina requires training and has a written test and a shooting test
that people must pass before receiving a concealed weapon permit. Most
other states have training requirements also.
But, none of them are very arduous and yes many states don' t have training
requirements at all as you say.
But it really doesn't seem to matter.
The majority of people in the USA live in areas where good citizens can and
do legally carry concealed firearms,
even in places that serve alcohol.
And innocent people are just *not* being hurt by people with a concealed
weapon permit -- training or no training.
You're more likely to be hurt by a PC or an iPod (woman in Tennessee
killed her boyfriend with an iPod)
http://www.liquidgeneration.com/rumormill/ipod_killing.html
or by a police officer or government storm trooper than a citizen legally
carrying a concealed weapon.
You don't even *need* a permit to have a loaded handgun in your car in
South Carolina, Georgia, Flordia, North Carolina and Virigina.
Yet people aren't having shootouts in parking lots or on the highways.
Just the occasional rapist or carjacker being blown away is all you hear about.
I don't know what training people would think necessary to carry on an
airliner, but I'd be happy with anyone who could shoot a decent score on an
IPSC or IDPA classifier stage.
http://www.ipsc.org/ics/short/CLC-01.jpg
But training or not, Glaser Safety Slugs or not, I'd much rather be on a
flight where people with concealed weapons permits could carry
than one that could be splashed by some highly trained F16 pilot because
some bureaucrat, worried about "training" (read CYA), denied me the means
of effective self defense.
Until they start asking, "Carrying or Non-Carrying?", I'm like Joe, if I
can't drive, I likely won't go.
Ed
At 12:33 PM 8/7/04 -0400, Steve wrote:
>the last thing I would want is some average guy with a concealed weapons
permit having a gun on board... getting a permit is too easy and without
proper training would be more dangerous than safe.
Personally, I'd take my chances with a CWP holder over a hijacker ANYTIME!
Joe
I am considering having an exhibit at the next Vintage Computer Festival (7.0). I was wondering what the security is like for the exhibits. Do you need to packup up each night? I would like to here comment from those who were there (Computer History Museum) last year.
Michael Holley
www.swtpc.com/mholley
as I said, you can intrepret things in any way you choose and you certainly did with no personal knowledge of facts. You took words, created your own meaning of what I was saying just so you can say you are right - amazing.
end of thread...
-----Original Message-----
From: der Mouse <mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca>
Sent: Aug 7, 2004 3:17 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Holy cow...
> der Mouse, you obviously know nothing about what it takes to get a
> concealed weapons permit in the US.
I didn't, no; nor did I need to, since my response was based on your
reaction, and thus your perception, rather than whatever the reality
behind it was.
> I would not want untrained individuals putting my life at risk.
> Having a permit in the US does not require training or anything but
> the money and no criminal record.
Sounds as though I was right, that your issue is with concealed-carry
permits themselves rather than with whether people with them are
allowed to have their weapons with them on aircraft.
Or do you think that a weapon in the hands of an untrained person is
somehow not dangerous anywhere but on an aircraft?
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While cleaning out the workshop, I decided to plug in a few old Apollo
workstations.
I was eventually able to get one machine (DN4500?) to boot into the
Display Manager.
The major trick was, I had to set the calendar date back prior to Y2K,
otherwise the DM
program would crash with an 'unable_to_map' error message.
The Fuji SMD drive on my DN660 spun right up, and the 660 appeared to
boot, but I have
a minor video cable problem that prevented me from seeing the action
(other than on the disk
controller status leds).
Anyone interested in some Apollos?
