test-drb October 2004

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by news＠computercollector.com

Hey folks... this isn't REALLY off-topic because, as everyone knows by now, I only collect calculators that also have PDA functions... i.e. computers. My latest find is a Sharp EL-8160, circa 1978/1979. This isn't the "first" PDA, but it's still a (very) early example. I can make it display letters on the screen, but I can't figure out how to make it save the data. I know the function works because, when it came in the mail and I turned it on, there was some former owner's memo on the screen! Does anyone have, or did anyone once own, a Sharp EL-8160? If so I could use a manual or some help. - Evan (PS -- I sent this message from the wrong email address just now, so please accept my apology if it also appears on this list from evan947@yahoo) ===== Tell your friends about the Computer Collector E-mail Newsletter! -- It's free and we'll never send spam or share your email address -- Publishing every Monday(-ish), ask about writing for us -- Mainframes to videogames, hardware and software, we cover it all Visit the museums directory and read about past events at our web site: http://news.computercollector.com Contact us at news(a)computercollector.com 570 readers and counting!

20 years, 2 months

Vintage calculator question...

by evan947＠yahoo.com

Hey folks... this isn't REALLY off-topic because, as everyone knows by now, I only collect calculators that also have PDA functions... i.e. computers. My latest find is a Sharp EL-8160, circa 1978/1979. This isn't the "first" PDA, but it's still a (very) early example. I can make it display letters on the screen, but I can't figure out how to make it save the data. I know the function works because, when it came in the mail and I turned it on, there was some former owner's memo on the screen! Does anyone have, or did anyone once own, a Sharp EL-8160? If so I could use a manual or some help. - Evan ===== Tell your friends about the Computer Collector E-mail Newsletter! -- It's free and we'll never send spam or share your email address -- Publishing every Monday(-ish), ask about writing for us -- Mainframes to videogames, hardware and software, we cover it all Visit the museums directory and read about past events at our web site: http://news.computercollector.com Contact us at news(a)computercollector.com 570 readers and counting!

20 years, 2 months

classiccmp server hardware

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I said I'd look at what is in there, here's the scoop. Boom 1U case, room for MB, PS, many fans, two HD's, slimline floppy and slimline CD, and a single PCI card ASUS TUSI-M motherboard Intel Celeron 1.2ghz, 256K cache, 100mhz FSB (2) 512mb low profile SDR DIMMS Mitsumi SR243T1 slim cd Citizen OSDA-39D floppy drive (heavily modified with a dremel tool to fit right) 20gb PATA drive for OS 160gb PATA drive for data, list, websites, etc. The motherboard ide controller is ATA100 or 133, I forget which. Before you snivel at the hardware... the classiccmp server doesn't NEED to be extremely fast and seems to do just fine with the horsepower it has. Of course that's because it runs FreeBSD (trolling). The end-goal here is reliability in case of drive failure. I see two options. I could get an additional 160HD, a Promise raid 1 card, and a riser card (think I already have one). Then the OS & data would be on one 160gb drive and we'd mirror to the other 160gb. This is the cheapest option. The other option would be using a motherboard with built-in raid. This would involve replacing the motherboard, the memory, and the cpu. Perhaps the power supply too, which may or may not mean a new case.... I would still need to buy another 160gb drive. Definitely a lot more expensive. Plus since it's an older 1U case, trying to find a motherboard that fit it just right may be troublesome with boards being sent back cause they dont fit, etc. Plus the frustration of trying to make sure the newer/faster processor heatsink and fan would fit into the 1U case, which can sometimes be impossible. In the event that the server runs out of horsepower, if we go the first route, we wouldn't have lost any investment cause we'd still be able to use the two 160gb PATA drives. The only money wasted would be on the promise RAID controller. So, my vote would be to go with another 160gb, riser card, and promise raid 1 card. But I'm open to any and all options. Theres about $200 or so in the kitty right now for the server. I'd love some input, mayber there's options I haven't thought of. Regards, Jay West

20 years, 2 months

[Simh] Request for Reccomendations - Telnet

by cdl＠mpl.ucsd.edu

> From: Ron Hudson <ron.hudson(a)sbcglobal.net> > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:24:39 -0700 > Subject: [Simh] Request for Reccomendations - Telnet > > I need a macintosh telnet (either OS X or OS 9 ) to connect to my > PDP11 simulator. I have tried the simulator that comes with OS X, > and another called iTerm. Both are ok for most stuff but don't work > well for vt50dpy, an RSTS system status monitor. This does work well > on the HP terminal I have (while its emulating a vt100.) Let me suggest C-Kermit < http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ > which is available for OS X. It does an excellent vt100 emulation, and also does telnet and other protocols. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenst(a)ucsd.edu

20 years, 2 months

Further on India shipping (on topic)

by jpl15＠panix.com

In 2000 we bought an SGI Onyx on eBay, for about $2K - from a reseller, checked out, warranted, with doc and OS... all Ok. Had it crated and shipped air-freight. First thing Customs wanted was "Chartered Engineer's Certificate" on the thing, then the original (not copies!) invoices and sales orders for the machine and the various software packages. Now: the US does not have "Chartered Engineers" - this is a European position, and roughly equates with a certified technical appraiser. I managed to get hold of a report from a chartered engineer in Germany (for a piston-ring grinding machine) and doctored it up, then sent it to my freind in the US who is an appraiser... who sent it back. No signatures, nothing really official, but still Customs insisted on it. We told them that the machine was used and had been refurbished, and that finding the original sales invoices was impossible. They then spent a month 'researching' it - and got back to us with the inofrmation that they found that similarly-configured machines had sold new for about $345,000. So they happily informed us that the duties would be 70% of new cost. Ya'll can do the Math.... It took six months of back-and-forth negotiations, recriminations, calling in favors, bribes, etc... the unit was finally valued at $14,000 and they said we could pay 70% of that or they'd seize the machine for non-payment and scrap it, and charge us for the storage and paperwork involved. So we ended up paying $11,800 plus shipping for an already-old Onyx. This goes on every day there - one of the reasons that there is very little electronic 'surplus' or flea-markets - everyone simply fixes and maintains whatever they have for the longest possible time, rather than pay the price on new gear which includes the awful duties. This was originally instituted by the Indian Government in the late 40's - early 50's as a way to stimulate the infrastructure to produce and be competitive, but of course you know who *that* turned out.. Cheers John

20 years, 2 months

Scam? (was: FW: Binary Dinosaurs incoming mail!)

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Adrian Graham" <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org >> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of John Lawson >> Sent: 14 October 2004 19:10 >> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >> Subject: Re: Scam? (was: FW: Binary Dinosaurs incoming mail!) >> >> This floated around the list last year - guy's in India >> and the Customs duties alone will make this impossible, not >> to mention the shipping for an HP 9trk tape drive (what he >> calls a 'spool disk'). A couple of us corresponded with this >> individual... I don't think it's a scam, I do think Rajatji >> is a bit clue-impaired... > >Ah, OK. It may be that he's not clue-impaired but just thinks you lot are >having him on about the shipping costs :) > >cheers > >w > > Hi It is US manufactured. I'm not sure why there are duties on it. Shipping is an issue. Dwight

20 years, 2 months

Scam? (was: FW: Binary Dinosaurs incoming mail!)

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, Got this in my inbox today, is it one of the scams I've seen others here get? If not, all you HP collectors now have this guy's details! cheers :) a ------------------------------------------------------------ Binary Dinosaurs incoming mail from: Rajat Kakkar (rajatkakkar(a)rediffmail.com ) on October 14th, 2004 at 04:05PM (BST). Respected Sir / Madam, I am having a Spool Disk Drive of HP (Model : 7970E) belonging to yesteryears, had been purchased and stored by me for past 6-7 years but, I am not able to store it further, hence, anyone desirous of preserving it for future, please feel free to contact me at your convenience. Specifications of the machine are --- Name : HP 7970E Make : HP (Hewlett Packard) , USA Model : 7970 E Tape Speed : 45 IPS Option : 015/088/151 Further details 230V AC 400V AC Max 48 - 66 Hz 233 Watts Quantity - 1 No. Price - US $ 100 + transportation charges, excise, tax as applicable. My contact details are - Rajat Kakkar, 70 - B, DDA Flats, Gulabi Bagh, Delhi - 110 007, India Ph. : 91-11-23655131 Mobile : 91-011-9868209805 E-mail : rajatkakkar(a)rediffmail.com Waiting for your reply. Thanking You, Regards Rajat Kakkar

20 years, 2 months

Masscomp machines

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Anyone out there got any info on Masscomp machines (or own one)? I found one the other day at BP (in something of a sorry state) but info on the 'net seems pretty scarce. Rumour has it that they ran some flavour of real-time Unix, and that multi-cpu machines were available - that's about all the good ol' Internet has to offer, at least according to Google. This particular one doesn't have a model number on the front, but the sticker on the back implies it's a 'mwb515'. I'm particularly after a keyboard photo right now - I've got the system unit and monitor, but there's no keyboard with it. Hopefully it's either in the 'unknown keyboards' pile or has been accidentally tidied away in a different pile of hardware :-) Hmm, it presumably has a mouse too, which presumably plugs into the keyboard as I didn't see an obvious mouse port on the back of the machine. cheers, Jules

20 years, 2 months

(Fwd) FW: UCSD Pascal Reunion Symposium 10/22

by aek＠spies.com

Sellam, any chance you can get down there to try to talk to the people about archived versions of the UCSD software?

20 years, 2 months

MIT CADR simulation (for the uber nerds..)

by aek＠spies.com

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lispmachines/message/116

20 years, 2 months

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test-drb October 2004