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Heinz Wolter <h.wolter(a)sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I wonder if it is possible to load BSD (quasisaurus) on TU58, as I have
> no 9 track take or ethernet on the system.
One TU58 cassette holds 256 KB of data. The root filesystem is about
5 MB, /usr about 21 MB. You do the math. That's just the binaries, more
for source.
MS
You know, I should learn to spell check first...
I'm looking for replacement switches for the Altair front panel switches.
Does anyone have these readily handy??
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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Hello, all:
Does anyone have an equivalient replacement part number for the
Altair front panel switches? I was goung to grab my Digi-Key catalog but I
thought I'd ask here first in case someone has this data handy.
Thanks.
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
> Presumably, therefore, running it from a single R80 disk is not really
> practical either (at least not if you want to have the sources, or at
> least enough to rebuilt the kernel, on the disk).
Actually it'll fit, and you will have room for the kernel source. In
fact you could even load the full userland source, but then you won't
have any room left for actual work, err play.
MS
Heinz Wolter <h.wolter(a)sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 20 tapes?
> not so bad if loading from a pc emulated tu56 ;)
Well, the problem is that there exists no installation procedure for
loading the main system (not even the miniroot, let alone full root or
/usr) from TU58s. The console TU58 is only used for the standalone boot
and copy programs.
To put it another way, 4.3BSD, including Quasijarus, is, has always been
and will always be totally open source, and as with all open source software,
you are free to do all kinds of things with it that are not officially
supported. BUT, you are entirely on your own in doing so.
> what are other options if there is no ethernet?
> slip/ppp? - once a basic system is loaded?
The sl module for SLIP is not compiled into the distributed GENERIC kernel,
so you can only use SLIP after you have successfully installed enough of
the system to compile your own custom kernel. The same will be the case
for PPP in the next release (no PPP support exists in the current QJ0c
release).
Also just as a clarification, Ethernet is not a supported option either
for bootstrapping your first VAX. The next release will allow you to
bootstrap your smaller MicroVAXen over Ethernet *from a larger VAX that
has itself been bootstrapped from magtape*. In any case the first VAX
at your site must always be bootstrapped from magtape. Also Ethernet
bootstrap can only work on MicroVAXen, you can't bootstrap a 730 over
Ethernet even if you had a larger 780 to boot from since 11/7xx and other
machines in the "large VAX" category have no Ethernet boot capabilities.
You really need to invest in a magtape drive. I'm sure you can buy a
magtape drive + UNIBUS controller from a professional DEC dealer like
Continental Computers or Keyways. If you want something smaller than a
reel-to-reel drive, there is TUK50, UNIBUS TK50 controller.
MS
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also
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Thanks
Paxton
Astoria, OR
Brad Parker <brad(a)heeltoe.com> wrote:
> I hacked the netbsd boot program so it will copy via nfs to tape or
> disk.
With 4.3BSD-Quasijarus1 you won't have to resort to using pieces from NetBSD
to do what you've done. It will have a standalone netcopy program that will
be like current copy (which copies the miniroot from magtape to disk as the
first step in full bootstrap) except that it will copy from a TFTP server
instead of magtape. As I wrote in my previous post, it will only be
officially supported for bootstrapping your little MicroVAXen from your
main big VAX which was itself bootstrapped from magtape, but if you want
to step into not-officially-supported land, you'll be able to put netcopy
on a TU58 and thus use it on your 730, and even use a lesser machine (even
a pee sea) instead of a larger VAX for the TFTP server. But to make this
work on a UNIBUS machine with DEUNA/DELUA, you'll have to write the
standalone de driver yourself, I won't write it because UNIBUS VAXen are
not officially netbootable. And you'll have to have access to some other
VAX running UNIX (at least a guest account) to recompile netcopy with your
de driver.
> I ended up booting the miniroot and then using "rcp" to copy the tar files
> which would normally be on the install tape into my disk (I have ra90,
> which are big).
You could have used rsh | tar.
MS
On Dec 6 2004, 10:31, Dwight K. Elvey wrote:
> >From: "Pete Turnbull" <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com>
> ---snip---
> >
> >No, I have a spare, but I would like to fix the bust one. It turns
out
> >that the 2-button version, M-S34, widely used on Compaq PCs and
things,
> >has the same PCB (but missing one microswitch, of course), and I
think
> >I can acquire one of those.
> >
> Hi Pete
> I hope you carefully checked that there wasn't a broken
> wire in the cord. This is the most common cause of
> failure in these units.
Yes, almost the first thing I thought of. I swapped the cords with
another mouse, and the fault stayed with the mouse.
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Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
